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Hi, I am thinking about building a computer with the potential deals coming up on Black Friday and Cyber Monday.  I hope to play games like Fallout 4 and XCOM 2, along with a few other games that may come out in the future.  I have never had a computer that could play games like that on higher settings, so I'm pretty excited for this PC!

These are the parts I've picked out.  Can you guys help me out?  Also, would you recommend that CPU or the Intel Core i5-4690K?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N78vrH

Thanks for the help ahead of time!

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If you're not concerned with "future-proofing", you can swap out the B150 MOBO and i5-6500 for a 4690K and a Z97 MOBO.

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[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N78vrH) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N78vrH/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price

:----|:----|:----

**CPU** | [intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80662i56500) | $193.99 @ NCIX US

**Motherboard** | [MSI B150 PC Mate ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-b150pcmate) | $82.99 @ SuperBiiz

**Memory** | [\*G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f42133c15d8gvr) | $39.99 @ Newegg

**Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex) | $44.99 @ Newegg

**Video Card** | [MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-r9390gaming8g) | $309.98 @ SuperBiiz

**Case** | [Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r) | $44.99 @ Newegg

**Power Supply** | [seaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii620bronze) | $64.99 @ SuperBiiz

**Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-kw900140) | $85.98 @ OutletPC

**Keyboard** | [Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-keyboard-sgb3010kkmf1us) | $19.99 @ Newegg

 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |

 | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $937.89

 | Mail-in rebates | -$50.00

 | **Total** | **$887.89**

 | \*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria |

 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2015-11-24 03:29 EST-0500 |

 
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card  ($309.98 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $933.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-24 03:35 EST-0500
 
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Hi, I am thinking about building a computer with the potential deals coming up on Black Friday and Cyber Monday.  I hope to play games like Fallout 4 and XCOM 2, along with a few other games that may come out in the future.  I have never had a computer that could play games like that on higher settings, so I'm pretty excited for this PC!

These are the parts I've picked out.  Can you guys help me out?  Also, would you recommend that CPU or the Intel Core i5-4690K?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N78vrH

Thanks for the help ahead of time!

Or non-overclockable

 

 
Motherboard: MSI H97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($88.75 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card  ($309.98 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $873.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-24 03:37 EST-0500
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He doesn't need to spend extra $100 ona cpu, for a pc that is only ment for gaming.

 

And what do you think an i7 is meant for? Picture viewing? 

 

Check out some Fallout 4 reviews with an i5 and you ll see constant report of CPU Usage of 100%, where an i7 gets nowhere close to that. As newer games start to utilise more cores/threads, the i5 will show it's weaknesses a lot faster than any quad core i7 out there.

 

At the end of the day though, I didn't see a budget specified anywhere.

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And what do you think an i7 is meant for? Picture viewing? 

 

Check out some Fallout 4 reviews with an i5 and you ll see constant report of CPU Usage of 100%, where an i7 gets nowhere close to that. As newer games start to utilise more cores/threads, the i5 will show it's weaknesses a lot faster than any quad core i7 out there.

 

At the end of the day though, I didn't see a budget specified anywhere.

The only real differences between i5 and i7 on desktop is hyperthreading, slightly larger L3 cache, and slightly higher stock clock speeds. None of these factors make any real difference in gaming. Virtually no games can use more than 4 threads, and the few that do don't see any really significant gain with an i7. The extra L3 cache also doesn't benefit games. As for the higher clock speeds, if you have the k model CPUs, you just have to slightly bump up the multiplier on the i5, and you match the i7 in gaming.  

 

The i7s are really meant for productivity software that is programmed to make effective use of more than 4 threads. Most games still only use 4 threads, very, very few titles can use more than 4 threads. This state of affairs is likely to continue until the next console generation at least. As such, there isn't much point in spending the extra $100 for an i7 over an i5 if all you're doing is gaming. That $100 would be better spent on a better graphics card if you want better gaming performance, or an SSD if you want a snappier, more responsive system.

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Thanks for the replies!  Sorry, I forgot to add a budget.  My budget is up to $1000 US.  I'm not sure if I'm comfortable overclocking because I would like this PC to last a good number of years as I don't believe I will have money to spare to upgrade pieces, if that helps in further advice.

Would the i5-4590 be a big step down from the overclocked i5-4690k?  Would it be a big step down from the i7?  Because I would be okay with spending a bit more if the i7 would assure good performance on future games and wouldn't risk overheating too much and ruining my PC.

 

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Thanks for the replies!  Sorry, I forgot to add a budget.  My budget is up to $1000 US.  I'm not sure if I'm comfortable overclocking because I would like this PC to last a good number of years as I don't believe I will have money to spare to upgrade pieces, if that helps in further advice.

Would the i5-4590 be a big step down from the overclocked i5-4690k?  Would it be a big step down from the i7?  Because I would be okay with spending a bit more if the i7 would assure good performance on future games and wouldn't risk overheating too much and ruining my PC.

 

 

If you don't want to OC, the i7 4790k will be automatically running at 4.4ghz under boost which is plenty for any game today. Your hardware life wont shorten if you do a mild overclock by the way, only if you start overvolting and going crazy with it, which i'm sure you wont. 

 

 

The only real differences between i5 and i7 on desktop is hyperthreading, slightly larger L3 cache, and slightly higher stock clock speeds. None of these factors make any real difference in gaming. Virtually no games can use more than 4 threads, and the few that do don't see any really significant gain with an i7. The extra L3 cache also doesn't benefit games. As for the higher clock speeds, if you have the k model CPUs, you just have to slightly bump up the multiplier on the i5, and you match the i7 in gaming.  

 

The i7s are really meant for productivity software that is programmed to make effective use of more than 4 threads. Most games still only use 4 threads, very, very few titles can use more than 4 threads. This state of affairs is likely to continue until the next console generation at least. As such, there isn't much point in spending the extra $100 for an i7 over an i5 if all you're doing is gaming. That $100 would be better spent on a better graphics card if you want better gaming performance, or an SSD if you want a snappier, more responsive system.

 

Yes I know the stats and that sounds all good and fair, however real life performance is different. But with newer titles coming out with better core and thread support, I really wouldn't buy an i5 if I was him. Especially if he has the budget for an i7. And rendering/productivity software is more aimed towards the X99 platform than the quad core i7s. 

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Away from the CPU discussion, and it comes down to personal opinion, but I'd personally prefer to get the full version of Windows as opposed to the Windows OEM version. That's because Windows 10 is going to be the 'last' (probably not very last, but at least for a fairly long duration) Windows operating system. And so if you ever want to move to a different motherboard later on it's nice to have the full version so that you can do that. 

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If you don't want to OC, the i7 4790k will be automatically running at 4.4ghz under boost which is plenty for any game today. Your hardware life wont shorten if you do a mild overclock by the way, only if you start overvolting and going crazy with it, which i'm sure you wont. 

 

 

 

Yes I know the stats and that sounds all good and fair, however real life performance is different. But with newer titles coming out with better core and thread support, I really wouldn't buy an i5 if I was him. Especially if he has the budget for an i7. And rendering/productivity software is more aimed towards the X99 platform than the quad core i7s. 

There is no need for an i7. The i5 will do just fine. There will never be a huge difference in games more like 3-5 FPS more which isn't worth the $100 in my opinion. I don't think he will ever use programs that use more threads. 

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I'd stay on the skylake platform if you want it to last a long time; in a few years you might want a usb type c for something, want to upgrade to a kabylake i7, want to add an m.2 and another graphics card etc. Granted you'd need a better motherboard to do most of this, but an i5 6400-6600 is the way to go if it's not just for now.

If you make a post contradicting mine that doesn't directly address my claims, or cites 'facts' without evidence, I'm probably not going to bother responding to it, because you probably didn't bother reading my post properly, and because life is too short. It doesn't mean I don't have an answer for you. It means I'm not dignifying you with a response. 

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I'd stay on the skylake platform if you want it to last a long time; in a few years you might want a usb type c for something, want to upgrade to a kabylake i7, want to add an m.2 and another graphics card etc. Granted you'd need a better motherboard to do most of this, but an i5 6400-6600 is the way to go if it's not just for now.

Would you mind checking out this build and giving me feedback?  Any critiques or suggestions would be much appreciated!

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XHym99

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Specifically, I would like to buy this PSU (http://www.amazon.com/SeaSonic-550-Watt-CrossFire-Certified-SSR-550RM/dp/B00918MEZG) for my build, but I'm not sure if it's too expensive (it seems reliable, but would like to hear your opinion) for a PSU.

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Would you mind checking out this build and giving me feedback?  Any critiques or suggestions would be much appreciated!

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XHym99

mobo is a very solid choice but you could get more for the money; Asus is quality but comes with a price premium. AsRock H170M Pro4S is $76.50 and has better LAN, and misses nothing important except the usb 3.1s. The MSI z170A Krait Gaming is $119.99 and has almost eveything you could want (except only usb 3.1 type A), including the ability to add another graphics card and upgrade to an overclockable cpu in the future. The options are almost endless so don't worry too much about it. 

Other than that, get an ssd. 

If you make a post contradicting mine that doesn't directly address my claims, or cites 'facts' without evidence, I'm probably not going to bother responding to it, because you probably didn't bother reading my post properly, and because life is too short. It doesn't mean I don't have an answer for you. It means I'm not dignifying you with a response. 

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