5930k $425.00

[TidaLWaveZ]

If anyone is interested hurry! It's on ebay and has 5 minutes left!

[DocSwag]

wowz too bad I don't need one

[TidaLWaveZ]

Just now, DocSwag said:

wowz too bad I don't need one

 

I know! I was thinking about getting it, but I just don't need the extra lanes right now.

[i_build_nanosuits]

17 minutes ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

 

I know! I was thinking about getting it, but I just don't need the extra lanes right now.

nobody does, you can do 3 way SLI at X8/X8/X8 and still have 4 direct lanes to the CPU for a very fast SSD AND you also still have the 8 pcie 2.0 lanes from the X99 chipset...the 5930K should not even exist.

 

Not many people will ever need anything more than the 28 direct lanes of the i7-5820K and the 8 pcie 2.0 lanes from the X99 chipset...i just don't see it.

[TidaLWaveZ]

1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

nobody does you can do 3 way SLI at X8/X8/X8 and still has 4 direct lanes to the CPU for a very fast SSD AND you also still has the 8 pcie 2.0 lanes from the X99 chipset...the 5930K should not even exist.

Of course you don't need the lanes, but if you wan't maximum performance (all PCIe 3.0 devices running at highest mode). 

 

Leaning towards what you said though, I honestly haven't seen anything that shows any significant performance benefits from between 8x and 16x modes.

 

You bring up a great point that I don't have an answer for.

 

Are the extra lanes in the 5930k a completely unnecessary luxury, or is there truly a use for them that we're unaware of?

 

 

 

 

[i_build_nanosuits]

8 minutes ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

Of course you don't need the lanes, but if you wan't maximum performance (all PCIe 3.0 devices running at highest mode). 

 

Leaning towards what you said though, I honestly haven't seen anything that shows any significant performance benefits from between 8x and 16x modes.

 

You bring up a great point that I don't have an answer for.

 

Are the extra lanes in the 5930k a completely unnecessary luxury, or is there truly a use for them that we're unaware of?

 

 

 

 

this is intel trying to segment a market, but the thing is they didnt cut enough of the 5820K for you to even consider the 5930K unless you want to run many pcie SSD in raid array or something like that...or if you're stupid enough to run 4 graphics cards? i don't know man...99.9% of the users out there will be completely fine with the i7-5820K...even if they do 3 way titanX with one intel 750 pcie SSD for example...

 

I think so far most of the 5930K intel has been able to sell were people who had no idea what they were doing...and a very small percentage was bought by people who actually needed the extra pcie lanes.

[TidaLWaveZ]

1 hour ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

this is intel trying to segment a market, but the thing is they didnt cut enough of the 5820K for you to even consider the 5930K unless you want to run many pcie SSD in raid array or something like that...or if you're stupid enough to run 4 graphics cards? i don't know man...99.9% of the users out there will be completely fine with the i7-5820K...even if they do 3 way titanX with one intel 750 pcie SSD for example...

 

I think so far most of the 5930K intel has been able to sell were people who had no idea what they were doing...and a very small percentage was bought by people who actually needed the extra pcie lanes.

I have the 5820k now, and have been watching for low 5930k prices but haven't truly considered grabbing one because everything I've read and heard from others shows that it's pointless.

 

Originally I became interested because I use a Samsung SM951 M.2 drive and have 2x SLi.  After looking at the performance difference between the 16x and 8x modes, I didn't really see a reason to pursue the extra lanes.

 

Is there anything that actually takes advantage of the full 16x mode for a substantial performance increase?

[crashmaker18]

5930K IS worth getting. maybe the performance of the x16 lanes for double GPU's and more don't have much effect on performance right now, but as higher quality graphics cards get released with more data you are gonna start noticing it soon enough. i'd pay a few 1000 bucks on a rig that is future proof for a year or 5 to 10 than to pay 500 dollars every 2 years.

[TidaLWaveZ]

1 hour ago, crashmaker18 said:

5930K IS worth getting. maybe the performance of the x16 lanes for double GPU's and more don't have much effect on performance right now, but as higher quality graphics cards get released with more data you are gonna start noticing it soon enough. i'd pay a few 1000 bucks on a rig that is future proof for a year or 5 to 10 than to pay 500 dollars every 2 years.

 

If you wanna pay $200 extra for 12 extra pcie lanes that you're not going to use be my guest.  I've had my 5820k for almost 2 years and there's still no benefit I would receive from a 5930k. Furthermore there's nothing coming in the foreseeable future that would necessitate the lanes.

 

So no the 5930k is not worth getting, unless you're using 4 way SLi which already makes you comfortable with throwing away your money.

[xentropa]

2 hours ago, crashmaker18 said:

5930K IS worth getting. maybe the performance of the x16 lanes for double GPU's and more don't have much effect on performance right now, but as higher quality graphics cards get released with more data you are gonna start noticing it soon enough. i'd pay a few 1000 bucks on a rig that is future proof for a year or 5 to 10 than to pay 500 dollars every 2 years.

I personally disagree.  A video card that is used efficiently will not heavily depend on high data transfer rates between the CPU/memory and the Video card.  A high end video card will store the majority of the 3d models/ animations (during the game loading screen probably) into its own VRAM and performance (fps) is then dictated by how well the gpu can process these 3d models into within its own memory and output to the monitor.  

 

Then the communication between the CPU/memory and video card is mostly processing the game mechanics (i.e. coordinating the video image output to match the keyboard, mouse inputs or processing artificial intelligence) and acting as a data buffer for the later levels/models animations that will need to be loaded as a game progresses.  All those of which in my opinion wouldn't come anywhere close to saturating 8 pcie lanes.