i5 4570 "overclock" Help needed!

[waxer_R6]

So I have been trying out some overclocking settings of my Asus Gryphon Z97M motherboard. Please keep in mind I have a non "k" series chip which is not overclockable!

I have never overclocked my CPU before but I read that one can push a non "k" series chip up to its advertised boost or beyond... So I have done the following:

 

Specs of my CPU:
i5-4570

clock: 3.2GHz

boost: 3.6 GHz

 

 

You see the frequency is 3.7 GHz

 

 

BCLK is at 103 which was done automatically by the motherboard

 

and finally what I am concerned about:

 

 

Does it actually make a difference if I choose a higher percentage?

 

I do not know much about overclocking, so I thought you might help me

 

Thanks in advance, and if instructions unclear, do not hesitate to ask

 

[Mohenjo]

wait, 4570k? the 4570 cant OC 

 

- im an idiot sorry - 

[Shimejii]

its more power, on a non K chip you could be doing bad just FYI

[waxer_R6]

its more power, on a non K chip you could be doing bad just FYI

Well my chip runs stable after a 12h test with prime95

[Shimejii]

Just know that even a few 100 Mhz on a non K chip could do some damage, they were not meant for OC past a few 100 mhz at that, just be careful

[KemoKa]

Just know that even a few 100 Mhz on a non K chip could do some damage, they were not meant for OC past a few 100 mhz at that, just be careful

What exactly is the difference between a non-K chip and a K chip? They're the same die, they just have a locked multiplier.

No reason why you can't get a good BLCK OC, even a couple hundred MHz.

 

I know someone who overclocked her i3 to 4.0GHz stable.

[airdeano]

remember, raising the BLCK speed also influences your PCIe bus speeds and

RAM speeds. only until the Z170 chipset, they allow independent strap tuning.

 

5-8% speed increase with BLCK tuning is not out of the norm.

[Shimejii]

What exactly is the difference between a non-K chip and a K chip? They're the same die, they just have a locked multiplier.

No reason why you can't get a good BLCK OC, even a couple hundred MHz.

 

I know someone who overclocked her i3 to 4.0GHz stable.

Pretty much the locked multiplier is going to limit your abilites, and turbo boost sometimes just kicks it up to the limit by default. you can do a few 100 mhz but if your trying to do that it would have been a better idea to just buy a K chip and save for it if at the time you couldnt afford it.

[waxer_R6]

What exactly is the difference between a non-K chip and a K chip? They're the same die, they just have a locked multiplier.

No reason why you can't get a good BLCK OC, even a couple hundred MHz.

 

I know someone who overclocked her i3 to 4.0GHz stable.

 

Okay this sounds like good news, but what about the CPU cabaility? What does it change?

[waxer_R6]

Pretty much the locked multiplier is going to limit your abilites, and turbo boost sometimes just kicks it up to the limit by default. you can do a few 100 mhz but if your trying to do that it would have been a better idea to just buy a K chip and save for it if at the time you couldnt afford it.

I never intended to overclock my CPU but i stumbled across this and thought, well why not try and squeeze out a little more performance for the money I spent

[arniks8]

Just know that even a few 100 Mhz on a non K chip could do some damage, they were not meant for OC past a few 100 mhz at that, just be careful

Complete BS, non k CPU`s just have locked multiplier.

[KemoKa]

Okay this sounds like good news, but what about the CPU cabaility? What does it change?

It'll change a number of things on the CPU because you're raising the base clock. It's also called FSB overclocking. It affects RAM speed as well, if memory serves.

Someone correct me if I've screwed something up.

[arniks8]

 

Okay this sounds like good news, but what about the CPU cabaility? What does it change?

It`s about power derlivery, it shouldn`t make a difference at low clocks.

 

 

It'll change a number of things on the CPU because you're raising the base clock. It's also called FSB overclocking. It affects RAM speed as well, if memory serves.

 

Someone correct me if I've screwed something up.

CPU cabaility is specifically for CPU, RAM and BLCK have other settings.

[waxer_R6]

 

It`s about power derlivery, it shouldn`t make a difference at low clocks.

So even if I raise it to 140% it won't do any damage?

 

 

remember, raising the BLCK speed also influences your PCIe bus speeds and
RAM speeds. only until the Z170 chipset, they allow independent strap tuning.

 

5-8% speed increase with BLCK tuning is not out of the norm.

Means I can't really harm my CPU by chaning the BLCK or the Capability?

[arniks8]

 

Means I can't really harm my CPU by chaning the BLCK or the Capability?

He meant that too much BLCK just won`t work.

 

 

So even if I raise it to 140% it won't do any damage?

No, CPU won`t even use that much. CPU cabaility would come in handy if were pushing high voltage on CPU.

[airdeano]

So even if I raise it to 140% it won't do any damage?

Means I can't really harm my CPU by chaning the BLCK or the Capability?

 

nope, but your RAM and PCIe won't be able to stand the overspeed of the

bus. only thing will happen is the machine will not boot or POST. stability of

the PCIe bus (GPU is usually part of this) will extremely overclock the GPU

(although you weren't trying to) to unachievable extremes. same for the

RAM, as you change the BLCK, the RAM speed also changes (not noted

now as it prolly is set on AUTO).

[iamdarkyoshi]

I know on a z77 motherboard and an i5 2500, I can get 3.8ghz by setting the all core multiplier limit to 38. Runs fine with everything else left alone.

[waxer_R6]

nope, but your RAM and PCIe won't be able to stand the overspeed of the

bus. only thing will happen is the machine will not boot or POST. stability of

the PCIe bus (GPU is usually part of this) will extremely overclock the GPU

(although you weren't trying to) to unachievable extremes. same for the

RAM, as you change the BLCK, the RAM speed also changes (not noted

now as it prolly is set on AUTO).

I see what you mean, I was playing a game (set the capability to 130%) and the GPU failed, meaning it just stopped working, so I will set it back to 110 or even 100%

But thanks for the advice!