System Aesthetics over Performance?

[PeggersXtreme]

Hi guys,

 

So I have noticed with a lot of the x99 mother boards the recommended slots for 2-way GPU's is slot 1 and slot 4 which is actually slot 5 on most boards because of M.2 ports being in between slot 1 and 2 i'm sure someone will get what I mean. Anyway I have a EK terminal connector for my GPU blocks and I have also ordered an MSI SLI bridge but now I'm not sure if I should cancel the order as I have realised these require the gpu's to be in slot 1 and slot 4 meaning the gpu's will run in 16x 8x rather than 16x 16x when using a CPU that can run 40 lanes.

 

Is it worth running the second card in 8x for better aesthetics or do you think it would be best to run the card in the recommended slots at 16x 16x from what I have seen FPS impact in gams will be 0-3fps.

 

And suggestions guys. I will attach some pictures below.

[Numbafieve]

i think linus did a test with this same thing.  8x gen 3 should be plenty for a graphics card and those 0-3 fps gains are in specific situations.  I would go with the aesthetics over possibly getting 3 fps more in something that might not actually happen.

[manofsteel]

16x with 8x in sli does not do much diffrence if it was 2x16 lines since second card does not take 100% but rather 75% or so so no big deal and you can run aesthetic .That said the cards have ofc a gap between them so air will get trough and heat wont be transfered from 1 card to another ? if yes you wont have much problem

[PeggersXtreme]

i think linus did a test with this same thing.  8x gen 3 should be plenty for a graphics card and those 0-3 fps gains are in specific situations.  I would go with the aesthetics over possibly getting 3 fps more in something that might not actually happen.

I assume the first card would still run in 16x as opposed to 8x if the second card is 8x

[Numbafieve]

I assume the first card would still run in 16x as opposed to 8x if the second card is 8x

yes

[PeggersXtreme]

16x with 8x in sli does not do much diffrence if it was 2x16 lines since second card does not take 100% but rather 75% or so so no big deal and you can run aesthetic .That said the cards have ofc a gap between them so air will get trough and heat wont be transfered from 1 card to another ? if yes you wont have much problem

The cards don't usually get that hot due to having water blocks on them if I were going air I would probably run them in the recommended slots due to better spacing.

[vanished]

Generally I'd say performance over looks, but since this probably won't impact performance at all anyways... 

[manofsteel]

Hi guys,

 

So I have noticed with a lot of the x99 mother boards the recommended slots for 2-way GPU's is slot 1 and slot 4 which is actually slot 5 on most boards because of M.2 ports being in between slot 1 and 2 i'm sure someone will get what I mean. Anyway I have a EK terminal connector for my GPU blocks and I have also ordered an MSI SLI bridge but now I'm not sure if I should cancel the order as I have realised these require the gpu's to be in slot 1 and slot 4 meaning the gpu's will run in 16x 8x rather than 16x 16x when using a CPU that can run 40 lanes.

 

Is it worth running the second card in 8x for better aesthetics or do you think it would be best to run the card in the recommended slots at 16x 16x from what I have seen FPS impact in gams will be 0-3fps.

 

And suggestions guys. I will attach some pictures below.

follow your topic btw and if you fear that all lanes wont be used dont worry thx to that config you can attach m.2 ssd or if there is a room an pcie one or more hdd/2,5 ssd

[PeggersXtreme]

MSI also claims slight performance gains when using their SLI bridge but I can't see how an SLI bridge would make a lot of difference?

[manofsteel]

The cards don't usually get that hot due to having water blocks on them if I were going air I would probably run them in the recommended slots due to better spacing.

oh then you dont need to worry about extension cards or PCIE based SSD that will use rest of lines that you left . Since you have watercooling the OC must be good so yea you wont even miss that 3 or less fps (if you have 2 Titans in sli with good OC i think you can propably go 4k without any huge issues:P).

[manofsteel]

MSI also claims slight performance gains when using their SLI bridge but I can't see how an SLI bridge would make a lot of difference?

This one i think its either a marketing hatch or the brigde structure gives better data transfer between cards makin input lag less

[PeggersXtreme]

follow your topic btw and if you fear that all lanes wont be used dont worry thx to that config you can attach m.2 ssd or if there is a room an pcie one or more hdd/2,5 ssd

I was running m.2 at full speed when in the recommended config but my motherboard bios chip recently died so I had to return it to amazon for a refund and am deciding between the x99 gaming 7 and x99 gaming 9 however I have also considered maybe changing over to the 6700k and the Z170 gaming m7 instead of my 5960x as I no longer use many multi threaded applications just trying to weigh up the best options.

[Numbafieve]

MSI also claims slight performance gains when using their SLI bridge but I can't see how an SLI bridge would make a lot of difference?

exactly, the only way i could see that happening is they know that it was designed correctly where a cheapo bridge might have a fault

[Numbafieve]

I was running m.2 at full speed when in the recommended config but my motherboard bios chip recently died so I had to return it to amazon for a refund and am deciding between the x99 gaming 7 and x99 gaming 9 however I have also considered maybe changing over to the 6700k and the Z170 gaming m7 instead of my 5960x as I no longer use many multi threaded applications just trying to weigh up the best options.

I wish i just had those kind of chips just laying around but all i have are potato chips and pentium Ds...

[PeggersXtreme]

I wish i just had those kind of chips just laying around but all i have are potato chips and pentium Ds...

I don't own the 6700k yet but was considering selling the 5960x and going in that direction just because I probably wouldn't see any performance drop as I hardly ever render video anymore. Only thing that might change things is DX12 supported games might make use of the extra threads on the 5960x for a nice performance boost but I doubt it.

[manofsteel]

I was running m.2 at full speed when in the recommended config but my motherboard bios chip recently died so I had to return it to amazon for a refund and am deciding between the x99 gaming 7 and x99 gaming 9 however I have also considered maybe changing over to the 6700k and the Z170 gaming m7 instead of my 5960x as I no longer use many multi threaded applications just trying to weigh up the best options.

no just dont. 8 real cores are future proof and in long run they can come in handy (especially if DX12 and Vulcan rumors become truth) i wouldnt change this CPU NEVAH unless its dying

 

edit: plus you get from z170 only like what ? a 300 or 200 Mgz on core where you have only 4 real cores not best trade when consider losing 4 real cores and 4 threads that can run lower but do more. PCIE lines in both are rly enough so no benefits from either side. So another arguments that you should stay on your socket. Only real option to change is new CPU with 10 core and 20 threads but that costs a lot more

[PeggersXtreme]

no just dont. 8 real cores are future proof and in long run they can come in handy (especially if DX12 and Vulcan rumors become truth) i wouldnt change this CPU NEVAH unless its dying

No the CPU is fine just the board died second Xpower board to go bad on me so I am changing over to msi gaming series instead the chip it self overclocks to 4.8ghz stable

[Nowak]

You know, you can have the most beautiful whatever in the world, but what's the point if it's not functional?

[PeggersXtreme]

You know, you can have the most beautiful whatever in the world, but what's the point if it's not functional?

That's a good point but it would be functional just wouldn't be using the recommended config for 2-way gpu's

[manofsteel]

No the CPU is fine just the board died second Xpower board to go bad on me so I am changing over to msi gaming series instead the chip it self overclocks to 4.8ghz stable

cuz MSI boards on this chipset (or overall) arent the best they are good but EVGA or ASUS in some cases are better and funny think is gaming boards are better over normal ones although i find strange that Xpower board fails but you know bad luck and so 

 

 

You know, you can have the most beautiful whatever in the world, but what's the point if it's not functional?

Not functional yet i wouldnt waste such good CPU if its workin and only board is problem that can be sloved to be frankly blunt. IF i had smth like that even not creating a thing i wouldnt think about changing it to weaker option

[PeggersXtreme]

cuz MSI boards on this chipset (or overall) arent the best they are good but EVGA or ASUS in some cases are better and funny think is gaming boards are better over normal ones although i find strange that Xpower board fails but you know bad luck and so 

 

 

Not functional yet i wouldnt waste such good CPU if its workin and only board is problem that can be sloved to be frankly blunt. IF i had smth like that even not creating a thing i wouldnt think about changing it to weaker option

X99 definitely has the better upgrade path with broadwell-e coming soon but I don't think I would bother with that just to gain 5% as intel seem to be doing lately and I'm pretty sure skylake-e will use a new socket. But for now I will just get a new board just got to decide as I want it to match fairly well with my red theme.

[manofsteel]

X99 definitely has the better upgrade path with broadwell-e coming soon but I don't think I would bother with that just to gain 5% as intel seem to be doing lately and I'm pretty sure skylake-e will use a new socket. But for now I will just get a new board just got to decide as I want it to match fairly well with my red theme.

Then sadly MSI gaming is the best option since only thing you could buy apart from it is EVGA MOBO that should have better stability but :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtA4DMvPJf0

here is review by Jay 2 cents who is water cooler like you and he says pros and cons about EVGA mobo (and compares it to MSI I think). worth checkin and i think its second best choice here after msi ...

 

small edit: since you dont render vids you can always start to stream games like dunno witcher 3 or some high end mmos (like  vindictus or tera or soon Blade and Soul since the mmos can be heavy loading on system if the population is good ).

[PeggersXtreme]

Then sadly MSI gaming is the best option since only thing you could buy apart from it is EVGA MOBO that should have better stability but :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtA4DMvPJf0

here is review by Jay 2 cents who is water cooler like you and he says pros and cons about EVGA mobo (and compares it to MSI I think). worth checkin and i think its second best choice here after msi ...

 

small edit: since you dont render vids you can always start to stream games like dunno witcher 3 or some high end mmos (like  vindictus or tera or soon Blade and Soul since the mmos can be heavy loading on system if the population is good ).

The Asus Sabertooth look fairly good mostly grey and black so might go well with red.

[manofsteel]

you mean this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52jPzdjgHu4

[PeggersXtreme]

you mean this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52jPzdjgHu4

Yeah