960 4gb vs 970 4gb

[The_Dillster]

What's the difference? can you use the 960 in todays gaming age to run at high/ultra 1080p (Black ops 3, gta V , Fallout 4)

[Dougieman1001]

What's the difference? can you use the 960 in todays gaming age to run at high/ultra 1080p (Black ops 3, gta V , Fallout 

Im pretty Sure the 960 Will run it, the 970 will get slower if you use over 3.5 GB Of ram

 

[Sauron]

the difference is that the 970 is about 40% faster. And yes, the 960 is fine at 1080p, but I'd buy an r9 380 instead.

[Sauron]

Im pretty Sure the 960 Will run it, the 970 also only has 3.5 Gb of ram <-- Just had to point it out

 

wrong, it has 4gb. They just get slower if you use more than 3.5gb.

[Castdeath97]

I'd get a R9 380 4GB at 200-180 dollars, it should handle most games at 1080p 60fps. 

[The_Dillster]

But my only worry with amd is the constant problems i've had with them apart from overheating, constant crashing and graphical problems

[Dougieman1001]

wrong, it has 4gb. They just get slower if you use more than 3.5gb.

Oh Sorry, I was misinformed, Thanks

[Dougieman1001]

But my only worry with amd is the constant problems i've had with them apart from overheating, constant crashing and graphical problems

But as they bring it to the table, I'd go for the 390, It has 8GB Of ram and matches/beats on most benchmarks

[The_Dillster]

Also, does the 960 have 4gb of ram or is it exactly the same as the 970 with the disabled l2 cache causing 500mb slower?

[Dougieman1001]

Also, does the 960 have 4gb of ram or is it exactly the same as the 970 with the disabled l2 cache causing 500mb slower?

Yeah it has 4gb of ram and when Going over 3.5 It wont get slower I dont think

[SeanAngelo]

What's the difference? can you use the 960 in todays gaming age to run at high/ultra 1080p (Black ops 3, gta V , Fallout 4)

didnt you already make a topic on this?

 

ONE is enough.

[The_Dillster]

Yeah it has 4gb of ram and when Going over 3.5 It wont get slower I dont think

Cheers

[The_Dillster]

didnt you already make a topic on this?

 

ONE is enough.

I accidentally posted twice, sorry about that. poor internet where i'm at 

[KemoKa]

Im pretty Sure the 960 Will run it, the 970 also only has 3.5 Gb of ram <-- Just had to point it out

 

wrong, it has 4gb. They just get slower if you use more than 3.5gb.

It has 4GB, but with one of the ROPs dead, it can only use 3.5GB at full speed. The rest of the frame buffer is a looooooooot slower. I know you both already knew that, but it would be easier and faster to move the frames to system memory, quite honestly.

[Sauron]

It has 4GB, but with one of the ROPs dead, it can only use 3.5GB at full speed. The rest of the frame buffer is a looooooooot slower. I know you both already knew that, but it would be easier and faster to move the frames to system memory, quite honestly.

 

no, it wouldn't

[The_Dillster]

no, it wouldn't

Well what's the true answer then?

 

[Sauron]

Well what's the true answer then?

 

 

the 970 is much faster, there's no doubt about it. the last 500mb have significantly slower access so you may get some stuttering in extreme cases where you use all the vram - not going to happen at 1080p. Either way you should get neither, the r9 380 is a ebtter offer than the 960' and the r9 390 is better than the 970.

[KemoKa]

no, it wouldn't

 

 

Well what's the true answer then?

 

It'd be like, APU speeds. System memory works better as a frame buffer than a slashed RAM chip, surely. Especially when it operates at 1/8th the speed.

 

In any case, the 970 is still way faster than the 960 (which can't really even use all 4GB anyway - any texture that used that much space would tank the GPU performance to unplayable levels. It's a marketing stunt.)

I would go with a 390 like Sauron. Cheaper, on par or faster than the 970 and has a larger frame buffer. And computationally is far more powerful, which bodes very well for the future when that power can be fully tapped in games.

[Sauron]

It'd be like, APU speeds. System memory works better as a frame buffer than a slashed RAM chip, surely. Especially when it operates at 1/8th the speed.

 

No, because the data would have to pass through the pcie bus and the cpu before it can get redirected to system memory. The latency would kill your performance even more than a nerfed vram chip (by the way, a half speed gddr5 chip is still faster than most ddr3 ram). The gpu in an apu is sitting right next to the ram, it doesn't have such a high latency problem. Also, there's a reason gpus that use ddr3 still have dedicated chips on them.

[Guest]

But my only worry with amd is the constant problems i've had with them apart from overheating, constant crashing and graphical problems

Aslong as you get a card with a good aftermarket cooler you shouldnt experience these issues.

(consult us for advice on aftermarket cooler)

[The_Dillster]

Aslong as you get a card with a good aftermarket cooler you shouldnt experience these issues.

(consult us for advice on aftermarket cooler)

Okay then, if i was going to choose either a 380x or a 390x could you give me a price range/examples of what i could get? (New Zealand by the way)

[Guest]

Okay then, if i was going to choose either a 380x or a 390x could you give me a price range/examples of what i could get? (New Zealand by the way)

Well the general thought is this

Good: Sapphire, MSI, Powercolor (run cool and quiet)

Decent: XFX (louder than the "good" coolers and a little bit hotter but otherwise nothing wrong).

Bad: Asus, Gigabyte (Bad coolers for Asus atleast, think gigabyte was something about voltage lock(?) someone plz correct me if im wrong)