Broadwell prices?

[spyder]

I did a quick amazon search just randomly since that is the place where I get all my components (prime delivery). I took a look at the price of the 5775C. Why is it more expensive than the 6700K? and furthermore the 5820K seems to be the bang for the buck because its cheaper than both which is suprising since you get more cores (+2) 

[Oshino Shinobu]

Broadwell desktop is a waste and a mistake from Intel. People barely even know it exists, and it's expensive because there's very few of them I think.

 

5820K is the way to go over a 6700K, as the price is so similar. 

[itsmyjobtoknow]

Only reason Broadwell is so expensive is because it is so rare and there was never an official release for Broadwell processor on the desktop side.

 

Albeit, Broadwell is coming to almost every new laptop/notebook out there.

[Shoob]

The 5820K might be a bang for the buck but you need a LGA2011 mobo and they are more expensive. Broadwell desktop CPUs aren't selling really well, they just have a better iGPU which is meaningless for most people. 

[Tagiau]

The 5820K might be a bang for the buck but you need a LGA2011 mobo and they are more expensive. Broadwell desktop CPUs aren't selling really well, they just have a better iGPU which is meaningless for most people. 

The motherboards most people would buy for skylake are around the 200$ price range. The same can be said for some x99 motherboards that are good. 

[spyder]

Broadwell desktop is a waste and a mistake from Intel. People barely even know it exists, and it's expensive because there's very few of them I think.

 

5820K is the way to go over a 6700K, as the price is so similar. 

 

I only knew of it because of the intel's mobile cpu releases. I never thought Skylake would be out so quickly since Broadwell didn't even make it officially into the market for PC.

Only reason Broadwell is so expensive is because it is so rare and there was never an official release for Broadwell processor on the desktop side.

 

Albeit, Broadwell is coming to almost every new laptop/notebook out there.

That is very true for laptops.

 

The 5820K might be a bang for the buck but you need a LGA2011 mobo and they are more expensive. Broadwell desktop CPUs aren't selling really well, they just have a better iGPU which is meaningless for most people. 

Sadly I wish I could just go x99, damn mobo too expensive. Its not like I want the deluxe Asus board   really badly. 

[typographie]

I did a quick amazon search just randomly since that is the place where I get all my components (prime delivery). I took a look at the price of the 5775C. Why is it more expensive than the 6700K? and furthermore the 5820K seems to be the bang for the buck because its cheaper than both which is suprising since you get more cores (+2) 

 

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Broadwell-Core-i7-5775C-BX80658i75775C/dp/B00YAEA0U2

^^ It's not actually in stock. The one you see here is being sold by a third-party through Amazon. Third-parties often gouge prices horribly on out-of-stock items. Intel's MSRP for the i7-5775C boxed product is $377. It's still higher than the 6700K, but I think Intel is considering the Iris Pro 6200 worth a premium.

 

The 6700K is still not available in the U.S. from any retailers I'm checking, but the prices listed are still lower than the 5820K.

[spyder]

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Broadwell-Core-i7-5775C-BX80658i75775C/dp/B00YAEA0U2

^^ It's not actually in stock. The one you see here is being sold by a third-party through Amazon. Third-parties often gouge prices horribly on out-of-stock items. Intel's MSRP for the i7-5775C boxed product is $377. It's still higher than the 6700K, but I think Intel is considering the Iris Pro 6200 worth a premium.

 

The 6700K is still not available in the U.S. from any retailers I'm checking, but the prices listed are still lower than the 5820K.

Even though iGPU is slowly making improvements, why do intel feel the need to justify a higher price though. Its not like people will use it for rendering and stuff. Better get a proper card like Quadro/Tesla/FirePro.

 

heck I dont even know at what FPS you would get with the Iris pro. 

[typographie]

Even though iGPU is slowly making improvements, why do intel feel the need to justify a higher price though. Its not like people will use it for rendering and stuff. Better get a proper card like Quadro/Tesla/FirePro.

 

heck I dont even know at what FPS you would get with the Iris pro. 

 

It's rather impressive, actually. The Iris Pro 6200 in the Broadwell CPUs beats AMD's entire APU lineup by a wide margin. It's probably on the order of a discrete R7 250 or R7 250X, but that's just my estimate from the numbers.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9320/intel-broadwell-review-i7-5775c-i5-5675c/7

 

As a consequence of the inclusion of the Iris Pro graphics there's a huge 128 MB L4 cache on-die. Tech Report found it made the 5775C occasionally faster as a gaming CPU than any other Intel CPU in certain games.

 

The price might be justifiable in that it has some quantifiable value over the 6700K, but the problem is finding anyone who wants to pay it. If you're buying a high-end i7, you probably aren't using integrated graphics and you're probably going to spring for the slightly better IPC and overclocking features.

 

Edit: It's also possibly worth mentioning it's only got a 65 Watt TDP, but again, that's a "feature" that will be useful for an iMac. Not a proper gaming desktop. 

[spyder]

 

 

 If you're buying a high-end i7, you probably aren't using integrated graphics.

That is the key info right there, intel loves to charge for more cache on CPU. But nevertheless broadwell is like an unknown thing for desktops at the moment, I'll be suprised if I can snag one (staying on z97) down the line or might just pick up the 790K i7 depending on which is cheaper.