Help choosing

[nV Guardian]

I need help finding a prebuilt pc from about $600-$900 is this one good?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-amd-fx-series-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-white/4513600.p?id=1219756370035&skuId=4513600

It would be nice if the pc had a GTX-960

[RedWulf]

Why pre-built? but at that budget I would look at refurbished

[Vercii]

You could go so much farther with a custom built PC.. 

[don_svetlio]

That is a horrible build through and through

[Herman Mcpootis]

for that price, you can choose this for $740 instead. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8TL2qs

[don_svetlio]

1 hour ago, herman mcpootis said:

for that price, you can choose this for $740 instead. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8TL2qs

Bad PSU

[Herman Mcpootis]

8 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Bad PSU

How is this a bad psu?https://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/EVGA/600B/11.html 

This shows a good result overall, only crossload 1 had failed ripple on the 5v rail.

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-BRONZE-Continuous-Warranty-100-B1-0600-KR/dp/B00EON40CS

4.6 out of 5 stars with 1109 ppl, 78% 5 stars and 11% 4 stars

 

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=351

500w counterpart, got 8.4 score by johnny

So i really don't see how this is bad.

[don_svetlio]

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

How is this a bad psu?https://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/EVGA/600B/11.html 

This shows a good result overall, only crossload 1 had failed ripple on the 5v rail.

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-BRONZE-Continuous-Warranty-100-B1-0600-KR/dp/B00EON40CS

4.6 out of 5 stars with 1109 ppl, 78% 5 stars and 11% 4 stars

 

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=351

500w counterpart, got 8.4 score by johnny

So i really don't see how this is bad.

@STRMfrmXMN will explain why JG's testing is irrelevant

As for Crossload failure - that is a big deal as out of spec voltage can kill components

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

@STRMfrmXMN will explain why JG's testing is irrelevant

As for Crossload failure - that is a big deal as out of spec voltage can kill components

Crossload 1 test is where they loaded the 5v and 3.3v rails to max and leave the 12v alone. What part of the rig looks like it'll do that?

[don_svetlio]

Just now, herman mcpootis said:

Crossload 1 test is where they loaded the 5v and 3.3v rails to max and leave the 12v alone. What part of the rig looks like it'll do that?

It's a low chance but possible - if the OP wants to go for looks with LEDs and other molex devices.

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

It's a low chance but possible - if the OP wants to go for looks with LEDs and other molex devices.

That gpu and cpu will keep the 12v rail up, crossload 1 won't happen unless you're using an old pentium rig. Most likely the psu will stay in 30-80% load- none of which failed ripple.

[don_svetlio]

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

That gpu and cpu will keep the 12v rail up, crossload 1 won't happen unless you're using an old pentium rig. Most likely the psu will stay in 30-80% load- none of which failed ripple.

Actually, in idle - the +12V rail will be under less than 10% load so that's essentially Crossload

[STRMfrmXMN]

1 hour ago, herman mcpootis said:

How is this a bad psu?https://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/EVGA/600B/11.html 

This shows a good result overall, only crossload 1 had failed ripple on the 5v rail.

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-BRONZE-Continuous-Warranty-100-B1-0600-KR/dp/B00EON40CS

4.6 out of 5 stars with 1109 ppl, 78% 5 stars and 11% 4 stars

 

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=351

500w counterpart, got 8.4 score by johnny

So i really don't see how this is bad.

 

1 hour ago, don_svetlio said:

@STRMfrmXMN will explain why JG's testing is irrelevant

As for Crossload failure - that is a big deal as out of spec voltage can kill components

Well his testing is thorough but he does give too much credit to value which is why that EVGA scores about as good as a Corsair RM which is kinda backwards. The RM is pretty good (not the best) but is far better than the 500B. 

 

I'd permit pairing a GTX 960 with a 500B but nothing more heat producing or power hungry than that as, if you're getting a GPU that powerful, you really can afford a better PSU.

[don_svetlio]

2 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

 

Well his testing is thorough but he does give too much credit to value which is why that EVGA scores about as good as a Corsair RM which is kinda backwards. The RM is pretty good (not the best) but is far better than the 500B. 

 

I'd permit pairing a GTX 960 with a 500B but nothing more heat producing or power hungry than that as, if you're getting a GPU that powerful, you really can afford a better PSU.

And in this case the 305W no-name with a 950 and i3?

[STRMfrmXMN]

5 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

And in this case the 305W no-name with a 950 and i3?

Maybe if they had a 750ti or some other GPU that didn't require external power, but for this, just gonna pass on the fire hazards.

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Maybe if they had a 750ti or some other GPU that didn't require external power, but for this, just gonna pass on the fire hazards.

Agreed.

[nV Guardian]

I really can't build one and need a prebuilt

[Allshevski]

14 minutes ago, nV Guardian said:

I really can't build one and need a prebuilt

You can, just ask for parts. @herman mcpootis has done a build for you. Swap the PSU with a better one if you don't like it and everything will be great.