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so in my house i want 3 seperate routers (maybe even with modems, i don't know i'm a noob ;)) so that when i tinker around with dd-wrt and stuff, the finacial business can keep going as well as the school stuff, i looked at a bridge but i don't know. it's important that the finacial stuff gets as fast as possible internet (130 mbps) so that that runs smoothly with least amount of ping. should i go with a bridge and three routers?

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Ahh what? What are you actually trying to do?

 

Sounds like what you really need is a 4 port internet router and 2 or 3 wireless access points, or a router and a switch plus the APs. Connect all the important stuff you don't want to mess with to the first wireless AP with its own SSID and the rest to your dd-wrt wireless AP/router.

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Ahh what? What are you actually trying to do?

 

Sounds like what you really need is a 4 port internet router and 2 or 3 wireless access points, or a router and a switch plus the APs. Connect all the important stuff you don't want to mess with to the first wireless AP with its own SSID and the rest to your dd-wrt wireless AP/router.

 

 

I don't really understand why you want 3 routers?

 

i need 3 seperate connections on one internet account or what should you call it? service?

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3 desperate connections? Do you mean 3 computers lol?

seperate? yes

 

What are you on about, for different machines or something?

 

i need to run 3 seperate routers so that every one in the house can have a little corner of the net, and if something is wrong with a router(which is mostly caused by me is reason 2 ;p), i can treat it much easier, the wifi in the house will be better, and we might even have better privacy maybe? i don't know the last one for shure tho.

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no they attach router 2 + 3 to router 1, i want router 1, 2, 3 to be hooked up seperatly to one modem, let's see if i can draw a schematic, please wait

Do you want to do this? Modem to 3 routers so everyone at router 1 can't access or see everyone at router 2 and 3 and the same for router 2 and 3.

So it's like 3 completely seperate Networks? I don't know why you want do that?

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Huh a bit like this: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/28530-42-routers-modem

As 3 modems would need 3 ISPs or 3 Internet Plans (Not a thing AFAIK)

 

 

3 desperate connections? Do you mean 3 computers lol?

 

 

What are you on about, for different machines or something?

 

 

Ahh what? What are you actually trying to do?

 

Sounds like what you really need is a 4 port internet router and 2 or 3 wireless access points, or a router and a switch plus the APs. Connect all the important stuff you don't want to mess with to the first wireless AP with its own SSID and the rest to your dd-wrt wireless AP/router.

 

 

I don't really understand why you want 3 routers?

 

 

ahem, i'm very bad at drawing network layouts ahem...

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no they attach router 2 + 3 to router 1, i want router 1, 2, 3 to be hooked up seperatly to one modem, let's see if i can draw a schematic, please wait

 

You would need separate internet connections which would cost money. Depending on the type of connection how hard it will be will change, then of course you ISP has to support what you are doing. Some can across the same phone line or fibre, others may require physically separate cables in to the house.

 

Your only other option is to have a main router in front of others as I already mentioned and likely that link too, haven't read it. You don't have to double NAT, just set the secondary routers to route mode (disable NAT).

 

Are you just wanting to be able to reboot your dd-wrt and change configurations etc or is it actually a bandwidth problem?

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yeah but what is the diffrence between a switch and a bridge?

 

Bridge is an old term for equipment not used anymore. It was used to join two computer networks together but with separate broadcast domains, so only has 2 ports.

 

Switch is multiple ports and each port is its own broadcast domain.

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Here's a nice way to think about the difference between what a hub, bridge and switch are. Think of how a phone network exchange works.

 

Hub = You can hear everyone's phone call and they care hear yours. Tons of shouting over each other and asking to wait each others turn. Horrible and inefficient.

Bridge = Used to join two hubs (or more) together but you only hear the specific phone call on the other side of the bridge plus everyone on your side.

Switch = You only hear the specific phone call you actually want, way better obviously.

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Here's a nice way to think about the difference between what a hub, bridge and switch are. Think of how a phone network exchange works.

Hub = You can hear everyone's phone call and they care hear yours. Tons of shouting over each other and asking to wait each others turn. Horrible and inefficient.

Bridge = Used to join two hubs (or more) together but you only hear the specific phone call on the other side of the bridge plus everyone on your side.

Switch = You only hear the specific phone call you actually want, way better obviously.

so say i put a switch behind my modem with three routers behind that, will this increase my ping?
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so say i put a switch behind my modem with three routers behind that, will this increase my ping?

Yes but your ping wil not increase.

Wat is your ping? Test it with a PC connected with a cable directly to your modem.

Do you know how ping works and what it is?

Ping will increase on WiFi and when you have a bad router/modem/switch

My ping is on WiFi 12 on cable 10 (sometimes 0 lol?)

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I think what you are trying to do is have a seperate public IP for each router. If so, the first thing to do is contact your ISP and ask them what your options are. They should be able to set up your account and modem so that you can have multiple public IPs. In order to do this, they may require you to change to a business account instead of residential, and you might have to pay for static IPs. Both of these are good things since you are running a business from your home.

You will need a switch between the routers and your modem. The switch will add a slight amount of latency to everything, but usually on the order of a few hundred nanoseconds for a good gigabit switch. You should get a gigabit switch even if speeds are lower than that, because the internal hardware has less latency than a 100Mb switch.

Here is my exact setup, for reference. I have a business line at my house and lease 5 static IP addresses. My ONT (modem equivalent for fiber) is connected to a switch. Two routers are connected to the switch. The switch is also connected to a powerline adaptor, and on the other side of the house a third router's WAN connects to the powerline. All three routers are set to one of my public IPs, and only the one connected by powerline sees meaningfully increased pings.

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