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Phanteks Enthoo Pro - PWM Hub

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Hello guys,

 

I will build a new rig for myself in few weeks and my case will be the phanteks enthoo pro.
As I will add two more fans at the top, I will have 5 fans in total :

  • 1x 200 mm front
  • 2x 140 mm top
  • 1x 140 mm rear
  • 1x Dark Rock 3

My motherboard will be a MSI Gaming 5, it come with 2 cpu_fan connectors and 3 chassis_fan.
I don't like to put the last fan into a cpu_fan as it will be scaled on CPU temp.

But the phanteks enthoo pro come with a PWM hub at the back of the case.

Source : http://www.phanteks.com/enthoo-pro.html

=> The PWM hub makes it possible to control all the connected fans (also 3-pin fans) with PWM function through 1 PWM connector and create a better cable management

 

I was just wondering how I can make things works.

Should I plug the 4-pin pwm hub into a cpu_fan connector? So I can control the fans which are plug into the hub?
Should I plug the sata power of the hub as well?

Please help me to make the best possible fans control.

Thanks guys.

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It should be on cpu header, i put mine on cpu op. 3 pins fans will be controled from a 4 pin fan in hub slot 1. I have 3 pin fans hooked up to it only and it doesn't read rpm. So if you only have one 4 pin fan put it on the hub.

If you mb have true pmw on more fan headers it will work there too. I don't recommend putting more than 3 maybe 4 fans per header because they normally only put out 1 amp.

It will come with instructions and some other goodies. Great case imo

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I've got an Enthoo Pro as well, and what I did is just connect my CPU cooler to the first CPU fan header, and the fan hub (with all the case fans attached to it) to the second fan header.

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I would put all the case fans on the hub, so you don't have extra wires running across the mobo.

I wanted to do that so I can see in Bios clearly the top and the rear fan individually, and all the top fans with the hub fan (on one cpu_fan connectors)

I don't care about extra wires, just want to have the best/easy settings in BIOS

 

@blackadder : Okay I'll go with that if it's fine, and I won't plug in the molex.

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I wanted to do that so I can see in Bios clearly the top and the rear fan individually, and all the top fans with the hub fan (on one cpu_fan connectors)

I don't care about extra wires, just want to have the best/easy settings in BIOS

 

@blackadder : Okay I'll go with that if it's fine, and I won't plug in the molex.

 

 

Why?  Case fans are supposed to be designed to work in concert.  Your temps should determine how much air they need to move.

 

I see you are risking negative air pressure... which, for cooling, is fine. :)

 

You can try the two 140mm in the front(intake) and have the 200mm as an exhaust.  You also have intakes on the bottom (I'm guess under the shroud), two 120mm or one 140mm.

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Why?  Case fans are supposed to be designed to work in concert.  Your temps should determine how much air they need to move.

You're right, but I don't want to overload with too many fans on the hub since it will take power from only one motherboard's cpu_fan connector.

 

 

I see you are risking negative air pressure... which, for cooling, is fine.  :)

I just want good dustless airflow, it was my first thoughts, but if I can use the hub fan with no problem, I can put fans everywhere it will be usefull.

I can add 2 more 120mm on the HDD cage, so I will have 3 pull in front, and 3 exhaust in top/rear.

What about that ?

 

 

You can try the two 140mm in the front(intake) and have the 200mm as an exhaust.  You also have intakes on the bottom (I'm guess under the shroud), two 120mm or one 140mm.

I get it now (just edited my post). So for you the best airflow will be :

- 2x 140mm front (intake)

- 1x 140mm bottom (intake)

- 1x 140mm rear (exhaust)

- 1x 200mm top (exhaust)

Is that right?

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You're right, but I don't want to overload with too many fans on the hub since it will take power from only one motherboard's cpu_fan connector.

 

 

I just want good dustless airflow, it was my first thoughts, but if I can use the hub fan with no problem, I can put fans everywhere it will be usefull.

I can add 2 more 120mm on the HDD cage, so I will have 3 pull in front, and 3 exhaust in top/rear.

What about that ?

 

 

You want to move the 200mm on the HDD cage? I don't see exactly what it'll looks like. Do you have any pictures of that? If not, don't worry you don't have to.

 

temps didn't change by much in my system, i added 4 120 fans to the stock. one on drive cage, 3 top as intake or exhaust dust didn't change much if any from positive to negative due to fan filter everywhere, just clean every month (smoker too). curently have 0 phantek fan inside, all cougar. the phanteks had good airflow but, made to much noise. i could of ran them at lower rpm and still been fine but, i like to fold or boinc alot so long term temps are a concern for me. o yes, as currently there are 8 fan in my  pc not including gpu, temps won't change much unless your room is crazy hot. 

also you still may be able to control 3 pin fan with a fan controller or motherboard software, they will kinda go of between 5ish volts (some) to 12 volts, like low,med,high. also you can set them to a set rpm so they run at that speed all the time. and only (2)120mm fits on the drive cages and the biggest for rear is 140mm. bottom will also be blocked by psu cover mostly so if you if you use it is a waste. bottom fan will also cool nothing and might even hurt because it will mess with the flow from the drive cage fans. 

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I get it now (just edited my post). So for you the best airflow will be :

- 2x 140mm front (intake)

- 1x 140mm bottom (intake)

- 1x 140mm rear (exhaust)

- 1x 200mm top (exhaust)

 

In principle, yes. However, I don't think you'll be able to fit the 200mm in the top. The manual says it's possible to fit a 200mm there, the product information on the Phanteks site says it's possible to fit a 200mm there, there's a cutout in the motherboard tray to accommodate a 200mm and there are screw holes there as well. However, for some bizarre reason those screw holes are threaded screw holes that will only accept case/drive screws. You won't be able to work fan screws through there unless you manually bore out those holes to be wider and lose their threading.

 

My setup, by the way and in case you're interested, is 1x200mm in the front as an intake, 2x140mm in the top as intakes, 1x140mm in the bottom as an intake and 1x140mm in the rear as the only exhaust. I've probably gone a bit overboard with the positive air pressure, but I quite like it this way...

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temps didn't change by much in my system, i added 4 120 fans to the stock. one on drive cage, 3 top as intake or exhaust dust didn't change much if any from positive to negative due to fan filter everywhere, just clean every month (smoker too). curently have 0 phantek fan inside, all cougar. the phanteks had good airflow but, made to much noise. i could of ran them at lower rpm and still been fine but, i like to fold or boinc alot so long term temps are a concern for me. o yes, as currently there are 8 fan in my  pc not including gpu, temps won't change much unless your room is crazy hot. 

also you still may be able to control 3 pin fan with a fan controller or motherboard software, they will kinda go of between 5ish volts (some) to 12 volts, like low,med,high. also you can set them to a set rpm so they run at that speed all the time. and only (2)120mm fits on the drive cages and the biggest for rear is 140mm. bottom will also be blocked by psu cover mostly so if you if you use it is a waste. bottom fan will also cool nothing and might even hurt because it will mess with the flow from the drive cage fans. 

Your build looks sweet, do you have any pictures of it somewhere? Would appreciate a lot :)

And how did you do it then? For plugging all the fans, what setup do you have for that?

Thanks again :D

 

 

In principle, yes. However, I don't think you'll be able to fit the 200mm in the top. The manual says it's possible to fit a 200mm there, the product information on the Phanteks site says it's possible to fit a 200mm there, there's a cutout in the motherboard tray to accommodate a 200mm and there are screw holes there as well. However, for some bizarre reason those screw holes are threaded screw holes that will only accept case/drive screws. You won't be able to work fan screws through there unless you manually bore out those holes to be wider and lose their threading.

 

Ok so forget the 200mm then, I can put 120/140mm instead?

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Your build looks sweet, do you have any pictures of it somewhere? Would appreciate a lot :)

And how did you do it then? For plugging all the fans, what setup do you have for that?

Thanks again :D

in my profile, i can snap a pic with all the cougars in, i haven't updated it in a bit. 

i have 4 fans hooked up to the hub all 120mm cpu_opt. cpu fan is on cpu_1. 3 140mm fans are hooked up to motherboard. i kinda broke the rule of no more than 3 fans per header but, you can do some math if you find out the max current draw for the fans. still im sure cpu_opt header will be the first to go.  also have the somewhat ugly orange fans from cougar. 

EDIT: galley updated with new fan pics

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in my profile, i can snap a pic with all the cougars in, i haven't updated it in a bit. 

i have 4 fans hooked up to the hub all 120mm cpu_opt. cpu fan is on cpu_1. 3 140mm fans are hooked up to motherboard. i kinda broke the rule of no more than 3 fans per header but, you can do some math if you find out the max current draw for the fans. still im sure cpu_opt header will be the first to go.  also have the somewhat ugly orange fans from cougar. 

If you could do that, so I can see what's your beast looks like now, it will be great :)

Interesting, thanks for that, I will try to put 3 fans on the hub, 3 fans on the motherboard, and the cpu fan on the motherboard too.

I can easily have 7 fans in my gaming case then.

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Ok so forget the 200mm then, I can put 120/140mm instead?

 

Yes, you can. You can mount three fans of either 120mm or 140mm diameter, or any combination thereof. It's really quite spacious up there, I think that if they made it just a little bit longer, you could probably fit a fourth 120mm, so three is going to fit with ease, and the screw holes are all present.

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@blackadder Thanks for the pictures! Would love to go with kinda same fans setup. Love it!

I see only 2 fans top, did I miss something or not?

I thought you told me you had 3 fans top, maybe I didn't look properly ^^'

 

whoops, you're  right, i forgot i put that on the cpu cooler (didn't do anything) they are still on the hub though. i had the phantek 140mm up there too at one point. 

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whoops, you're  right, i forgot i put that on the cpu cooler (didn't do anything) they are still on the hub though. i had the phantek 140mm up there too at one point. 

Right, it is on the cpu cooler :)

So, basically the 4 fans you plug on the hub, how can you control the speed/frequency?

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Right, it is on the cpu cooler :)

So, basically the 4 fans you plug on the hub, how can you control the speed/frequency?

with my cpu fan on the hub (4pin)it read rpm, it just goes off of my fan curve or did, i didn't think the ramped up all the time when they should. So i run them at a fix % now from gigabyte software around 1000 rpm. Of cpurse they went off cpu temp. Other programs like speedfan i believe you can do different things.
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with my cpu fan on the hub (4pin)it read rpm, it just goes off of my fan curve or did, i didn't think the ramped up all the time when they should. So i run them at a fix % now from gigabyte software around 1000 rpm. Of cpurse they went off cpu temp. Other programs like speedfan i believe you can do different things.

Okay, it's good enough for fans case.

Thanks :)

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