Networking Help

[RyanMacRocks]

So basically I am helping a friend with his internet at his house and he has a repeater which creates a new WiFi network (so the house has one network for the majority of the house and switches over to the other repeater network when the other signal gets weak.) It says the connection is bridged, but I am not sure that is true. Anyways, how can I get to a web server on the internal network of the repeater from the main WiFi (web server on repeater network is 192.168.5.149 and I need to access it from the other router which is 192.168.1.xxx)

[jakkuh_t]

2 minutes ago, RyanMacRocks said:

So basically I am helping a friend with his internet at his house and he has a repeater which creates a new WiFi network (so the house has one network for the majority of the house and switches over to the other repeater network when the other signal gets weak.) It says the connection is bridged, but I am not sure that is true. Anyways, how can I get to a web server on the internal network of the repeater from the main WiFi (web server on repeater network is 192.168.5.149 and I need to access it from the other router which is 192.168.1.xxx)

Get rid of the repeater and just get a high end router that can actually handle the square-footage.

[RyanMacRocks]

Just now, ChronicGenocide said:

Get rid of the repeater and just get a high end router that can actually handle the square-footage.

Would definitely be a better solution, but I need something more immediate.

[jakkuh_t]

2 minutes ago, RyanMacRocks said:

Would definitely be a better solution, but I need something more immediate.

Seems like someone has had a similar problem here: http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f137/cant-access-wireless-repeater-set-up-admin-page-681196.html

[jpow007]

3 minutes ago, RyanMacRocks said:

Would definitely be a better solution, but I need something more immediate.

a quick fix would be some cat5e cable and run it to the device that needs interent. i think 5e can carry a signal for 50 feet without a drop in performance and cat6 can go 100. its something like that. 

[RyanMacRocks]

Just now, jpow007 said:

a quick fix would be some cat5e cable and run it to the device that needs interent. i think 5e can carry a signal for 50 feet without a drop in performance and cat6 can go 100. its something like that. 

Also would be a good solution, but I need something immediate and running ethernet cable all the way across the floor of his house is not really the most stellar option right now.

[GDRRiley]

Just now, RyanMacRocks said:

Also would be a good solution, but I need something immediate and running ethernet cable all the way across the floor of his house is not really the most stellar option right now.

then run it under his house. 

[jpow007]

http://www.linksys.com/sa/support-article?articleNum=133029

[Donut417]

27 minutes ago, jpow007 said:

a quick fix would be some cat5e cable and run it to the device that needs interent. i think 5e can carry a signal for 50 feet without a drop in performance and cat6 can go 100. its something like that. 

To my understanding Cat5 and Cat6 can go 100 meters, which is 328 Feet before it wont work. I have never head of a loss in performance from long network cables. Cat 5e is rated to 1 Gigabit for 100 meters while Cat 6 is rated for 10 Gigabit for 100 meters. 

[Trikein]

54 minutes ago, RyanMacRocks said:

 Anyways, how can I get to a web server on the internal network of the repeater from the main WiFi (web server on repeater network is 192.168.5.149 and I need to access it from the other router which is 192.168.1.xxx)

Connect to the repeater with laptop. Set your IP to 192.168.5.1 with gateway 192.168.5.149. Then try to bring up Http:\\192.168.5.149 . The Http part is sometimes required to force the browser not to search redirect which can cause a error. If that doesn't work it's possible you might have to factory reset it, but that is not optimal. But why are you trying to access the AP? If you can't access it the regular way, chances are it's bridged.

 

Overall, what are you looking to do? How are you trying to help your friend? Make it faster? What is the problem or issue you are trying to improve? I don't mean to be snarky, I am just trying to get the thread on point. 

[jpow007]

16 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

To my understanding Cat5 and Cat6 can go 100 meters, which is 328 Feet before it wont work. I have never head of a loss in performance from long network cables. Cat 5e is rated to 1 Gigabit for 100 meters while Cat 6 is rated for 10 Gigabit for 100 meters. 

ok cool thanks for the information. I knew there was something with math and a varialbe but all i got was potato lol. so thanks information. 

[Trikein]

1 hour ago, Donut417 said:

 Cat 6 is rated for 10 Gigabit for 100 meters. 

Is all CAT6 10Gigabit? 

[beavo451]

21 minutes ago, Trikein said:

Is all CAT6 10Gigabit? 

Yes. The spec for CAT6 is 10gig at 100meters.

[Donut417]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_over_twisted_pair

 

There is a chart near the bottom that gives the type of cable, speed, and length it can be at. Pretty handy, the last entry in the chart looks interesting. 

[beavo451]

7 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_over_twisted_pair

 

There is a chart near the bottom that gives the type of cable, speed, and length it can be at. Pretty handy, the last entry in the chart looks interesting. 

Can we get Linus to attempt to figure out how to link aggregate 4 10Gbps connections?

[brwainer]

41 minutes ago, beavo451 said:

Can we get Linus to attempt to figure out how to link aggregate 4 10Gbps connections?

Pretty sure for at least one server he's already aggregating two 10Gbps ports, and the same between his switches. Switches with 10Gbps ethernet ports are still rathe expensive, and actually cost wise 40Gbps fiber is almost competitive with any setup where you would aggregate 4x 10Gbps ethernet.

 

edit: 40Gbps fiber is QSFP+, and you can actually use direct attach cables for up to a few meters length so there's no fiber at all

[beavo451]

8 hours ago, brwainer said:

Pretty sure for at least one server he's already aggregating two 10Gbps ports, and the same between his switches. Switches with 10Gbps ethernet ports are still rathe expensive, and actually cost wise 40Gbps fiber is almost competitive with any setup where you would aggregate 4x 10Gbps ethernet.

 

edit: 40Gbps fiber is QSFP+, and you can actually use direct attach cables for up to a few meters length so there's no fiber at all

Taking into account Linus's recent 4 port aggregation video, my comment was more in jest than seriousness...

[Trikein]

10 hours ago, beavo451 said:

Yes. The spec for CAT6 is 10gig at 100meters.

You know I have been networking for a long time, yet I didn't know this. I thought it was up to 10Gb, but not all CAT6. Is there any CAT6 that ISN'T 10Gb rated? 

 

Back on topic, if you are concerned about latency or packet loss, you can always put a switch before and/or after the run. This will help with the signal. 

[beavo451]

5 minutes ago, Trikein said:

Is there any CAT6 that ISN'T 10Gb rated? 

 

No, because if it can't do 10gig at 100 meters, then it is not to Category 6(A) specifications.

 

EDIT TO ADD: Yes you are right. 6A is required for 10gig at 100meters. Sorry for the confusion.

Edited February 4, 2016 by beavo451

[brwainer]

You can't call a cable Cat6 if it can't carry 10Gbps over 55m, and 100m for 6A. There are specifics such as signal loss and crosstalk in the specifications that, if met, assure that 10Gb at a particular length would be possible. However this is all on the honor system, and it has come out recently that most commercially available patch cables do not meet spec.