Basic help needed for custom loop.

[owen.fitzpatrick]

So I am planning to build a custom loop with my new PC incorporating the CPU and GPU. I have made a list of all the parts but that got deleted, my ideas/parts were:

H440

EK EVO CPU block

EK thermosphere GPU block

Phobya 1080mm radiator (9 120 fans)

Some basic soft tubing and affordable fittings (would rather go hardline but too expensive)

1500l/h pump (forgot model name)

Basic res

Some thermal pads and heat sinks for the GPU.

My plan was to put the PC on my desk and route the tubing from the case to the underside of my desk where I am planning to mount the rad, this would be beneficial as it adds lots of rad space without affect the noise and look of the h440.

EDIT: I can't put a res under the pump can I? Will it actually work (flow back up from the res? Will this damage performance?

Questions:

What kind of value fans are any good ~$10?

Are there any better universal GPU blocks?

Is this a terrible idea likely to spill water everywhere?

Sorry for the badly written post, I haven't slept in about 27 hours (on plane with fucking babies crying a very large man reclining very far back in front of me)

Edit:

I do not believe my plan was very descriptive.

I want my case on top of my desk where I get a good look of the internals, to do this is must be quiet and attractive, like the h440. The h440 doesn't have enough airflow for my liking so I want to remove a couple of pci slot covers and route roughly 60cm of tubing (each way so 120) to a radiator mounted on the underside of my desk.

[Lays]

I have a similar setup. Exact same radiator but I'm using a pump & res combo.

 

 

Can you put the res and pump outside the case and maybe under the desk or something as well?

It may be easier.

[owen.fitzpatrick]

I have a similar setup. Exact same radiator but I'm using a pump & res combo.

Can you put the res and pump outside the case and maybe under the desk or something as well?

It may be easier.

I could try but I like having the res in the case, I would be worried about smashing it however I could put the pump with the rad.

How does the rad work? It seems quite cheap for its size. Also is it possible to see some pics of your system/Watercooling setup?

[Lays]

I could try but I like having the res in the case, I would be worried about smashing it however I could put the pump with the rad.

How does the rad work? It seems quite cheap for its size. Also is it possible to see some pics of your system/Watercooling setup?

 

 

My setup looks absolutely atrocious because of what I've done lol. 

 

I have a window fan attached to a duct that brings cold air from outside into the radiator.

 

I'll go take pictures though one sec.

 

 

 

 

The radiator works fantastic, I highly recommend to get some "Yate Loon" fans from performance-pcs, they are like $4 each and you can ask for them to sleeve them for free in any color, but you'll want a fan controller & a fan hub.

 

 

Here's my radiator + ducting in action:

 

[owen.fitzpatrick]

My setup looks absolutely atrocious because of what I've done lol.

I have a window fan attached to a duct that brings cold air from outside into the radiator.

I'll go take pictures though one sec.

The radiator works fantastic, I highly recommend to get some "Yate Loon" fans from performance-pcs, they are like $4 each and you can ask for them to sleeve them for free in any color, but you'll want a fan controller & a fan hub.

Here's my radiator + ducting in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YKJUsb3bQE

26c on that OC, that's pretty impressive.

I'm jealous, $5 for good fans with custom sleeving. Shame delivery costs almost as much as the fans itself ($45 for 9 fans, $38 for shipping). I can only find them for $16 ea in Australia.

[Sleppo]

I would never put my rad outside my computer. This is of course a personal preference, but you are gonna move that sucker (trust me you ARE gonna move it at some point.) And when that day comes, it's gonna be so difficult. Another point is you cant use it if you're not having that rad with you.

If you're gonna do it that way, i would buy quick release valves. 

 

I might be misunderstanding this post, but in my opinion mounting a rad outside the computer isn't a good choice unless its mounted to the computer. Like a top mount or something. But the H440 is a reasonable sized case isn't it? why not just get a 240mm radiator and mount it on the inside, i think it could keep up with it. you could even mount another rad on the front of the case and put that on the loop as well.

 

Its some really extensive water cooling you got going on, if you feel like you dont have enough room why not get a bigger case? Like a Corsair Obsidian 650d. 

 

I might just be stupid, but i at least wanted to give you my point a view, i hope you can take something from this and use it. 

 

Anyhow i hope you get a great system out of it.

[Lays]

26c on that OC, that's pretty impressive.

Checking out late yoons now

 

Here's pics:

 

 

 

[Lays]

I would never put my rad outside my computer. This is of course a personal preference, but you are gonna move that sucker (trust me you ARE gonna move it at some point.) And when that day comes, it's gonna be so difficult. Another point is you cant use it if you're not having that rad with you.

If you're gonna do it that way, i would buy quick release valves. 

 

I might be misunderstanding this post, but in my opinion mounting a rad outside the computer isn't a good choice unless its mounted to the computer. Like a top mount or something. But the H440 is a reasonable sized case isn't it? why not just get a 240mm radiator and mount it on the inside, i think it could keep up with it. you could even mount another rad on the front of the case and put that on the loop as well.

 

Its some really extensive water cooling you got going on, if you feel like you dont have enough room why not get a bigger case? Like a Corsair Obsidian 650d. 

 

I might just be stupid, but i at least wanted to give you my point a view, i hope you can take something from this and use it. 

 

Anyhow i hope you get a great system out of it.

 

 

This radiator only costs about $100, and the "goods" required to use it are a lot cheaper than doing stuff inside your case.  2 good quality radiators will cost more than the 1080mm, and the 1080mm cools much much better, so if you're on a budget and want ultimate performance, you can't really beat it.

 

If you use quick disconnects it's super easy to work with. Even without QD's, if you just leave some extra tubing outside it works great, not to mention if you ever want colder temps you can basically put it out a window, or do what I did with the ducting (preferably do a better job LOL)

[owen.fitzpatrick]

I would never put my rad outside my computer. This is of course a personal preference, but you are gonna move that sucker (trust me you ARE gonna move it at some point.) And when that day comes, it's gonna be so difficult. Another point is you cant use it if you're not having that rad with you.

If you're gonna do it that way, i would buy quick release valves.

I might be misunderstanding this post, but in my opinion mounting a rad outside the computer isn't a good choice unless its mounted to the computer. Like a top mount or something. But the H440 is a reasonable sized case isn't it? why not just get a 240mm radiator and mount it on the inside, i think it could keep up with it. you could even mount another rad on the front of the case and put that on the loop as well.

Its some really extensive water cooling you got going on, if you feel like you dont have enough room why not get a bigger case? Like a Corsair Obsidian 650d.

I might just be stupid, but i at least wanted to give you my point a view, i hope you can take something from this and use it.

Anyhow i hope you get a great system out of it.

I get your point and I may mount it to the side of the case. I am going for this rad and external mounting it as it gets much more airflow due to the extra rad space and the constructed design of the h440. I may add quick release valves in the future but as of now I would prefer to invest the $50 in something more useful as I personally do not care about convenience in terms of PC building.

[Lays]

I get your point and I may mount it to the side of the case. I am going for this rad and external mounting it as it gets much more airflow due to the extra rad space and the constructed design of the h440. I may add quick release valves in the future but as of now I would prefer to invest the $50 in something more useful as I personally do not care about convenience in terms of PC building.

 

 

I was actually thinking of mounting mine to my case until I thought of putting it outside  / hooking up a "fresh air" duct to it, then I decided to put it on the dresser next to me instead.

[Sleppo]

This radiator only costs about $100, and the "goods" required to use it are a lot cheaper than doing stuff inside your case.  2 good quality radiators will cost more than the 1080mm, and the 1080mm cools much much better, so if you're on a budget and want ultimate performance, you can't really beat it.

 

If you use quick disconnects it's super easy to work with, even without QD's, if you just leave some extra tubing outside it works great, not to mention if you ever want colder temps you can basically put it out a window, or do what I did with the ducting (preferably do a better job LOL)

Yeah i understand that perspective, and you are very right it's the most BANG for the buck. 

 

But in my opinion you have some very high tradeoffs. That being its very unportable, and it's a bit more noisy. 

 

If i was you and i really wanted the external mount. I would get the smallest case EVER since you dont have to think about airflow that much. Of course the motherboard needs a bit, but nothing a 120mm couldn't handle. I think that would be cool. Like a super small case, packed with power.

[owen.fitzpatrick]

Here's pics:

That is beautiful. (I kind of ignored the fact that I would need 9 fan headers to power it)

Also that's the air-con ducting right?

[Lays]

Yeah i understand that perspective, and you are very right it's the most BANG for the buck. 

 

But in my opinion you have some very high tradeoffs. That being its very unportable, and it's a bit more noisy. 

 

If i was you and i really wanted the external mount. I would get the smallest case EVER since you dont have to think about airflow that much. Of course the motherboard needs a bit, but nothing a 120mm couldn't handle. I think that would be cool. Like a super small case, packed with power.

 

 

I wouldn't call it noisy, the radiator is so massive you can actually passively cool for hours on end.

 

I run my yate loons at 3 volts on it, usually only at like 3 am when it's really quiet is when I can hear them.  Then when I'm overclocking and benchmarking I crank them + my window fan on.

 

 

That is beautiful. (I kind of ignored the fact that I would need 9 fan headers to power it)

Also that's the air-con ducting right?

 

Yeah it's that flexible ducting stuff, then I covered it in a blanket to keep it from looking even worse than it already does LOL.  I need to make a proper "shroud" instead of duct tape and cardboard LOL.  I also need to buy some fan extension wires, to get rid of the rats nest of wiring for the fans, all the wires are to short so I can't hide them .

 

I think I may ask my stepdad to help me make a proper "shroud" for the radiator where the duct comes in, maybe out of wood or something then paint it and make it look nice.

 

The way I have the fans wired up is I bought a fan hub PCB off performance PC's that has 1 PWM input into 8 pwm output. Then 2 of the fans are on a y splitter.

That way I only have to run 1 wire outside to the hub, rather than all 9 fan wires.

 

On nights when it's like 10c outside, my temps are sooo low

 

I need to be careful when it starts getting colder and probably add some anti-freeze stuff to keep it from freezing, I also keep a really close eye on the dew-point to make sure condensation doesn't happen either. 

[owen.fitzpatrick]

Yeah i understand that perspective, and you are very right it's the most BANG for the buck.

But in my opinion you have some very high tradeoffs. That being its very unportable, and it's a bit more noisy.

If i was you and i really wanted the external mount. I would get the smallest case EVER since you dont have to think about airflow that much. Of course the motherboard needs a bit, but nothing a 120mm couldn't handle. I think that would be cool. Like a super small case, packed with power.

I believe the price/performance greatly outweighs the inconveniences but each to their own. Even spending double the amount on rads I wouldn't get the same cooling capabilities inside the case. (And lays can get even more with 'fresh air ducting').

I believe it would be cool to do that but I have always had a preference for ATX motherboards and cases as there are generally more options at a more reasonable price tag.

[Sleppo]

I believe the price/performance greatly outweighs the inconveniences but each to their own. Even spending double the amount on rads I wouldn't get the same cooling capabilities inside the case. (And lays can get even more with 'fresh air ducting').

I believe it would be cool to do that but I have always had a preference for ATX motherboards and cases as there are generally more options at a more reasonable price tag.

Yeah okay. I can't really understand the need for it to run this cool. Are you planning to overclock everything like super high? It's not to be pessimistic or anything, i just want to make sure that you know, you didn't need this much cooling for your hardware to run at stock speed

[Lays]

Yeah okay. I can't really understand the need for it to run this cool. Are you planning to overclock everything like super high? It's not to be pessimistic or anything, i just want to make sure that you know, you didn't need this much cooling for your hardware to run at stock speed

 

If he's getting more for his money then why not?

Maxwell really likes cold temps too, if he does plan on overclocking & gets a maxwell GPU, the colder the load temps the higher the OC :]

 

I think if he did a good job with mounting it and routing the wires it'd look nice. (If he does everything the opposite of what I did )

[owen.fitzpatrick]

Yeah okay. I can't really understand the need for it to run this cool. Are you planning to overclock everything like super high? It's not to be pessimistic or anything, i just want to make sure that you know, you didn't need this much cooling for your hardware to run at stock speed

I don't need it to run this cool, I am doing it this way as every other method would be much less effective and not cheaper.

This is more of a 'future proof loop' as it's something that doesn't change rapidly and will have enough performance for higher end hardware and hopefully dual GPUs

Also can any of you recommend cheap metal cutters to mod my h440, So I can run the tubing and some wires from the front bottom.

[Sunako]

I really enjoy my phobya eloop fans not sure on price were you are was able to get the 16 I'm using at about 14$ use each. Cheaper and less noise then the corsair fans. Also I get hard tubing cheaper then soft here but the compression fittings bring the cost back up.

Image is a little dated but better view