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From what I can see the Skylake contender (i5 6600k) is 15-22% better than i5 4690k. Plus there's the potential OC could prove to be significant but this argument goes both ways.

Now I'm not sure about your use case, but let's assume all you do is game. Even hasfresh won't bottle neck your 770. Throw in a 980Ti and you'll still won't be bottle necked. The way I see it, you have no reason to go into skylake unless you want the features that skylake brings. USB c, wake from voice, etc etc etc.

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Purchased a 1440p monitor and my hardware keeps up ok with it. Phenom II 965 and GTX 770.

 

So here's my dilemma:

The 1440p is obviously loading my CPU quite well and for quite some time i see it reaching 100% load often, too often.
Should I sit and gather moneyz for a skylake CPU+ socket 1151mobo+dd4 (i5-6600K looks awesome for the price) - OR gather moneys for a i5 4690k + mobo.
Either of those will be followed by an eventual GTX 980ti.
 
Thus - either pay up a bit more for a skylake CPU +1151 mobo+ ddr4 and have it "futureproof" (meaning - less need to upgrade down the line) OR upgrade to 4690k and mobo (less money to spend in the short run) but have to accept an inevitable upgrade in 2-3 years.
 
PS: The Phenom isn't OCed - so i might do it and get a tiny bit of performance from it.

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If it were me, I would go for the haswell refresh. But that's just me.

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If it were me, I would go for the haswell refresh. But that's just me.

That's why I made the topic - to get opinions ;)

 

Why would you get the haswell refresh?

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That's why I made the topic - to get opinions ;)

Why would you get the haswell refresh?

The gains from skylake over hasfresh aren't enough to garner it as a superior upgrade.

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The gains from skylake over hasfresh aren't enough to garner it as a superior upgrade.

From what I can see the Skylake contender (i5 6600k) is 15-22% better than i5 4690k. Plus there's the potential OC could prove to be significant but this argument goes both ways.

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From what I can see the Skylake contender (i5 6600k) is 15-22% better than i5 4690k. Plus there's the potential OC could prove to be significant but this argument goes both ways.

You need to get your eyes checked buddy. I'd suggest going for skylake just for the platform/chipset advantages.

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From what I can see the Skylake contender (i5 6600k) is 15-22% better than i5 4690k. Plus there's the potential OC could prove to be significant but this argument goes both ways.

Now I'm not sure about your use case, but let's assume all you do is game. Even hasfresh won't bottle neck your 770. Throw in a 980Ti and you'll still won't be bottle necked. The way I see it, you have no reason to go into skylake unless you want the features that skylake brings. USB c, wake from voice, etc etc etc.

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If it were me, I would go for the haswell refresh. But that's just me.

I still love how Intel didn't even try with that name :P I mean even Godaveri is more creative than Haswell Refresh

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Now I'm not sure about your use case, but let's assume all you do is game. Even hasfresh won't bottle neck your 770. Throw in a 980Ti and you'll still won't be bottle necked. The way I see it, you have no reason to go into skylake unless you want the features that skylake brings. USB c, wake from voice, etc etc etc.

Good argument. "I don't play games a lot - but when I do" *Spanish accent" id like them to run acceptably well.

Though I don't really need the new platform advantages.

 

Seems to me that quite a few people are pondering the same topic as I do with the advent of Skylake and the fail of AMD to bring a good enough CPU to keep me on their platform.

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Good argument. "I don't play games a lot - but when I do" *Spanish accent" id like them to run acceptably well.

Though I don't really need the new platform advantages.

Seems to me that quite a few people are pondering the same topic as I do with the advent of Skylake and the fail of AMD to bring a good enough CPU to keep me on their platform.

As I see it right now, nothing from AMD or Intel is worth upgrading to. Going back a release on Intel is still strong and worth the savings.

On a side note, unless you upgrade to the 980Ti soon, I would suggest waiting until the 1000 series releases next year. As you can see in my signature, I run haswell and a 770. I don't plan on changing cpus but I will be grabbing the new series from Nvidia.

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As I see it right now, nothing from AMD or Intel is worth upgrading to. Going back a release on Intel is still strong and worth the savings.

On a side note, unless you upgrade to the 980Ti soon, I would suggest waiting until the 1000 series releases next year. As you can see in my signature, I run haswell and a 770. I don't plan on changing cpus but I will be grabbing the new series from Nvidia.

So the CPU it settled then. Haswell Refresh it is.

 

Do you really think Nvidia would bring a strong-enough alternative to 980ti for the same price? It just looks so shexy at the moment...

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So the CPU it settled then. Haswell Refresh it is.

Do you really think Nvidia would bring a strong-enough alternative to 980ti for the same price? It just looks so shexy at the moment...

Let me ask you, did the 980Ti beat the 780Ti? There's no way the next one isn't going to do the same. Especially if you are going to upgrade to hasfresh now. Unless you get the money incredibly quickly you'll be getting your next GPU around that time anyways.

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Let me ask you, did the 980Ti beat the 780Ti? There's no way the next one isn't going to do the same. Especially if you are going to upgrade to hasfresh now. Unless you get the money incredibly quickly you'll be getting your next GPU around that time anyways.

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So the CPU it settled then. Haswell Refresh it is.

 

Do you really think Nvidia would bring a strong-enough alternative to 980ti for the same price? It just looks so shexy at the moment...

 

The *only* part of haswell refresh that is a bit crappy is if you need a lot of Disk IO (which for gaming you really dont) so its pretty much a no brainer over skylake (given its ~£100 Cheaper for CPU, Mobo and Ram). However, if Skylakes reverse hyperthreading rumours turn out to be true (and when supply catches up so itll be cheaper) there will be no reason not to buy it.

 

Pascal is supposed to have a massive performance upgrade over Maxwell (at least in compute) and should be out around march to april...

 

Also a 980 Pretty much holds even/beats a 780Ti and that was with a fairly small architectural boost. Pascal and Volta should be much better jumps.

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