De-fragging a SSD

[GeorgeKellow]

I know you're not meant to do this but I have to questions

1. What harm does it do?

2. is there an equivalent to de-fragging for an SSD

[W-L]

1 minute ago, GeorgeKellow said:

I know you're not meant to do this but I have to questions

1. What harm does it do?

2. is there an equivalent to de-fragging for an SSD

Never do it to an SSD it basically wears it out and is not needed compared to mechanical drives which see benefit from it by collecting and consolidating data on the platters. 

[don_svetlio]

Just now, W-L said:

Never do it to an SSD it basically wears it out and is not needed compared to mechanical drives which see benefit from it by collecting and consolidating data on the platters. 

Exactly. It writes to it needlessly and thus reduces lifespan.

Btw, congratz on being a mod

[AstroBenny]

You can use the "Trim" function to keep the performance up to scratch.

[GeorgeKellow]

1 minute ago, AstroBenny said:

You can use the "Trim" function to keep the performance up to scratch.

How do I do that? 

[AstroBenny]

Just now, GeorgeKellow said:

How do I do that? 

What OS are you running?

[Samfisher]

7 minutes ago, GeorgeKellow said:

I know you're not meant to do this but I have to questions

1. What harm does it do?

2. is there an equivalent to de-fragging for an SSD

1. SSD's use NAND flash and they have a limit to how much they can write before they wear out.  It's really really high but it reduces it anyway.

2. No cos you defrag on HDD's cos the data is physically on a different location on the magnetic platter and it takes the reading arm time to search and maneuver to where it is.  SSD's are all electronic and thus all data access is near instant.  There are no moving parts that need to spin and search for where files are.  The closest to a defrag would be TRIM.

[TidaLWaveZ]

^ Yeah! Use trim, it removes unnecessary blocks from your SSD. 

[GeorgeKellow]

1 minute ago, AstroBenny said:

What OS are you running?

Windows 10

[ChevbeeHD]

yea dont defrag and ssd bad idea

[W-L]

4 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Exactly. It writes to it needlessly and thus reduces lifespan.
Btw, congratz on being a mod

Thanks  

 

@GeorgeKellow You can find instructions on it here going into CMD and open as administrator and type in  "fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify"  it will let you know if it is enabled. 

 

DisableDeleteNotify = 1 (Windows TRIM commands are disabled)
DisableDeleteNotify = 0 (Windows TRIM commands are enabled)

http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=86403

[AstroBenny]

Windows 10 automatically supports Trim functionality.

Just type in 'Optimise' into the Windows search bar and then select 'Defragement and optimise drives'

Then select your SSD and click optimise. That is Windows' term for Trim.

[vanished]

8 minutes ago, AstroBenny said:

Windows 10 automatically supports Trim functionality.

Just type in 'Optimise' into the Windows search bar and then select 'Defragement and optimise drives'

Then select your SSD and click optimise. That is Windows' term for Trim.

By default this is done on a schedule (as is defragmentation) so most people have actually been TRIM-ing regularly without even realizing it (unless they shut that off)

[zMeul]

don't bother defragmenting the SSD, check if TRIM works and that's about it

 

but, if you experience massive drops in performance, just backup that SSD and perform a secure erase on it

 

and PS: http://www.hanselman.com/blog/TheRealAndCompleteStoryDoesWindowsDefragmentYourSSD.aspx