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lol I use Norton i still don't get what's so bad about it

 

it's quite expensive, I had it too and it was really good protections (although it did have some issues once or twice a year)

 

It annihilates CPU utilisation. It cooks them.

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like by how much

 

It uses 100%.

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Since when I have Norton and my cpu only sometimes even spikes to 100% and most of the time only when gaming and I only have a second gen core i3

 

I don't think anyone should or can recommend it. Have you tried playing games while a scan is running?

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why would you play games DURING a scan?

 

Why wouldn't you?

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because you can scan when you are not doing computer intensive tasks and because every antivirus scan in background reduce framerates

 

Mine runs fine. I'm not replying to this any more.

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Mine runs fine. I'm not replying to this any more.

OK, it's not supposed to be an argument, it just is supposed to be a friendly discussion, I know that you are not replaying, but if anyone is still reading and needs help, you can change how much of your memory can your antivirus use inside the settings.

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Norton has made improvements in recent years, it seems most security review sites don't recommend it.  

 

In Canada, our government intelligence agency was busted intercepting laptops from Dell and installing hardware to give them a backdoor to every laptop.  This kind of crap is totally unacceptable.

 

Governments have effectively deputized major ISPs and tech companies (including Google, Facebook, etc) and are forcing them to spy on users.  They've got these massive data centers to store and process all this data.  what are they doing with it?  Bad things, no doubt.  

 

This is not something we should passively brush off as no big deal.  We should all do our part to block as much of it as we can.  

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Norton has made improvements in recent years, it seems most security review sites don't recommend it.  

 

In Canada, our government intelligence agency was busted intercepting laptops from Dell and installing hardware to give them a backdoor to every laptop.  This kind of crap is totally unacceptable.

 

Governments have effectively deputized major ISPs and tech companies (including Google, Facebook, etc) and are forcing them to spy on users.  They've got these massive data centers to store and process all this data.  what are they doing with it?  Bad things, no doubt.  

 

This is not something we should passively brush off as no big deal.  We should all do our part to block as much of it as we can.  

Norton is quite good and blocks the most viruses, but it crash occasionally, and when I was searching for it I found sites recommending it, but I wouldn't recommend it to people who just want to install and forget, it also have quite some false positives.

about the government doing those things, is there anything we can really do?

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I love Kaspersky

I had an issue a while back while fixing a friends computer that had this one...

It kept using up 95+% of the CPU for no reason.

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If you want to keep the gov out, I've been told using TOR ontop of a VPN makes it quite difficult.

Nothing you can do about them seeing your website history though; they tap into the main lines and copy it over. Can't really block that too easily.

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If you want to keep the gov out, I've been told using TOR ontop of a VPN makes it quite difficult.

Nothing you can do about them seeing your website history though; they tap into the main lines and copy it over. Can't really block that too easily.

tor is not safe anymore, you can google it for the explanation.

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Nothing you can do about them seeing your website history though; they tap into the main lines and copy it over. Can't really block that too easily.

 

 

So?  I am 'five nines %' Soup on the web, I have used my real name on the very odd occasion though.  No doubt someone could 'join the dots' and figure out soup is "*** *******"" but why would they bother?  Likewise my internet history why would anyone care that I have watched half a dozen YT videos on cats visited a couple of tech forums and took part in a general knowledge quiz? Remembering that 'they' have to do some work to find this complete non event.

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So?  I am 'five nines %' Soup on the web, I have used my real name on the very odd occasion though.  No doubt someone could 'join the dots' and figure out soup is "*** *******"" but why would they bother?  Likewise my internet history why would anyone care that I have watched half a dozen YT videos on cats visited a couple of tech forums and took part in a general knowledge quiz? Remembering that 'they' have to do some work to find this complete non event.

I agree, really good point, and besides that antivirus can't protect you from your ISP seeing your history.

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So?  I am 'five nines %' Soup on the web, I have used my real name on the very odd occasion though.  No doubt someone could 'join the dots' and figure out soup is "*** *******"" but why would they bother?  Likewise my internet history why would anyone care that I have watched half a dozen YT videos on cats visited a couple of tech forums and took part in a general knowledge quiz? Remembering that 'they' have to do some work to find this complete non event.

 

 

I agree, really good point, and besides that antivirus can't protect you from your ISP seeing your history.

 

You guys are completely missing the point.  This "I have nothing to hide, so why should I care" mentality is the reason this is happening in the first place.  As Snowden said, they have setup what he deemed "turn-key tyranny".  It's not about looking for terrorists.  It's about knowing who you are, how you think, and what your level of resistance might be to every increasing levels of tyranny.  Just as Ann Frank of Nazi Germany, you are a criminal to these people.

 

The following article is long but well worth reading.  At the end the author gives some tips on how to avoid mass surveillance.

 

https://bananas.liberty.me/youre-a-criminal-in-a-mass-surveillance-world-how-to-not-get-caught/

 

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You guys are completely missing the point.  This "I have nothing to hide, so why should I care" mentality is the reason this is happening in the first place

 

The only point I was making was that it didn't matter if someone expended energy to see my web history.

 

I said NOTHING about all this government sponsored/run snooping which I do not like.

 

The initial question was what software will provide me with good (the best) security.  In amongst that was a question about should I use two anti virus progs.

To my mind if someone wants 'in to' your computer they will, all you can do is make it difficult , C.F. burglars and having good door locks.

Two anti virus progs is NOT a good idea as they will report each other put each other in quarantine etc.

They also take some power to run, if you are running two that is twice the FPS hit during scans etc

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but you can run an anti malware (like malwerebytes) and an antivirus

 

True , but two anti-virus progs is a no-no.

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malwerbytes isnt an antivirus,

 

For the avoidance of doubt, I NEVER said it was.

 

Hence the "true" you CAN run it with an anti-virus.  Seperate issue :- Running two anti-viruses together is a no-no

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