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Thanks for all the responses.

Oddly I hadn't given rendering much thought.

 

I thought about that, I plan on buying another harddrive for that reason.

 

i have all my apps and games on my 1tb harddrive and i record to my 250gb secondary harddrive...i can record minecraft, crysis 3, battleifleld 3 and a lot more much more smoothly when using my secondary drive

 

this first vid is on my 1tb without the 250gb, you see i lagg a bit here and there...

 

 

now this is recording to my 250gb...no lagg spikes just smooth gameplay....

 

 

also get an i7 as you  will appreciate the quicker rendering times....

 

-Anubikai

I am kind of at a crossroads at the minute, I am at the final stages of planning my computer and I cannot decide to go with an i5 4670 or i7 4770.

 

I want to go with the i5 because it is cheaper but I also want to be able to record with OpenBroadcaster or maybe fraps.

 

So I was wondering how well the i5 would cope with doing recording compared to the i7.

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If you're recording gameplay I suppose you will be editing it, therefore I would go for the i7 option. i7 series processors have hyper threading which gives the user 4 physical cores and 4 virtual cores, 8 cores in total, which is better for heavy workload applications such as video editing. The i5 series of processors is more gaming oriented and will fall behind when editing video.

 

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The i7 will do better if the programs take advantage of hyper-threading.

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recording and getting good decent fps is mainly to do with hard drive speed , becuase it has to deal with massive bit rates writing to the drive i think , but i would go with the i7 because you will be wanting to render the recorded footage right? 

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dude an i5 is more than enough to record.....just make sure you dont record to the same harddrive your using as your os or application storage...

 

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Thanks for all the responses.

recording and getting good decent fps is mainly to do with hard drive speed , becuase it has to deal with massive bit rates writing to the drive i think , but i would go with the i7 because you will be wanting to render the recorded footage right? 

Oddly I hadn't given rendering much thought.

 

dude an i5 is more than enough to record.....just make sure you dont record to the same harddrive your using as your os or application storage...

 

-Anubikai

I thought about that, I plan on buying another harddrive for that reason.

CPU: i5 4430 PSU: XFX 550w Ram: 8gb Patriot Viper 1600mhz


Motherboard: MSI H87M-G43 Case: Fractal Design Define R4


SSD: 840 Evo 250gb, 512gb MX100 GPU: MSI GTX 980TI Gaming Cooler: Hyper 212 Evo

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Thanks for all the responses.

Oddly I hadn't given rendering much thought.

 

I thought about that, I plan on buying another harddrive for that reason.

 

i have all my apps and games on my 1tb harddrive and i record to my 250gb secondary harddrive...i can record minecraft, crysis 3, battleifleld 3 and a lot more much more smoothly when using my secondary drive

 

this first vid is on my 1tb without the 250gb, you see i lagg a bit here and there...

 

 

now this is recording to my 250gb...no lagg spikes just smooth gameplay....

 

 

also get an i7 as you  will appreciate the quicker rendering times....

 

-Anubikai

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Would this be an issue even on an SSD with good write speed?

 

yeah dont write to the ssd if your using fraps......that will kill it quicker than anything else out there.....modern hardrives are more than fast enough....

 

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SSD has limited write count so you might not want to record on that.

 

yeah dont write to the ssd if your using fraps......that will kill it quicker than anything else out there.....modern hardrives are more than fast enough....

 

-Anubikai

 

I am asking in terms of performance. If hard drives are more than fast enough then why do we need to make sure we use a seperate drive for recording.

Also the whole "SSDs will die if you write to them" is greatly exagerated when it comes to modern SSDs.

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why do we need to make sure we use a seperate drive for recording.

 

You can see why in general windows usage, copying/moving files from c:\ to c:\games will result in the drive having to do both reading and writing, increasing overhead to bring the overall reading or writing speed down.

Copying that same file to another drive will see drive one using 70-100% of its read speeds and wont have any writing data slowing that down, and drive two can fully utilize write speeds without reading data performance dropping it overall.

Single drives partitioned into two separate drives, still have slow speeds as well.

 

In the case of games. Windows needs its increment speed to keep chugging in the background, a game running needs both read and write speeds in real time, recording a huge datarate file from fraps will max out the drive, bring performance to a crawl in both game and system.

C:\Windows is running, You load a game from c:\Games, your recording software is set to record to c:\

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You can see why in general windows usage, copying one huge 10GB file from c:\ to c:\games will result in the drive having to do both reading and writing, providing enough overhead to bring the overall reading or writing speed down.

Copying that same file to another drive will see drive one using 70-100% of its read speeds and wont have any writing data slowing that down, and drive two can fully utilize write speeds without reading data performance dropping it overall.

Single drives partitioned into two separate drives, still have slow speeds as well.

Ok- so at the end of the day it's a lack of performance, even on modern hard drives- that was my point.

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Ok- so at the end of the day it's a lack of performance, even on modern hard drives- that was my point.

 

you have to look at this way....you were gonna buy an ssd to record to anyway....you plan on using fraps which does a crapton of writes which for whatever reason is bad for them as apparently they have limited writes or whatever also for the price of like 120gb ssds you can get 1tb hdds which are fast enough when they are only being written to and are not the location of the game or the os on them....just about any branded 1tb 7200rpm drive should be fine.....

 

-Anubikai

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