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shanmu54321

So, I recently setup an old computer like a network based backup storage. The computer(Windows XP) is connected through ethernet to the router. My PC(Windows 10) is also connected through ethernet. Both the XP and Windows 10 machines are visible on both the ends and have no problems connecting to each other. But my dad's laptop(Windows 7) doesn't show up on the other computers. The Windows 7 machine also doesn't show the other computers. I have made sure that all the computers are on the same workgroup, network discovery ON, file and printer sharing ON, turned off password protected sharing. Please help me make the windows 7 machine show up on the other computers and vice versa.

 

Thanks in advance!!

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4 minutes ago, shanmu54321 said:

So, I recently setup an old computer like a network based backup storage. The computer(Windows XP) is connected through ethernet to the router. My PC(Windows 10) is also connected through ethernet. Both the XP and Windows 10 machines are visible on both the ends and have no problems connecting to each other. But my dad's laptop(Windows 7) doesn't show up on the other computers. The Windows 7 machine also doesn't show the other computers. I have made sure that all the computers are on the same workgroup, network discovery ON, file and printer sharing ON, turned off password protected sharing. Please help me make the windows 7 machine show up on the other computers and vice versa.

 

Thanks in advance!!

Is your wireless router configured as a hotspot or does it have firewalling and routing enabled as well? Cause if it does then he will only be able to see devices on the wireless router. (If possible, a network map is always useful here. Even if you just type it out or use paint.) 

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Just now, Brink2Three said:

Is your wireless router configured as a hotspot or does it have firewalling and routing enabled as well? Cause if it does then he will only be able to see devices on the wireless router. (If possible, a network map is always useful here. Even if you just type it out or use paint.) 

Thanks for replying. I will try making one right now. 

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8 minutes ago, Brink2Three said:

Is your wireless router configured as a hotspot or does it have firewalling and routing enabled as well? Cause if it does then he will only be able to see devices on the wireless router. (If possible, a network map is always useful here. Even if you just type it out or use paint.) 

 

 

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Even his laptop doesn't recognize other computers on the network.

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1 minute ago, shanmu54321 said:

 

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Have you tried disabling workgroup altogether? I've had issues with it working when there's a windows XP system involved. 

The other thing you should try is plugging the laptop directly into the router and see if it can detect them then. 

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16 minutes ago, Brink2Three said:

Have you tried disabling workgroup altogether? I've had issues with it working when there's a windows XP system involved. 

The other thing you should try is plugging the laptop directly into the router and see if it can detect them then. 

Yes. Workgroup is disabled in all the computers. What I tried now was:

1. I connected the windows 7 computer through ethernet. It showed up in the XP computer and the Windows 10 Computer just fine. 

2. I then connected the windows 10 computer through wifi. It showed up on the windows 7 computer(connected through ethernet as of now) and the XP computer. But when I tried to access it,i.e, double click on the windows 10 computer it shows an error telling that it cannot connect to the computer.

3. So, there is a problem only with devices that are connected through wifi. 

 

Does that mean that the problem is because of the router?

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3 minutes ago, shanmu54321 said:

Yes. Workgroup is disabled in all the computers. What I tried now was:

1. I connected the windows 7 computer through ethernet. It showed up in the XP computer and the Windows 10 Computer just fine. 

2. I then connected the windows 10 computer through wifi. It showed up on the windows 7 computer(connected through ethernet as of now) and the XP computer. But when I tried to access it,i.e, double click on the windows 10 computer it shows an error telling that it cannot connect to the computer.

3. So, there is a problem only with devices that are connected through wifi. 

 

Does that mean that the problem is because of the router?

So there is a firewalling issue on the router side. The easiest way to solve that would be to disable routing on the D Link. But I am guessing that the Dlink router is the main router of your house... So that's not really an option... 

If you have the Windows 10 PC and the windows 7 laptop on wifi, can they see and access files from each other? 

Also, you will need to allow file sharing on both computers do more then see them (ex: access files).

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3 minutes ago, Brink2Three said:

So there is a firewalling issue on the router side. The easiest way to solve that would be to disable routing on the D Link. But I am guessing that the Dlink router is the main router of your house... So that's not really an option... 

If you have the Windows 10 PC and the windows 7 laptop on wifi, can they see and access files from each other? 

Also, you will need to allow file sharing on both computers do more then see them (ex: access files).

Connected both the windows 10 and windows 7 PCs through wifi. They both connect to each other and have no problems. Now, in both of them, the Xp machine also showed up. But when i tried to access the XP machine, it gave me an error(Both in the windows 10 and 7 machines).

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6 minutes ago, shanmu54321 said:

Connected both the windows 10 and windows 7 PCs through wifi. They both connect to each other and have no problems. Now, in both of them, the Xp machine also showed up. But when i tried to access the XP machine, it gave me an error(Both in the windows 10 and 7 machines).

an unable to connect error? A little more specific if possible please. :) 

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1 minute ago, Brink2Three said:

an unable to connect error? A little more specific if possible please. :) 

 

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This is when I try to connect the XP computer from the Windows 10 one. This also happens when I try from windows 7 to XP. i.e, wifi connected device to ethernet connected device.

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1 minute ago, shanmu54321 said:

 

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Soooo it can't find the backup computer where it thought it was. 

Try going directly to the ip of the XP machine on your computer. (pinging it would tell us if it even has access to communicate with the computer.) 

Look in the network settings of the XP machine to find the IP of it. 

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3 minutes ago, Brink2Three said:

Soooo it can't find the backup computer where it thought it was. 

Try going directly to the ip of the XP machine on your computer. (pinging it would tell us if it even has access to communicate with the computer.) 

Look in the network settings of the XP machine to find the IP of it. 

Ping from windows 10(wifi connected) to XP(ethernet)

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11 minutes ago, shanmu54321 said:

Ping from windows 10(wifi connected) to XP(ethernet)

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So the router is blocking you from connecting to devices on your local network... What is connected to the LAN port on the Dlink router? 

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Just now, Brink2Three said:

So the router is blocking you from connecting to devices on your local network... What is connected to the LAN port on the Dlink router? 

A wifi connected device to wifi connected device is fine. Similarly, an ethernet connected device to an ethernet connected device is also fine. The XP computer is currently connected through ethernet to the d link router.

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16 minutes ago, Brink2Three said:

So the router is blocking you from connecting to devices on your local network... What is connected to the LAN port on the Dlink router? 

OK man.. its 2 AM in my country now. Have to get some sleep. I will create a new post again tomorrow and will tag you in the post. Thanks a lot for your time man. Way to go!!!

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10 hours ago, Brink2Three said:

So the router is blocking you from connecting to devices on your local network... What is connected to the LAN port on the Dlink router? 

I found the solution!!!! I just unchecked the MultiAP Isolation option. Everything just works fine!!! Thanks for your time man!!!

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12 hours ago, shanmu54321 said:

I found the solution!!!! I just unchecked the MultiAP Isolation option. Everything just works fine!!! Thanks for your time man!!!

Glad you solved it!! Happy computing! 

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