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Computer Crashing (During games)

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Well, my computer crashed 2 times, whilst I was play games.

 

The first incident was when I was play Metro 2033: Redux. I was just playing then the screen froze, a loud screech was heard for a split second. I tried turning off my computer, wouldn't turn off after like 4 presses. So then I restarted it. Then it starting turning on and off, on and off, then turned on and booted me to my Windows login. Then everything was fine from then on.

 

Second incident was similar. A couple days after, I was playing Grand Theft Auto 5: The Lost And Dammed. Crashed, with the loud screech, but it wouldn't stop. Did the same thing I did last time it crashed, turned it off, a couple of times, didn't work. Restarted it, then did the exact same thing that happened last time.

 

Here's and easier view of it, in order:

 

First Incident:

>Playing Metro 2033: Redux

>Crashed

>Screen froze, loud screeching sound heard withing a split second

>Pressed the power button

>Nothing

>Press the power button

>Nothing

>Held the power button for a couple seconds

>Nothing

>Pressed the reset button

>Turned off

>Turned on

>Turned off

>Turned on

>Turned off

>Turned on

>Brought me back to Windows login screen

>Everything was fine then on

 

Second incident:

 

>Couple of days after

>Playing Grand Theft Auto 4: The Lost And Dammed

>Game crashes

>Screen froze, loud screeching sound wouldn't stop

>Pressed the power button

>Nothing

>Press the power button

>Nothing>Held the power button for a couple seconds

>Pressed the reset button

>Turned off

>Turned on

>Turned off

>Turned on

>Turned off

>Turned on

>Brought me back to Windows login screen

>Everything was fine then on

 

Yeah, I know, lots of useless info, sorry. Just got a little worried since this was my first PC build, so I just want to make sure nothing bad is happening. So yeah that was pretty much it. Yeah I just want an idea what could be wrong, and I'll do my own research what could be wrong. Thanks,  ;) .

 

PC specs (If wondering):

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258

GPU: Gigabyte G1 GTX 960

Motherboard: MSi H97 PC Mate

HDD:WD Green 2TB

SSD: Crucial BX100 250GB

PSU: EVGA 500B

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What about CPU temps? What kind of CPU is it and what kind of cooler does it have?

I'm not sure, I don't really check it's temps a lot. I would say around an average of 50 degrees Celcius. It's a Intel Pentium G3258, uses stock cooler, and not overclocked. Around 40 degrees Celcius when I'm just browsing the web, and around 60 degrees when gaming.

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I'm not sure, I don't really check it's temps a lot. I would say around an average of 50 degrees Celcius. It's a Intel Pentium G3258, uses stock cooler, and not overclocked. Around 40 degrees Celcius when I'm just browsing the web, and around 60 degrees when gaming.

 

I'm almost certain it's CPU temps them. Your CPU has a max TDP of 72C, which can easily be hit if you are using a stock cooler and letting it Turbo for long periods of time.

 

A stock cooler simply cannot effectively cool a modern CPU and should never be used. I would buy a fairly inexpensive rad like the Cooler Master Evo 220 (comes with fan) for under $40 and install it.

 

Make sure you have your own thermal paste (Artcic Silver costs $5).

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I'm almost certain it's CPU temps them. Your CPU has a max TDP of 72C, which can easily be hit if you are using a stock cooler and letting it Turbo for long periods of time.

 

A stock cooler simply cannot effectively cool a modern CPU and should never be used. I would buy a fairly inexpensive rad like the Cooler Master Evo 220 (comes with fan) for under $40 and install it.

 

Make sure you have your own thermal paste (Artcic Silver costs $5).

 

The TDP is measured in Watts, not Celsius. The G3258 has a TDP of 53W, which doesn't equate to a specific temp. The chip does specify a Tcase temp of 72C (upper limit at the heat spreader), but that's not the same as the CPU core temp that the digital sensor picks up. If anything, you should be able to run that CPU at 75-80 without any problems (although below 65 is preferable for longevity). Also, overheating would normally lead to throttling, not crashes. The stock cooler is perfectly adequate (if not 'great') for moderate use at stock speeds, but is fairly noisy and gets blown out of the water by pretty much any aftermarket cooler. I'm fairly certain it's quite illegal to sell a CPU with a completely ineffective cooler.

 

An overheating CPU doesn't appear to be an issue looking at the temps alone. Is the loud noise coming out of the PC case or the speakers? Might be worth checking that there aren't any fans getting snagged up inside the case. I wouldn't aim to replace anything until you're certain you've narrowed it down.

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The TDP is measured in Watts, not Celsius. The G3258 has a TDP of 53W, which doesn't equate to a specific temp. The chip does specify a Tcase temp of 72C (upper limit at the heat spreader), but that's not the same as the CPU core temp that the digital sensor picks up. If anything, you should be able to run that CPU at 75-80 without any problems (although below 65 is preferable for longevity). Also, overheating would normally lead to throttling, not crashes. The stock cooler is perfectly adequate (if not 'great') for moderate use at stock speeds, but is fairly noisy and gets blown out of the water by pretty much any aftermarket cooler. I'm fairly certain it's quite illegal to sell a CPU with a completely ineffective cooler.

 

An overheating CPU doesn't appear to be an issue looking at the temps alone. Is the loud noise coming out of the PC case or the speakers? Might be worth checking that there aren't any fans getting snagged up inside the case. I wouldn't aim to replace anything until you're certain you've narrowed it down.

The loud screeching noise comes from the speakers (my headphones). Yeah, I looked inside just to make sure any cables weren't getting hit from the fans. I, too, also think that overheating from my CPU is the problem.

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I'm almost certain it's CPU temps them. Your CPU has a max TDP of 72C, which can easily be hit if you are using a stock cooler and letting it Turbo for long periods of time.

 

A stock cooler simply cannot effectively cool a modern CPU and should never be used. I would buy a fairly inexpensive rad like the Cooler Master Evo 220 (comes with fan) for under $40 and install it.

 

Make sure you have your own thermal paste (Artcic Silver costs $5).

Well, I don't think that overheating from my CPU isn't the problem. Well, I do also plan on getting an aftermarket CPU cooler, most likely the Hyper 212 Evo

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"loud screeching sound" Try to press your keyboard with like all your fingers = try to overload the keyboard buffer. If it's the same sound, then it's that.

 

Just don't try to do that it at 3:13 AM, like I just did... ...wasn't me, neigbours. No no no.

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The TDP is measured in Watts, not Celsius. The G3258 has a TDP of 53W, which doesn't equate to a specific temp. The chip does specify a Tcase temp of 72C (upper limit at the heat spreader), but that's not the same as the CPU core temp that the digital sensor picks up. If anything, you should be able to run that CPU at 75-80 without any problems (although below 65 is preferable for longevity). Also, overheating would normally lead to throttling, not crashes. The stock cooler is perfectly adequate (if not 'great') for moderate use at stock speeds, but is fairly noisy and gets blown out of the water by pretty much any aftermarket cooler. I'm fairly certain it's quite illegal to sell a CPU with a completely ineffective cooler.

 

An overheating CPU doesn't appear to be an issue looking at the temps alone. Is the loud noise coming out of the PC case or the speakers? Might be worth checking that there aren't any fans getting snagged up inside the case. I wouldn't aim to replace anything until you're certain you've narrowed it down.

 

You're correct about TDP, I am just writing in shorthand. The manufacturer states that the chip is designed to run up to 72C, can it run hotter? Sure. But the problem OP describes is the same exact one I had with my old FX-8150. I used the stock cooler and it worked for a long time until I would get hard crashes during intensive gaming. When I checked my temps they were 10-15C below my processor's rated max. As a side note, throttling is only effective if you can dissipate the remaining heat under lower CPU power, which a stock cooler may not do, if you throttle too low, you can crash (which is what I believe is happening).

 

I am quite sure that putting a Cooler Master EVO 220 on that CPU will completely resolve this issue.

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You may well be correct, but I've had similar results from what turned out to be a faulty GPU (which probably isn't the case here). Which ever way you look at it, 60 degrees under load isn't screaming "overheating" to me. I suppose it isn't an exact science tho ;)

 

Might be worth just popping the side off the case during gaming and seeing if the system is more stable. It may at least highlight if it's heat/airflow related.

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You're correct about TDP, I am just writing in shorthand. The manufacturer states that the chip is designed to run up to 72C, can it run hotter? Sure. But the problem OP describes is the same exact one I had with my old FX-8150. I used the stock cooler and it worked for a long time until I would get hard crashes during intensive gaming. When I checked my temps they were 10-15C below my processor's rated max. As a side note, throttling is only effective if you can dissipate the remaining heat under lower CPU power, which a stock cooler may not do, if you throttle too low, you can crash (which is what I believe is happening).

 

I am quite sure that putting a Cooler Master EVO 220 on that CPU will completely resolve this issue.

You could be right. Now that I think of it, it could be overheating, for a variety of reasons that are too long to explain, since I do spend more than a couple hours playing performance intensive games. Even though it may or may not be overheating, I'm still going to get a aftermarket CPU cooler soon, possibly the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

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You may well be correct, but I've had similar results from what turned out to be a faulty GPU (which probably isn't the case here). Which ever way you look at it, 60 degrees under load isn't screaming "overheating" to me. I suppose it isn't an exact science tho ;)

 

Might be worth just popping the side off the case during gaming and seeing if the system is more stable. It may at least highlight if it's heat/airflow related.

Yeah, i'll give my PC a inside check when gaming, just to see if it could possibly over heating or something just isn't working right.

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Yeah, i'll give my PC a inside check when gaming, just to see if it could possibly over heating or something just isn't working right.

 

As Quinnbeast said, if you open your side panel and put a fan on it and do not experience the crash any longer, it's a heat issue and you should replace your stock cooler with an aftermarket option (the Cooler Master Evo being your best bang for buck IMO).

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As Quinnbeast said, if you open your side panel and put a fan on it and do not experience the crash any longer, it's a heat issue and you should replace your stock cooler with an aftermarket option (the Cooler Master Evo being your best bang for buck IMO.)

I didn't put a fan in it yet, but I will definitely do it once I get a an extra case fan, which will most likely be next week or so. Thanks for the advice though, you really helping me out with this problem  :)

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I didn't put a fan in it yet, but I will definitely do it once I get a an extra case fan, which will most likely be next week or so. Thanks for the advice though, you really helping me out with this problem  :)

 

You misunderstand me, the test is for a open case with an external fan just blow on it. The predominant theory is that your case heats up too much from its closer environment and your stock cooler can no longer adequately cool your processor.

 

An open case with a physical fan blowing into it will give us more info into what is going on.

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