Haswell refresh soldering

[Devendra95]

Does the haswell refresh cpus such as the core i5 4460 have soldering between the die and IHS? Or are they still using that thermal paste method?

[Thorium19]

Still using thermal paste, just a higher quality one at that.

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

i dont think intel is gonna be doing any soldering anytime soon :l

[souruser]

i dont think intel is gonna be doing any soldering anytime soon :l

 

They're soldering right now. Haswell-E.

[othertomperson]

i dont think intel is gonna be doing any soldering anytime soon :l

 

They do when the die design allows for it. You can't just solder if the design is such that applying solder would short.

[Devendra95]

Which why i wen't for 5820k, don't want any non solder crap

 

Makes me wonder if skylake is soldered to, i hope so, would be dumb if they did't.

bad news:     https://forum.teksyndicate.com/t/i7-6700k-still-using-poor-thermal-paste-between-die-heat-spreader/82325

[Devendra95]

Still using thermal paste, just a higher quality one at that.

Will the life expectancy shorten vs previous generations?

[Thorium19]

Will the life expectancy shorten vs previous generations?

 

No, so long as the cooling you use is adequate and you don't pump ridiculous volts through it then it shouldn't affect lifespan any more or less.

[Devendra95]

No, so long as the cooling you use is adequate and you don't pump ridiculous volts through it then it shouldn't affect lifespan any more or less.

thank you

[Devendra95]

i dont think intel is gonna be doing any soldering anytime soon :l

will the temps increase in the long run because of the thermal compound inside the IHS going bad?

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

will the temps increase in the long run because of the thermal compound inside the IHS going bad?

personally i would say yeah, delid would always be the best and reapply ur thermal paste once a half year or so, but then again intel did this on purpose to reduce overclocking and stuff... else why would they do such a thing as applying thermal paste instead of solder... the price difference isnt that much that its worth doing it...

 

i had better temps on a new 4690k then comparing it a year later..

 

90k(canyon cpus) was just changed in general with voltage regulator positions n stuff i think ( not sure about that ... just guessing now )

 

and they do have a better temp then 70ks   going from 70k to 90k i dropped around 10-15*C << with same oc's same voltages and same stock settings ^^

[0ld_Chicken]

Does the haswell refresh cpus such as the core i5 4460 have soldering between the die and IHS? Or are they still using that thermal paste method?

still thermal pasting on haswell refresh. I was under the impression that thermal interface material was improved in haswell refresh but like another said they added vrm's onto the chip lowering temps due to "cleaner" power and that's about it. I delidded my 4790k (and used non conductive thermal grizzly kryonaut instead of the conductive coolabs pro/ultra) and got about 12c-15c off of my 4.8 load temps

[FinestRyeBread]

bad news:     https://forum.teksyndicate.com/t/i7-6700k-still-using-poor-thermal-paste-between-die-heat-spreader/82325

Probably gonna be a Skylake refresh because of this

[Q..]

Which why i wen't for 5820k, don't want any non solder crap

 

Makes me wonder if skylake is soldered to, i hope so, would be dumb if they did't.

Skylake = crappaste