Part Choosing

[LittleCarrot]

Hello There,

I plan on Water-Cooling my first solo build. I love that hard tubing. 

 

Here are the thing I choose:

• EK-KIT L360 (R2.0) [https://shop.ekwb.com/ek-kit-l360-r2-0]

             This Kit Contains:    

                                         - universal CPU water block: EK-Supremacy MX (incl. mounting- & thermal material)

                                         - radiator: EK-CoolStream PE 360 (Tripple)
                                         - radiator fan: EK-Vardar F3-120 1850rpm (3pcs)
                                         - water pump / reservoir unit: EK-XRES 100 DDC MX 3.1 PWM
                                         - tubing: EK-Tube ZMT Matte Black 15,9/9,5mm (2 meters)
                                         - compression fittings: EK-ACF Fitting 10/16mm Nickel (6 pcs)
                                         - coolant concentrate: EK-Ekoolant EVO Clear (100mL; for 1L of coolant)
                                         - additional pump holder (120mm fan hole pattern)
                                         - Y-cable splitter: EK-Cable Y-Splitter 3-Fan PWM (10cm)

                                         - ATX bridging plug 

• EK-FC Titan X - Acetal+Nickel [https://shop.ekwb.com/ek-fc-titan-x-acetal-nickel]

​Parts Needed: [Merchants: Amazon.com | EKWB.com | Performance-PCs.com]

• Hard Tubing
• Fittings
• Red Coolant                         

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

for first waterbuild recommended going normal tubing, just saying... if u really want hard tubing ask a friend with experience with watercooling

[LittleCarrot]

for first waterbuild recommended going normal tubing, just saying... if u really want hard tubing ask a friend with experience with watercooling

 

Could You help me choose those parts

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

Could You help me choose those parts

everything from ek is good, though about choosing parts id recommend u to let ur experienced watercooling friend pick those ( as hes the one going to build it then )... if u really wanna build hard tubing urself, pick with what u like the best ( just keep in mind if u go 3/8 tubing to get 3/8 fitting )

 

keep in mind not to go colored coolant... go with simple distilled water and add a coil of silver to ur reservoir ... if u want color just get colored tubing

 

aswell make sure everything has the perfect sizes and it all fits proper in ur case if ur going hard tubing... ( soft tubing just cut and done lol )

[LittleCarrot]

everything from ek is good, though about choosing parts id recommend u to let ur experienced watercooling friend pick those ( as hes the one going to build it then )... if u really wanna build hard tubing urself, pick with what u like the best ( just keep in mind if u go 3/8 tubing to get 3/8 fitting )

 

keep in mind not to go colored coolant... go with simple distilled water and add a coil of silver to ur reservoir ... if u want color just get colored tubing

 

Do you have any pics of hard colored tubing?

I am still going to build this.

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

Do you have any pics of hard colored tubing?

I am still going to build this.

my own personal build isnt custom water atm i build it for others ;x hehe

 

hard tubing looks better but its much more of a pain to setup

 

( not my rig or any i made )

 

http://cdn.overclock.net/b/b2/350x700px-LL-b2964564_20140115_195915.jpeg

 

just check at how nice the tubing looks   thats hard tubing... but keep in mind every size and everything has to fit exactly perfect with hard tubing ;x

[LittleCarrot]

my own personal build isnt custom water atm i build it for others ;x hehe

 

hard tubing looks better but its much more of a pain to setup

 

( not my rig or any i made )

 

http://cdn.overclock.net/b/b2/350x700px-LL-b2964564_20140115_195915.jpeg

 

just check at how nice the tubing looks   thats hard tubing... but keep in mind every size and everything has to fit exactly perfect with hard tubing ;x

how dose one know what elbow's need to be used. Keep in mind i am gonna build this in the define S?

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

how dose one know what elbow's need to be used. Keep in mind i am gonna build this in the define S?

i would recommend start playing with paper actually on this, check how u want ur loop exactly. see where u want the tubes to be, the rad the pump and res... see where ur going to want/need the elbows,  hard tubing is all about preparation(even the pros can fail at it ;x)... soft tubing u can just make on the go

 

short said, without extreme experience in water cooling u dont wanna get hardtubing within a few days... make great preparations to make sure everything will go good

[LittleCarrot]

i would recommend start playing with paper actually on this, check how u want ur loop exactly. see where u want the tubes to be, the rad the pump and res... see where ur going to want/need the elbows,  hard tubing is all about preparation(even the pros can fail at it ;x)... soft tubing u can just make on the go

 

short said, without extreme experience in water cooling u dont wanna get hardtubing within a few days... make great preparations to make sure everything will go good

 

So Buy Pc Parts (with ek kit and block), then buy fitting and tubbing

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

So Buy Pc Parts (with ek kit and block), then buy fitting and tubbing

get ur rad/blocks first make sure of their fitting compatibility , u might need converters depending on wich parts u choose, buy tubing and fitting just at the same time ( after ofcourse making the huge preparations for the hard tubing )

[LittleCarrot]

get ur rad/blocks first make sure of their fitting compatibility , u might need converters depending on wich parts u choose, buy tubing and fitting just at the same time ( after ofcourse making the huge preparations for the hard tubing )

 

Converters?! I gave the ek guy my specs, thats what he came up with.

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

Converters?! I gave the ek guy my specs, thats what he came up with.

wouldnt suprise me if u would need converters

 

btw me personalyl i wouldnt go with a single 360 rad with that width, go with a thicker rad ( if it fits the case ofc ) else go with a 360rad and a 120 on ur return path

 

im more of the dual 360 rads ,    besides that... i cant check the link u gave me of the set ( getting site error )

 

keep in mind dual 360rad is pretty overkill for cpu only(watch out with condensation ),  360 rad + 120 can work on cpu only

 

dont always go with what others preset for u, go with what u like the most urself just stick with high quality parts

[LittleCarrot]

wouldnt suprise me if u would need converters

 

btw me personalyl i wouldnt go with a single 360 rad with that width, go with a thicker rad ( if it fits the case ofc ) else go with a 360rad and a 120 on ur return path

 

im more of the dual 360 rads ,    besides that... i cant check the link u gave me of the set ( getting site error )

 

keep in mind dual 360rad is pretty overkill for cpu only(watch out with condensation ),  360 rad + 120 can work on cpu only

 

dont always go with what others preset for u, go with what u like the most urself just stick with high quality parts

 

I am geting a 360  Rad for gpu and cpu with budget of ~$400

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

I am geting a 360  Rad for gpu and cpu with budget of ~$400

cpu and gpu... dont go singlerad man go double else u wont get much performance due to the rad not able to handle heat dissipation

 

res > pump > rad > cpu > rad > gpu > res  would be optimal but depends on what u can and cant do aswell

 

( that would be perfect order but trust me that is in most cases not possible due to space or other issues , also if u take shorter loop = better in consideration , with 2 rad u can usually make longer loops without losing performance tho )

 

the pc from the pic looks like it has res > pump > gpu > cpu > rad > res

[LittleCarrot]

cpu and gpu... dont go singlerad man go double else u wont get much performance due to the rad not able to handle heat dissipation

 

res > pump > rad > cpu > rad > gpu > res  would be optimal but depends on what u can and cant do aswell

 

( that would be perfect order but trust me that is in most cases not possible due to space or other issues , also if u take shorter loop = better in consideration , with 2 rad u can usually make longer loops without losing performance tho )

 

the pc from the pic looks like it has res > pump > gpu > cpu > rad > res

 

so would two 120 rads work?

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

so would two 120 rads work?

too weak for cpu + gpu, a closed loop is always worse, but take a h100i for example custom loop is always much better but yeah... u get the point

 

u could go a single 360rad if u want but ul lose performance compared to 2 rads,     2x 360rad is always awesome for cpu + gpu, if it doesnt fit but u can fit a 360rad wit ha 240rad ... go with that instead  , if that doesnt fit just go with a 360 and a 120 =P

[LittleCarrot]

too weak for cpu + gpu, a closed loop is always worse, but take a h100i for example custom loop is always much better but yeah... u get the point

 

u could go a single 360rad if u want but ul lose performance compared to 2 rads,     2x 360rad is always awesome for cpu + gpu, if it doesnt fit but u can fit a 360rad wit ha 240rad ... go with that instead  , if that doesnt fit just go with a 360 and a 120 =P

 

Could I have a 360 for a two year period then get a second rad. My case is the Define S.

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

Could I have a 360 for a two year period then get a second rad. My case is the Define S.

sure just keep in mind to refresh ur loop once per half year to avoid any things growing in

[LittleCarrot]

sure just keep in mind to refresh ur loop once per half year to avoid any things growing in

 

Dose the define S support 2 360 Rads?

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

Dose the define S support 2 360 Rads?

Extensive water cooling support for a case of this size; housing radiators up to 420mm in the top and 360mm in the front

 

( dont go 420 and 360... thats friggen overkill lol ) go 2 360 at the most ( considering u are watercooling ur gpu/gpus aswell )

 

sure more rads is better but u gotta keep condensation in mind

[LittleCarrot]

Dose a 420 and 360 support Cpu and dual gpus?

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

Dose a 420 and 360 support Cpu and dual gpus?

u can put as many rads as u want... but u need to keep condensation in mind ( thats al lreally ) if u were to armaflex/make ur entire loop condensation free u could put 100rads in without issues ( theoretically )

 

2x 360 is already quite extreme and 1x 420 1x 360... maybe a little over the top

 

if u were to pick THIN(not too thin:P) radiators though... yeah u can do it... but thick radiators will be 100% overkill with 420 + 360 combo

[LittleCarrot]

u can put as many rads as u want... but u need to keep condensation in mind ( thats al lreally ) if u were to armaflex/make ur entire loop condensation free u could put 100rads in without issues ( theoretically )

 

2x 360 is already quite extreme and 1x 420 1x 360... maybe a little over the top

 

if u were to pick THIN(not too thin:P) radiators though... yeah u can do it... but thick radiators will be 100% overkill with 420 + 360 combo

 

I am gonna go with push or pull. not push-pull

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

I am gonna go with push or pull. not push-pull

if u go 2x 360 rad it wouldnt need pushpull for extra performance, in that case id just go pull to avoid dust in the rads