Linux VS windows

[tox]

hello.

in Linux VS Windows

i have 2 questions that i googled so hard but could not come with an answer

 

question 1:

compare and recommend which operating system utilize its memory more efficient when it is on very high load (like server)

like what does it do when its on high load how does it handle it ?

 

question 2

 

compare and recommend which operating system utilize its CPU more efficient when it is on very high load (like server)

like what does it do how does it handle it ?

 

i really hope i get an answer even with a link that can let me read and understand 

thanks in advance 

[Nena Trinity]

Linux is best for most thing except gaming!

[tox]

Just now, Nena360 said:

Linux is best for most thing except gaming!

thanks but that is  not what am looking for

[SpaceNugget]

23 minutes ago, tox said:

thanks but that is  not what am looking for

What you are looking for doesn't meaningfully exist. The os itself will use a very small overall percentage of the available memory, it depends mostly on what you are running on your server. Different implementations of different programs for different operating systems all will use slightly different amounts of ram.

 

Pick your os based on what programs you want to run, if it runs on both use linux to save money.

[Guest]

I'm not sure about the differences in memory management, but I don't think you can get Windows without the GUI, can you, meaning something like Ubuntu server or any distro wihout the GUI will take up less memory by itself.

As far as RAM is concerned another neat thing about Linux is you can always easily add swap(pagefile) space by just creating a specific file and telling it to use it for swap. But having never worked with Windows servers, maybe there's a Windows equivalent to that I'm not aware of.

 

The real advantage of Linux as far as server performance is concerned is KVM/libvirt imo.

[Guest]

And on the cpu performance front, assuming you're using Intel, they have their own performance tuned distro (Clear Linux) now that has all sorts of Intel specific optimizations, like in terms of flags they've given the compiler that should give you the most out of the CPU.

[ben dover kid]

8 minutes ago, Svinsparbriivu said:

I'm not sure about the differences in memory management, but I don't think you can get Windows without the GUI, can you, meaning something like Ubuntu server or any distro wihout the GUI will take up less memory by itself.

As far as RAM is concerned another neat thing about Linux is you can always easily add swap(pagefile) space by just creating a specific file and telling it to use it for swap. But having never worked with Windows servers, maybe there's a Windows equivalent to that I'm not aware of.

 

The real advantage of Linux as far as server performance is concerned is KVM/libvirt imo.

well FYI windows has pagefile too, just make it as large as you want. also, pagefile doesn't replace ram soo... yeah.

[HardwareXploit]

Linux is more efficent with CPU usage yes but im not the smartest on the planet with this but i know thats a fact

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, ben dover kid said:

well FYI windows has pagefile too, just make it as large as you want. also, pagefile doesn't replace ram soo... yeah.

I know it does. That's why I added the 'pagefile' in brackets after 'swap' as that's the Windows term for it while UNIX-like systems call it swap. I don't know if Windows has the ability to on the fly add to it via a file.

And yes, swap doesn't replace RAM, but it helps the system survive when RAM has been exceded, which seems to be a scenario OP was considering.

[tox]

thank you all a lot specially Svinsparbriivu and WaxyMaxy

i got all the info needed to create my answer 

 

now the 2nd question what do u have to say on it i appreciate any input 

 

[ben dover kid]

13 minutes ago, Svinsparbriivu said:

 

And yes, swap doesn't replace RAM, but it helps the system survive when RAM has been exceded, which seems to be a scenario OP was considering.

true, i know that, but i was just pointing out that yes, windows has that aswell, and yes you can easily add more pagefile in like 10 seconds. 

[Guest]

58 minutes ago, tox said:

now the 2nd question what do u have to say on it i appreciate any input 

 

 

It's not like there's an equivalent of drivers for CPUs. Yeah, an OS needs to be written and compiled to support certain features on a CPU, but it's much lower level than what you'd see in a GPU driver.

The thing about running a server at high load is you don't want to be running a server at high load. You want to always have a nice buffer for unexpected spikes. Apart from the general agreement that Windows is less stable than Unix-like operating systems, nothing in the OS is going to save when Apache starts getting more requests than it can handle.

So to not be at high load, you want to be adding more machines - a caching server, a load balancer and a bunch of servers where each service sits on its own machine.

And then your concerns are not how efficient any 1 system is at something, but what's the licensing like, how good are the virtualization solutions, how good are the solutions for managing clusters and how much of your budget you're going to have to spend on software as opposed to the hardware. And in all of those areas, Linux comes out on top.

[tox]

Just now, Svinsparbriivu said:

 

It's not like there's an equivalent of drivers for CPUs. Yeah, an OS needs to be written and compiled to support certain features on a CPU, but it's much lower level than what you'd see in a GPU driver.

The thing about running a server at high load is you don't want to be running a server at high load. You want to always have a nice buffer for unexpected spikes. Apart from the general agreement that Windows is less stable than Unix-like operating systems, nothing in the OS is going to save when Apache starts getting more requests than it can handle.

So to not be at high load, you want to be adding more machines - a caching server, a load balancer and a bunch of servers where each service sits on its own machine.

And then your concerns are not how efficient any 1 system is at something, but what's the licensing like, how good are the virtualization solutions, how good are the solutions for managing clusters and how much of your budget you're going to have to spend on software as opposed to the hardware. And in all of those areas, Linux comes out on top.

thanks a lot for your time and effort 

am very happy i finally got all my questions answered 

now i can go back start writing my essay