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Ditch
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Hey guys,

So recently I upgraded my GPU from a 7850 2GB to a GIGABYTE R9 390, but I'm not getting the performance I was expecting.

My parts are:

MOBO: Z77-D3H

CPU: i5-3570k @ 3.40GHz (Has been overclocked before)

PSU: CX 600W

I have read a lot of optimisation and benchmark guides, and my CPU should be more than capable to deal with GTA and other games, but I feel it is holding me back.

Is there a way I can check if my CPU is holding me back? Has anyone else had issues like this? I'm more than happy to elaborate about anything, just ask!

I hope you guys can help me. I'm losing the will to live here!!!!

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What performance are you getting, what settings do you have and what performance were you expecting? @Ditch

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390 should be good

Putting some OC back into that chip should help

and how much RAM if it's less than 8GB that might be the issue

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What performance are you getting, what settings do you have and what performance were you expecting? @Ditch

 

Well on mostly high settings with no MSAA and no advanced graphics enabled, but with grass on normal and no tessellation, I am only just about getting 60fps constant, with dips down to 50fps. I was expecting easy constant 60fps on high, and have seen it is possible through many YouTube videos.


Could you tell me how much ram you have?

 

8GB Ram!


390 should be good
Putting some OC back into that chip should help
and how much RAM if it's less than 8GB that might be the issue

 


Yeah I'm gonna reapply thermal paste to see if that makes a difference, perhaps my CPU is overheating.
I have 8GB ram, and should I OC the card?

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Well on mostly high settings with no MSAA and no advanced graphics enabled, but with grass on normal and no tessellation, I am only just about getting 60fps constant, with dips down to 50fps. I was expecting easy constant 60fps on high, and have seen it is possible through many YouTube videos.

Put shadows on Soft if you havent already.

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Will do. How does your system run the game? We have fairly similar systems, so it would be interesting to know how your pc is running it

With my 280x the game ran at 80fps with everything on high/very high, with my 970 it runs at near max 110fps

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See that's what I should be getting! There must be something up with my system because it's up to the task in terms of power!

Maybe do a clean installation of all your drivers, or a completely clean Windows install. Try to run some benchmarks like firestrike to compare with others.

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Isn't 390 around the same performance as GTX 970?

 

 

I had previously a 970 and it had a lot of issues with this game, I tried everything but I couldn't get the game stable.

 

Also GTA V eats a ram like crazy, the ram usage goes easily over 7 GBs.

 

Btw, what resolution are you using?

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Isn't 390 around the same performance as GTX 970?

 

 

I had previously a 970 and it had a lot of issues with this game, I tried everything but I couldn't get the game stable.

 

Also GTA V eats a ram like crazy, the ram usage goes easily over 7 GBs.

 

Btw, what resolution are you using?

 

I play on pretty high settings on my 3gb 780ti just fine at 1440p pretty much maxxed out (no AA or advanced settings) at 60fps

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With some drops I assume.

 

E: Noticed that you said No AA, it makes more sense now.

 

I might have 2x or something low on (I cant remember)

 

its pretty consistent, 

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@Ditch

 

For comparison; I'm running an i5-4570 @ 3.74 (baseclock @ 104) 8GB ram, and an R9 290 4GB with an OC of 1100/1500. Game settings at 1440p (VSR) mostly high/very high, no MSAA, FXAA on, grass on normal or high (can't remember) and some of the advanced settings on (shadows I think). I'm getting mostly 60fps or higher with the occasional dip into the 50's (mid 40's sometimes when things get crazy). Vram usage sits between 2.8-3.5GB. GPU usage is at 95-100% most of the time, CPU usage floats between 60-90%. 

 

What 390 did you go with? What are your GPU/CPU usage and temps while in-game?

 

One thing you could try is go into Catatyst Control Center, go to the performance tab on the left, and click on Overdrive. Bring the power limit to the max it will go (+50) (don't worry, it won't hurt the card at all) and then run the game and see if there's any improvement. What this will do is ensure the card stays running at it's max GPU/Memory clocks at all times while under load.

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@Ditch

 

For comparison; I'm running an i5-4570 @ 3.74 (baseclock @ 104) 8GB ram, and an R9 290 4GB with an OC of 1100/1500. Game settings at 1440p (VSR) mostly high/very high, no MSAA, FXAA on, grass on normal or high (can't remember) and some of the advanced settings on (shadows I think). I'm getting mostly 60fps or higher with the occasional dip into the 50's (mid 40's sometimes when things get crazy). Vram usage sits between 2.8-3.5GB. GPU usage is at 95-100% most of the time, CPU usage floats between 60-90%. 

 

What 390 did you go with? What are your GPU/CPU usage and temps while in-game?

 

One thing you could try is go into Catatyst Control Center, go to the performance tab on the left, and click on Overdrive. Bring the power limit to the max it will go (+50) (don't worry, it won't hurt the card at all) and then run the game and see if there's any improvement. What this will do is ensure the card stays running at it's max GPU/Memory clocks at all times while under load.

 

I went with the Gigabyte 390 SOC, and I just have a horrible feeling my CPU is holding me back. The i5-3570k should be more than fine to deal with gaming, and whilst I was just playing GTA both my CPu and GPU were at 100%...

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I went with the Gigabyte 390 SOC, and I just have a horrible feeling my CPU is holding me back. The i5-3570k should be more than fine to deal with gaming, and whilst I was just playing GTA both my CPu and GPU were at 100%...

 

Your CPU is definitely not holding you back. It's just as fast as my 4570 and you can OC it to be even faster, so yeah... ;)

 

GTA 5 is a very demanding game. The performance you're getting is on par with my 290, so I don't think there's anything wrong with your system. Just try what I suggested in Catalyst overdrive so it doesn't throttle back the GPU core clocks. 

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