Any opinions?

[Richieisnice]

It's missing a PSU, But i wasn't sure which one to get. Thoughts?

 

And will the stock fan in the case be enough, or I need to get some different ones?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($209.99 @ Newegg) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury White 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($41.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($147.99 @ Amazon) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($309.99 @ Amazon) 

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($14.99 @ Newegg) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)  ($84.98 @ OutletPC) 

Monitor: BenQ GL2460HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($129.00 @ Amazon) 

Total: $1148.90

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-24 14:31 EST-0500

[vanished]

600W should do it, unless you want to do SLI in the future, then probably 850

[Castdeath97]

Get the R9 390 since it beats the 970 in higher resoultions

 

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Sapphire-Nitro-Radeon-R9-390-8GB-Review

 

 

 

And why not get skylake.

[tbroadwater2010]

 

It's missing a PSU, But i wasn't sure which one to get. Thoughts?

 

And will the stock fan in the case be enough, or I need to get some different ones?

 

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vdPyhM) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vdPyhM/by_merchant/)

 

Type|Item|Price

:----|:----|:----

**CPU** | [intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690k) | $209.99 @ Newegg 

**CPU Cooler** | [Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2) | $19.99 @ Newegg 

**Motherboard** | [MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z97sslikraitedition) | $89.99 @ Newegg 

**Memory** | [Kingston HyperX Fury White 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-hx318c10fwk28) | $41.99 @ Amazon 

**Storage** | [samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e500bam) | $147.99 @ Amazon 

**Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp42974kr) | $309.99 @ Amazon 

**Case** | [Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-case-phes614pbk) | $99.99 @ Amazon 

**Optical Drive** | [Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-optical-drive-drw24b1stblkbas) | $14.99 @ Newegg 

**Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-kw900140) | $84.98 @ OutletPC 

**Monitor** | [benQ GL2460HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-gl2460hm) | $129.00 @ Amazon 

 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |

 | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1183.90

 | Mail-in rebates | -$35.00

 | **Total** | **$1148.90**

 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2015-11-24 14:28 EST-0500 |

 

Post the BB code instead of whatever this is and it should be normal. And please follow your own topics.

 

Now to the build: I dont know your budget so here we go.

• PSU i would go with http://pcpartpicker.com/part/silverstone-power-supply-st45sfg which is a 450w silverstone. 
• Your stock fans should be good for this build

Go with the 390 instead of the 970 for better performance

[Atmos]

Alright, build optimization time.

 

1. Swap the 970 for an R9 390, costs the same, performs better, and has more than double the usable vram
2. Consider also getting an HDD, if you do not have one you can throw in already. That SSD will be gone after an os and a handful of games.
3. Yes, the fans in the primo are fine. They're a bit loud if you dont regulate them, but they are totally fine.
4. Get the OS from g2a to save 50$, then use that 50$ to get a dark rock pro 3 cpu cooler. Far, far quieter, far, far cooler running. And as shallow as this last bit is, it will look SOOO much better in that huge case than the tiny 212.

[tbroadwater2010]

600W should do it, unless you want to do SLI in the future, then probably 850

PC Part Picker shows 332W, 600is a bit overkill dont you think. 500 at most unless he wants to SLI then i would go with 750W

[vanished]

PC Part Picker shows 332W, 600is a bit overkill dont you think. 500 at most unless he wants to SLI then i would go with 750W

It'll run on less for sure, but I think my numbers should put him right around 50% load on the PSU which would be the most efficient.

[CalculuS]

nvm wrong thread.

[Atmos]

PC Part Picker shows 332W, 600is a bit overkill dont you think. 500 at most unless he wants to SLI then i would go with 750W

 

You always want about a 100-150w higher number on the side of your psu, than your system actually pulls. 95% of all power supplies WILL NOT reach their listed number before they cause your system to crash. You never want to run a psu at max load for any extended period of time. like I said, 95% of psu you test won't even get to their listed wattage. 

A 600W would be a minimum for any i5+high end gpu (390/970+), unless the powersupply is from a VERY reputable company like seasonic.

 

 

It's overkill to prove the point, but as I tested here, this logisys psu rated at 480W, only hit about 300 before crashing my system, and actually destroying the motherboard in my test bench

[spoiler=]

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/371608-logisys-ps480d2-bk-powersupply-review/

[tbroadwater2010]

It'll run on less for sure, but I think my numbers should put him right around 50% load on the PSU which would be the most efficient.

I probably did run it thin on 450W, 500W would be more efficient as it is good to keep a 30% buffer on a PSU

 

You always want about a 100-150w higher number on the side of your psu, than your system actually pulls. 95% of all power supplies WILL NOT reach their listed number before they cause your system to crash. You never want to run a psu at max load for any extended period of time. like I said, 95% of psu you test won't even get to their listed wattage. 

A 600W would be a minimum for any i5+high end gpu (390/970+), unless the powersupply is from a VERY reputable company like seasonic.

 

 

It's overkill to prove the point, but as I tested here, this logisys psu rated at 480W, only hit about 300 before crashing my system, and actually destroying the motherboard in my test bench

[spoiler=]

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/371608-logisys-ps480d2-bk-powersupply-review/

I understand what you are saying. That Logisys you used doesn't seem like the greatest. I chose an 80+ Gold certified PSU which, as shown in below graphic, would be 90% efficient as compared to whatever that cheapo PSU would be.

 

 

That being said i probably should have went 500W which again is 66% which leaves 34% for extra overages, with a 90% efficency rate. I wanted a cheaper PSU that would still be considered not cringe worth and still get the job done for cheap.

[Atmos]

I probably did run it thin on 450W, 500W would be more efficient as it is good to keep a 30% buffer on a PSU

 

I understand what you are saying. That Logisys you used doesn't seem like the greatest. I chose an 80+ Gold certified PSU which, as shown in below graphic, would be 90% efficient as compared to whatever that cheapo PSU would be.

 

 

That being said i probably should have went 500W which again is 66% which leaves 34% for extra overages, with a 90% efficency rate. I wanted a cheaper PSU that would still be considered not cringe worth and still get the job done for cheap.

 

I'm not saying the powersupply you went with is bad. Silverstone makes great psu's. However, you need to pretty much ignore pcpp's wattage reccomendaiton.

At load a 970 will pull about 300W from the wall, a 390 even more (around ~400 give or take), and a 4690k can easily pull another 120W when overclocked. Those two together, would overwhelm the 450W psu you linked.

 

Assuming you want to run at no more than about 60-70% of your psu's max rated load, then you should optimally aim for a psu with a wattage of about 650-700W. Not only will the psu last longer, due to it not running full steal 24/7 during gaming sessions, but it will do so more efficiently.

[tbroadwater2010]

I'm not saying the powersupply you went with is bad. Silverstone makes great psu's. However, you need to pretty much ignore pcpp's wattage reccomendaiton.

At load a 970 will pull about 300W from the wall, a 390 even more (around ~400 give or take), and a 4690k can easily pull another 120W when overclocked. Those two together, would overwhelm the 450W psu you linked.

 

Assuming you want to run at no more than about 60-70% of your psu's max rated load, then you should optimally aim for a psu with a wattage of about 650-700W. Not only will the psu last longer, due to it not running full steal 24/7 during gaming sessions, but it will do so more efficiently.

Dually noted good sir. My builds i do purposely over compensate in the PSU category (usually not under 750) as i never know what my future (or the future of those whom i build for) prepare for so i offer them larger PSUs and the ability to upgrade, That being said i guess it does make sense that the 390 can pull 350+ from the wall.

[Richieisnice]

The reason I picked the 970 is because I've noticed on some reviews, it runs cooler than the 390's

[Atmos]

The reason I picked the 970 is because I've noticed on some reviews, it runs cooler than the 390's

 

Temperatures take with a grain of salt.

Cases can change temps, whether or not you have case fans, or where they are placed, other items in the system can all swing temps to one way or the other.

The biggest difference to temps though, is the cooler on the card. Even the shittiest 390 with an open air cooler runs miles cooler than a reference 970 and its terribad blower design. That said, a solid 390 like the pcs+ or nitro will run just as cool, if only marginally hotter than a 970; all within the thermal limits, and not nearly enough to damage any other component in your system at all.

 

Get the 390, it has more flexibility and is just all around a better card for your money.