I really need help.

[QuantumGQ]

Hello everyone.

 

As you may see I am quite new to the forums but I decided to ask it here because I thought this was the place where I could really be helped.

 

So far i've only had a desktop once back in 2002.

 

The rest of my life i've always had a laptop and never really had money to get a desktop.

 

I finally decided I want to build a gaming PC but I got no clue what a good set-up will be that is also future proof (With this I mean that I can also play the still to be released games like GTA V and etcetra), at the moment I have 500 euros but i'm still getting quite some money from my summer vacation job and i'm currently looking for a new job, I want to spend arround 1500 euros maximum, now there is a catch to the budget though, as I never had a desktop before that means I got no monitor, no keyboard, only a Razer Abyssus (Mouse for who doesn't know it) and the rest I still need to buy.

(Gaming headset too but this can be put on hold for me to buy later).

 

Would anyone be willing to co-operate with me to build a good set-up, I can build it myself but I just got not much of an idea on what parts to buy.

 

Thanks in advance and thank you for your time!

 

Friendly greetings,

 

QuantumGQ

[sabot]

We can definitely help! Any specific parts you really like. What monitor size/res do you want?

[lachyman]

So it is €1500 with pheripherals? That's a nice budget I can surealy make something, what country do you live in and preferably where are you shopping from?

[QuantumGQ]

I live in the Netherlands, I might want to add that I want to use it purely for gaming, I got a laptop for school where I do programming on.

 

I'd like something like a 24 inch monitor and I want to play on 1920 x 1080, I like that resolution.

 

P.S I'm kinda of a Intel / Nvidia fanboy but If anyone can tell me why an AMD part would be better for me I wouldn't mind considering it.

[iAsuno]

we can definitely help you. but when will you have the money? prices may be different and new products may be available by then. like others said, please tell us your location and preferences.

[TheRager]

I live in the Netherlands, I might want to add that I want to use it purely for gaming, I got a laptop for school where I do programming on.

 

I'd like something like a 24 inch monitor and I want to play on 1920 x 1080, I like that resolution.

 

P.S I'm kinda of a Intel / Nvidia fanboy but If anyone can tell me why an AMD part would be better for me I wouldn't mind considering it.

I think u have to quote that guy's message so that he can get a notification. Or else I don't think he'll know that u replied to him.

[iAsuno]

I think u have to quote that guy's message so that he can get a notification. Or else I don't think he'll know that u replied to him.

tip: follow the topic

[QuantumGQ]

I am sorry, i'm still quite new to the forums and most forums don't give you a notification if you quote them, thanks for the tip though.

[Colombini]

Hallo de TheRager kan ik je helpen, woon in Nederland? (Dutch, sorry guys)

[lachyman]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($229.98 @ Outlet PC) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ Outlet PC) 

Motherboard:  MSI Z87-G55 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($147.86 @ Newegg) 

Memory:  Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage:  A-Data Premier Pro SP900 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($99.93 @ Amazon) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($68.06 @ Amazon) 

Video Card:  MSI Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card  ($350.91 @ Newegg) 

Case:  Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Outlet PC) 

Power Supply:  EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Microcenter) 

Monitor:  Asus VN248H 23.8" Monitor  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 

Keyboard:  Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($104.99 @ NCIX US) 

Headphones:  SteelSeries Siberia V2 Headset  ($65.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $1452.65

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-10 08:43 EDT-0400)

 

This will be really powerful, I used PCPartpicker US, the currency converting works as €=$, so the price should be the same in euros.

[iAsuno]

Hallo de TheRager kan ik je helpen, woon in Nederland? (Dutch, sorry guys)

english please. it is in the forum rules.

[TheRager]

Hallo de TheRager kan ik je helpen, woon in Nederland? (Dutch, sorry guys)

Sorry I don't speak Dutch

[Colombini]

Sorry guys try to help the man, no disrespect.

[iAsuno]

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($229.98 @ Outlet PC) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ Outlet PC) 

Motherboard:  MSI Z87-G55 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($147.86 @ Newegg) 

Memory:  Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage:  A-Data Premier Pro SP900 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($99.93 @ Amazon) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($68.06 @ Amazon) 

Video Card:  MSI Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card  ($350.91 @ Newegg) 

Case:  Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Outlet PC) 

Power Supply:  EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Microcenter) 

Monitor:  Asus VN248H 23.8" Monitor  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 

Keyboard:  Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($104.99 @ NCIX US) 

Headphones:  SteelSeries Siberia V2 Headset  ($65.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $1452.65

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-10 08:43 EDT-0400)

 

This will be really powerful, I used PCPartpicker US, the currency converting works as €=$, so the price should be the same in euros.

 

i would get an 840 EVO and a 64mb cache for the HDD. just my thoughts. and maybe a better cooler.

[QuantumGQ]

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($229.98 @ Outlet PC) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ Outlet PC) 

Motherboard:  MSI Z87-G55 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($147.86 @ Newegg) 

Memory:  Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage:  A-Data Premier Pro SP900 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($99.93 @ Amazon) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($68.06 @ Amazon) 

Video Card:  MSI Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card  ($350.91 @ Newegg) 

Case:  Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Outlet PC) 

Power Supply:  EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Microcenter) 

Monitor:  Asus VN248H 23.8" Monitor  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 

Keyboard:  Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($104.99 @ NCIX US) 

Headphones:  SteelSeries Siberia V2 Headset  ($65.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $1452.65

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-10 08:43 EDT-0400)

 

This will be really powerful, I used PCPartpicker US, the currency converting works as €=$, so the price should be the same in euros.

 

 

Will I have any advantage if I take the hashwell processor over the 3570K?

Also is the Kingston Black memory really good? I've mostly been looking at the Corsair Vengeance sticks.

Also the CPU cooler could that be used if I ever wanted to OC or would I need something else for that?

[iAsuno]

Will I have any advantage if I take the hashwell processor over the 3570K?

Also is the Kingston Black memory really good? I've mostly been looking at the Corsair Vengeance sticks.

Also the CPU cooler could that be used if I ever wanted to OC or would I need something else for that?

haswell has more sata ports and generally better boards.

ram is ram but it doesn't hurt getting better ones. 

haswell tends to get hotter and you may really want to get better cooling.

[TheRager]

Will I have any advantage if I take the hashwell processor over the 3570K?

Also is the Kingston Black memory really good? I've mostly been looking at the Corsair Vengeance sticks.

Also the CPU cooler could that be used if I ever wanted to OC or would I need something else for that?

U could go for water cooling though if u want to overclock.

[Colombini]

lachyman shows a nice configration, only i had some bad luck with Corsair keybords (the K90).

I had 3 new keybord replacements with in a year, they all had defective led-lighting.

So i replaced it with a Logitech G710+, works perfect!

Stil have my Corsair M60 mouse, but id had some problems to, loose glidepads, and bad firmware.

With the latest firmware/ software it works fine.

[lachyman]

i would get an 840 EVO and a 64mb cache for the HDD. just my thoughts. and maybe a better cooler.

That SSD is a waste of money and he doesn't need anything extra on the HDD side. The cooler will be perfect after using OC genie, which OCs the CPU to 4ghz. I don't think he will go for manual OC, since he never had a desktop.

[ComputerNoob]

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($229.98 @ Outlet PC) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ Outlet PC) 

Motherboard:  MSI Z87-G55 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($147.86 @ Newegg) 

Memory:  Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage:  A-Data Premier Pro SP900 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($99.93 @ Amazon) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($68.06 @ Amazon) 

Video Card:  MSI Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card  ($350.91 @ Newegg) 

Case:  Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Outlet PC) 

Power Supply:  EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Microcenter) 

Monitor:  Asus VN248H 23.8" Monitor  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 

Keyboard:  Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($104.99 @ NCIX US) 

Headphones:  SteelSeries Siberia V2 Headset  ($65.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $1452.65

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-10 08:43 EDT-0400)

 

This will be really powerful, I used PCPartpicker US, the currency converting works as €=$, so the price should be the same in euros.

 

Looks alright, but there are a few changes that i would make:

1: 750 watt is overkill. A 600watt is more then enough.

2: you can get a 7970 from someone else for like 50 bucks cheaper

3:Just my personal preference, i would go with a samsung ssd, because they make amazing ssds.

[lachyman]

Will I have any advantage if I take the hashwell processor over the 3570K?

Also is the Kingston Black memory really good? I've mostly been looking at the Corsair Vengeance sticks.

Also the CPU cooler could that be used if I ever wanted to OC or would I need something else for that?

Yes, the new micro architecture means you will have better power consumption in idle and all that kind of stuff, but mainly because the Z87 boards are so awesome. The Kingston RAM is awesome. The CPU cooler should handle any sort of overclocks, also you can Auto OC the CPU via OC Genie IV.

[lachyman]

Looks alright, but there are a few changes that i would make:

1: 750 watt is overkill. A 600watt is more then enough.

2: you can get a 7970 from someone else for like 50 bucks cheaper

3:Just my personal preference, i would go with a samsung ssd, because they make amazing ssds.

When I do a build for 1.5k, it is supposed to be expandable, so I chose a PSU that can handle XFire. 2nd hand GPUs are BAD if you mean that, also that model is the best on the market, no stupid Gigabyte with voltage lock or Saphirre's blue PCB, I have a TF III cooler and I can't hear it, that is why I picked it. Also Samsung 840 EVO is overpriced in Europe and basic is worse than the one I picked.

[iAsuno]

That SSD is a waste of money and he doesn't need anything extra on the HDD side. The cooler will be perfect after using OC genie, which OCs the CPU to 4ghz. I don't think he will go for manual OC, since he never had a desktop.

You can't be sure about that. Every processor is different. And lower temps are always better.

[iAsuno]

When I do a build for 1.5k, it is supposed to be expandable, so I chose a PSU that can handle XFire. 2nd hand GPUs are BAD if you mean that, also that model is the best on the market, no stupid Gigabyte with voltage lock or Saphirre's blue PCB, I have a TF III cooler and I can't hear it, that is why I picked it. Also Samsung 840 EVO is overpriced in Europe and basic is worse than the one I picked.

Second hand gpus aren't bad entirely. Depends really.

[QuantumGQ]

A note: I do have a friend which is really into OCing things and etcetra so he did say he wouldn't mind OCing my CPU to 4.2 or 4.4 I don't know which he said anymore, but he told me to get some good cooling.