Skylake Underwhelming

[DarkSmith2]

I understand that and it isn't a bad motherboard, I used my region as a default because he didn't mention his region anywhere.

thats fine, ah i didnt mean  "bad" in that way. Just not top notch, you know?

i think lower/higher-end midclass would be politically correct i guess?

[FireFox]

thats fine, ah i didnt mean  "bad" in that way. Just not top notch, you know?

 

I didn't want it to sound like I'm arguing with you but at the moment it doesn't seem like Skylake is that viable with these prices which is annoying because I want a new platform and a 6700K. I just can't bring myself to do it right now.

[DarkSmith2]

I didn't want it to sound like I'm arguing with you but at the moment it doesn't seem like Skylake is that viable with these prices which is annoying because I want a new platform and a 6700K. I just can't bring myself to do it right now.

lol im in the same boat. Its to expansive right now. I hope it will get cheaper next month. Intel just shipped barely enough to release it.

But im sure the pricedrop will happen.

[typographie]

Skylake is boring if you've got Haswell, but then Haswell was boring if you had Ivy Bridge. Ivy Bridge was boring if you had Sandy Bridge. Skylake is only underwhelming if you expected it to break that tradition and actually be a major upgrade over the previous generation, which hasn't happened in many years.

 

More importantly, to someone still on Nehalem or Sandy Bridge, four or five years of those underwhelming upgrades finally makes Skylake a pretty big upgrade. The upgraded connectivity is pretty cool, too.

 

A 5820K is still an awful lot more expensive in the U.S. and could often be slower per-core than a higher-clocked 4790K, let alone a 6700K with IPC improvements.

[Bob Jim]

I have thought about that, I've thought about it extensively in fact, to the point where I can taste it.

 

I'm not comparing one specific component to the other, I'm comparing the whole platform and the X99 is cheaper right now.

In the UK the I7 6700K is £290, not £335... Why would you look at a single shop... Smh.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80662i76700k

[FireFox]

In the UK the I7 6700K is £290, not £335... Why would you look at a single shop... Smh.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80662i76700k

 

It was the first site that came to mind and also the only one in stock is £340. Hope that changes soon and it doesn't matter, at £290 it is only £4 cheaper than the 5820K, £20 or so and you get 6 hyperthreaded cores instead of 4. I know which one I'd get especially because of games going down the ''more threads'' route. X99 still seems better value.

[DarkSmith2]

It was the first site that came to mind and also the only one in stock is £340. Hope that changes soon and it doesn't matter, at £290 it is only £4 cheaper than the 5820K, £20 or so and you get 6 hyperthreaded cores instead of 4. I know which one I'd get especially because of games going down the ''more threads'' route. X99 still seems better value.

well until cpus will gain big performance boosts from utilizing 6 or more cores both cpus probably will be obsolete. There are games using more then 4cores allready, but in most cases they arent showing that this is an advantage over a faster IPC. And this probably wont even change with DX12.

"Starting with a look at CPU scaling on our fastest cards, what we find is that besides the absurd performance difference between DirectX 11 and DirectX 12, performance scales roughly as we’d expect among our CPU configurations. Star Swarm's DirectX 11 path, being single-threaded bound, scales very slightly with clockspeed and core count increases. The DirectX 12 path on the other hand scales up moderately well from 2 to 4 cores, but doesn’t scale up beyond that. This is due to the fact that at these settings, even pushing over 100K draw calls, both GPUs are solidly GPU limited. Anything more than 4 cores goes to waste as we’re no longer CPU-bound. Which means that we don’t even need a highly threaded processor to take advantage of DirectX 12’s strengths in this scenario, as even a 4 core processor provides plenty of kick."

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8962/the-directx-12-performance-preview-amd-nvidia-star-swarm/4

 

Good thing is, when the prices stay the 5820k is an option because you wont lose much gaming performance and get a multicore performance gain for editing and stuff instead.

 

But you'll indeed lose some gaming performance in comparison to a 6700k. The 6700k offers much lower framedrops and better frametimes and ofc noticable more frames per second if used on 1080p or lower (gets cutted more to gpu bottleneck on higher resolutions). If this is worth it for you, cant wait, and can live with a potential lower tiered board on x99 for the same price as a higher tiered z170 board, i guess its pretty safe to buy it.

 

Im personally really aware of hopping on the 5820k train, because mainly i dont need the multicore performance, I dont do anything where the 5820k would be more beneficial, both cpus do about the same when it comes to streaming, which i casually do sometimes. I dont do picture editing stuff or such things. And iam afraid that i lose to the sillicon lottery and get a chip that doesnt clock well/need way better cooling then i could potentially afford. This chip can get really hot.

 

But for no doubt a custom watercooled x99 rig with a 5820k/5930k/5960X and two GTX980ti/TitanX in SLI combined with a 1440p,144hz,gsync/4k monitor.

Sure i would take it. lol