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Oops, i niw realise it wasnt the power supply. IN YOUR FACE CORSAIR HATERS! I just plugged something in that I should not have!

Sorry to go off topic, but is there anywhere i can read more on the silicon lottery and maybe get an answer or two?  I know im on a website for that but im still asking.

Intel's YouTube channel has some videos about CPU manufacturing.

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At least I'm not a fanboy.

The only thing in your build that isn't from Corsair that could be is your SSD.

Corsair makes really high quality products (I DO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SOME OF THEIR LOW END STUFF IS LOW END) and they're typically at a pretty good price, I dig how they look and the warranties they include.

At least I have a really good looking build with attractive well matching parts, can't say the same for your poop brown and puke tan fans with your blue LED's and black motherboard, with white case accents .

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From a toms hardware post:

When chip manufacturers like Intel, TSMC, UMC, GF, etc. make wafers, there are slight variations in material quality across the wafer surface, there are local variations in how the lithography, metal vapor deposition, photoresist chemical deposition, etc. are done and this can yield a significant contrast between how good the best chip of a given batch will perform vs how bad the worst chip of the same batch will perform.

To maximize profit, chip manufacturers test and sort chips based on various criteria such as leakage current, power draw at key frequencies, salvageable defects, etc. to decide which product range the chips fit best in. That's binning.

When you buy "K-chips", you are playing the lottery: you are guaranteed a chip that performs at least up to stock K-chip standard but you have absolutely no way to know beforehand how much farther beyond that your specific chip can go under any given circumstances beyond stock conditions. That's the chip lottery. Some i5/i7 3xxxK/4xxxK may max out at 4.2GHz while others may hit 5GHz. Some may require 60W@1.2V to get to a given clock rate while others may require 100W@1.35V.

Thank You.

 

If you dont mind me asking, so the i5-4660 would not need to worry about this?  Or is it just if you overclock a K-chip (example is the i5-4690k) then you would need to worry about it?

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At least I have a really good looking build with attractive well matching parts, can't say the same for your poop brown and puke tan fans with your blue LED's and black motherboard, with white case accents .

At least I have a better quality build with superior Noctua fans.

I buy things because they're good, not because they're pretty and shiny.

I look at my monitor when I use my PC, not my PC.

 

Plus the window is tinted black and you can't see shit but the blue LED when the panel is on.

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At least I have a better quality build with superior Noctua fans.

I buy things because they're good, not because they're pretty and shiny.

I look at my monitor when I use my PC, not my PC.

 

Plus the window is tinted black and you can't see shit but the blue LED when the panel is on.

How is your build better quality? I have higher quality components- also the Corsair SP120's and AF140's are incredibly silent and move an amazing amount of air.

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At least I have a better quality build with superior Noctua fans.

I buy things because they're good, not because they're pretty and shiny.

I look at my monitor when I use my PC, not my PC.

 

Plus the window is tinted black and you can't see shit but the blue LED when the panel is on.

Making a pc look good is one of the best parts of building a pc.  When spending large amounts of money, may as well look nice.

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How is your build better quality? I have higher quality components- also the Corsair SP120's and AF140's are incredibly silent and move an amazing amount of air.

NF-A14 PWM's move more air and have a better warranty, and are quieter.

Do you watch LinusTechTips? They're their favorite fans too, they're actually coming out with branded ones of the exact ones I own.

Also your SSD is shit.

 

Gigabyte/Asus Mobo's are a wash, we both have Gigabyte GPU's, same CPU, RAM is RAM, my PSU is SeaSonic (but yours is good too, probably overpriced) and we have the same HDD.

Airdeano said the 450D was terrible, I'd assume the same goes for the 350D too.

I think my case is shit though as well, I want a better one.

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NF-A14 PWM's move more air and have a better warranty, and are quieter.

Do you watch LinusTechTips? They're their favorite fans too, they're actually coming out with branded ones of the exact ones I own.

Also your SSD is shit.

 

Gigabyte/Asus Mobo's are a wash, we both have Gigabyte GPU's, same CPU, RAM is RAM, my PSU is SeaSonic (but yours is good too, probably overpriced) and we have the same HDD.

Airdeano said the 450D was terrible, I'd assume the same goes for the 350D too.

I think my case is shit though as well, I want a better one.

And yeah, I know the NF-F12's are LTT's favorite fans, but their ugly and expensive but perform well. The corsair fans are nice looking, not as expensive, and perform well.

 

My Gigabyte motherboard is amazing (great selection of IO, overclocking capability, NIC, Audio Card, and looks), my PSU is incredibly high quality and was only 100$ and only 0$ after a gift card, my SSD has great read / writes, and the 350D is a dream to build it, for a small case it's very open and easy to build in, if I had to buy another MATX case I'd buy this one again.

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Thank You.

 

If you dont mind me asking, so the i5-4660 would not need to worry about this?  Or is it just if you overclock a K-chip (example is the i5-4690k) then you would need to worry about it?

 

Intel bins there CPU's, if parts don't work they disable them, if its unstable at a certain clock speed or voltage they turn it down and sell them as a CPU with slightly lower specs.

 

The 5820K, 5830K, and 5960X all are made on the same wafers.

 

Due to all this it is extremely uncommon to buy a CPU that is incapable of hitting its stock clock speed.

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And yeah, I know the NF-F12's are LTT's favorite fans, but their ugly and expensive but perform well. The corsair fans are nice looking, not as expensive, and perform well.

 

My Gigabyte motherboard is amazing (great selection of IO, overclocking capability, NIC, Audio Card, and looks), my PSU is incredibly high quality and was only 100$ and only 0$ after a gift card, my SSD has great read / writes, and the 350D is a dream to build it, for a small case it's very open and easy to build in, if I had to buy another MATX case I'd buy this one again.

This is why I bash the SSD, Kingston screwed their customers.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7763/an-update-to-kingston-ssdnow-v300-a-switch-to-slower-micron-nand

http://www.overclock.net/t/1457629/psa-about-the-kingston-v300-ssd-probable-foul-play-by-kingston

 

My case is supposed to be great, according to almost all of the internet it is, I disagree though.

I'm looking at Phanteks for my next case.

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This is why I bash the SSD, Kingston screwed their customers.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7763/an-update-to-kingston-ssdnow-v300-a-switch-to-slower-micron-nand

http://www.overclock.net/t/1457629/psa-about-the-kingston-v300-ssd-probable-foul-play-by-kingston

 

My case is supposed to be great, according to almost all of the internet it is, I disagree though.

I'm looking at Phanteks for my next case.

My PC boots in less than 10 seconds, I don't store games on my SSD, those go on my HDD, and the Adobe CC launches in seconds compared to nearly a minute on traditional HDD's. Also read / writes on my SSD are pretty great- I've had zero issues with it.

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Give me three good reasons why asus mobos are bad...

I own one, I wasn't saying it was bad.

I was saying the comparison between a Gigabyte/Asus mobo was a wash, a tie, they're both good.

Maybe I'm using that expression wrong, I don't know if I've ever used it lol.

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I own one, I wasn't saying it was bad.

I was saying the comparison between a Gigabyte/Asus mobo was a wash, a tie, they're both good.

Maybe I'm using that expression wrong, I don't know if I've ever used it lol.

Oh, sorry, i thought you meant "wash" like they were bad.  (i dont think wash is a term for bad but i would think it could be).

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