Entry level desktop suggestions.

[MrAnonymous]

So as stated on the title, i am looking for some help for an entry level gaming desktop. No need for the fancy OC or max settings on AAA (i wont be playing it on this system), just a simple,cheap but playable gaming desktop, that wont be obsolete in the next 4-5 years, since i wont be upgrading it within those years. I mostly play MMORPGs and MOBA. Noise is w.e. since i am going to get a pretty decent headphones (Takstar Hi2050) and i wont be putting the tower on the desk. As long as it doesnt heat up a lot it's ok for me. I have a budget of $1000 not a penny more (includes the monitor, OS, keyboard and mouse). So far the "prettiest" game that i'm planning to play are Blade and Soul, Black Desert and Warframe (also gonna play Sims 3 idk if that's relevant or not). I also want an SSD as a boot drive.

Thanks

[blueballs]

what country

[The Official Czex]

So as stated on the title, i am looking for some help for an entry level gaming desktop. No need for the fancy OC or max settings on AAA (i wont be playing it on this system), just a simple,cheap but playable gaming desktop, that wont be obsolete in the next 4-5 years, since i wont be upgrading it within those years. I mostly play MMORPGs and MOBA. Noise is w.e. since i am going to get a pretty decent headphones (Takstar Hi2050) and i wont be putting the tower on the desk. As long as it doesnt heat up a lot it's ok for me. I have a budget of $1000 not a penny more (includes the monitor, OS, keyboard and mouse). So far the "prettiest" game that i'm planning to play are Blade and Soul, Black Desert and Warframe (also gonna play Sims 3 idk if that's relevant or not). I also want an SSD as a boot drive.

Thanks

 

http://amzn.com/w/22XG2X5FCXL0K

[MrAnonymous]

what country

USA

http://amzn.com/w/22XG2X5FCXL0K

doesn't have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and OS. ik it's only around $600 for this one. but with those unmentioned it might go up $1000 real quick. this is great tho. thanks. I'll look more into it.

[Swndlr]

http://amzn.com/w/22XG2X5FCXL0K

no, just no...

[blueballs]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/th9ct6

[MrAnonymous]

no, just no...

i see... hmmm

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/th9ct6

out of my budget range if i add in the devastator gamer kit (as i said not more than $1000 (also including the tax and shipping)), also if i go for this MoBo do i need to update the BIOS? i dont really know how and i heard there's some risk to it. i am just looking for an entry level, ik i said i wont be upgrading and i dont want it to be obsolete within 4-5 years. but the GPU is a bit OP for the games that i would be playing (just imo, correct me if i am wrong). ill think about it tho. thanks

[blueballs]

you better save a bit more 

[manikyath]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/th9ct6

save up a bit more, and get this, with some MS mouse/keyboard combo.

[MrAnonymous]

you better save a bit more

i still wont change my budget in the future tho, since this is only entry level.

[KemoKa]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zx9ct6
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zx9ct6/by_merchant/

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($176.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($61.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Dual-X Video Card  ($229.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit)  ($87.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $921.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-13 20:23 EDT-0400

 

If you can't spend a penny over $1000...

[MrAnonymous]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zx9ct6

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zx9ct6/by_merchant/

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($176.98 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($61.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($49.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.98 @ OutletPC)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon)

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Dual-X Video Card  ($229.99 @ Amazon)

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ NCIX US)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit)  ($87.98 @ OutletPC)

Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($99.99 @ Amazon)

Total: $921.86

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-13 20:23 EDT-0400

 

If you can't spend a penny over $1000...

is a the PSU 500W CONTINUOUS or just MAX? is it enough for the power hungry 280x? also i forgot to mention, i am used to multi tasking and tab abuse, so wont AMD FX series be better? since they have more cores (useful for multitasking) and cheaper? also i would be playing a lot of MMORPGs, will the 4460 better? i would be in a game (i.e. town) with around 200-300 players at the same time (not all the time tho).

this build imo is the most suited for me as of this moment. ill look more into each components and specs. thanks ^~^

[KemoKa]

i still wont change my budget in the future tho, since this is only entry level.

Define "Entry level", because everyone here has seen a build for under $400 with a 290 and a Core 2 Quad Q6600, which is even to this day a pretty face-melting "entry-level" build, certainly several times more powerful than any run-of-the-mill you can buy at a retail store like Best Buy or Wal-Mart. You can build a kickass system, OS, monitor, peripherals and all for $1000.

[blueballs]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Bc4MYJ

[MrAnonymous]

Define "Entry level", because everyone here has seen a build for under $400 with a 290 and a Core 2 Quad Q6600, which is even to this day a pretty face-melting "entry-level" build, certainly several times more powerful than any run-of-the-mill you can buy at a retail store like Best Buy or Wal-Mart. You can build a kickass system, OS, monitor, peripherals and all for $1000.

no AAA games, not going to max all settings (prefer a >50 fps tho). and won't be obsolete for 4-5 years, i wont be upgrading it within those years, also won't hot (if possible). for this build those are my requirements. idk if that answers the "entry level" thing. but yeah those are the main things i am looking for.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Bc4MYJ

this seems to be great. not an overkill system too. but in your opinion do you think the 750Ti will still be able to play upcoming MMORPGs in low-medium settings at >45 fps? but this is awesome tho. thanks ^~^

[KemoKa]

is a the PSU 500W CONTINUOUS or just MAX? is it enough for the power hungry 280x? also i forgot to mention, i am used to multi tasking and tab abuse, so wont AMD FX series be better? since they have more cores (useful for multitasking) and cheaper? also i would be playing a lot of MMORPGs, will the 4460 better? i would be in a game (i.e. town) with around 200-300 players at the same time (not all the time tho).

this build imo is the most suited for me as of this moment. ill look more into each components and specs. thanks ^~^

As long as your power supply has good ratings and comes from a reputable brand, it should hold out continuously at 500W. It's certainly not going to like doing it, and it's not going to do it very efficiently, unless you have a Platinum-rated PSU (a good cheap one I would recommend is an Antec Earthwatts Platinum).

 

People have run dual 680s and nine hard drives off of a 600W power supply. Powering a measly single 280X and two drives on a 500W 80+ Bronze PSU is not gonna be a problem, you're not gonna be maxing it out by any stretch of the imagination, especially not with an 84W CPU.

Speaking of the CPU, in the past the FX series did make sense from a financial standpoint, but now that AMD has been sitting on the horrible pile of crap that is Bulldozer (the entire FX lineup) for around 3 years, Intel has brought the cost of its i5s down to the point where they make far, far more sense than the 8350. And yes, in some games you may get marginally better performance with an 8350 than an i5, but you can beat it in terms of gaming performance in most other games with a PENTIUM G3258 with some overclocking on the pentium. Say what you will about AMD, but that is just embarrassing. The i5-4460 is an all-round kickass part that many people have used in really powerful gaming rigs, and at the price that it's at, I would hop leaps and bounds around it if I didn't have my own 2600K already and wasn't interested in overclocking. The i5 will not let you down in any game, even the most CPU-intensive ones. If there's still any doubt, I can pull up some benchmarks. There are literally dozens of good charts showing the i3s and i5s beating the absolute shit out of even the 5GHz 9590. And not to mention that the FX series uses an old and deprecated chipset that doesn't even support PCIe 3.0. Epic fail. Don't buy it,

[KemoKa]

no AAA games, not going to max all settings (prefer a >50 fps tho). and won't be obsolete for 4-5 years, i wont be upgrading it within those years, also won't hot (if possible). for this build those are my requirements. idk if that answers the "entry level" thing. but yeah those are the main things i am looking for.

That's where the 280X will come in. It'll max out any game you're looking at playing for a looooooooong time, because mine (it's a 7970, but same thing) maxes out everything I play (Bioshock Infinite, Borderlands 2, etc).

[blueballs]

for the games you mentioned the 750ti will be fine for years 

[MrAnonymous]

As long as your power supply has good ratings and comes from a reputable brand, it should hold out continuously at 500W. It's certainly not going to like doing it, and it's not going to do it very efficiently, unless you have a Platinum-rated PSU (a good cheap one I would recommend is an Antec Earthwatts Platinum).

People have run dual 680s and nine hard drives off of a 600W power supply. Powering a measly single 280X and two drives on a 500W 80+ Bronze PSU is not gonna be a problem, you're not gonna be maxing it out by any stretch of the imagination, especially not with an 84W CPU.

Speaking of the CPU, in the past the FX series did make sense from a financial standpoint, but now that AMD has been sitting on the horrible pile of crap that is Bulldozer (the entire FX lineup) for around 3 years, Intel has brought the cost of its i5s down to the point where they make far, far more sense than the 8350. And yes, in some games you may get marginally better performance with an 8350 than an i5, but you can beat it in terms of gaming performance in most other games with a PENTIUM G3258 with some overclocking on the pentium. Say what you will about AMD, but that is just embarrassing. The i5-4460 is an all-round kickass part that many people have used in really powerful gaming rigs, and at the price that it's at, I would hop leaps and bounds around it if I didn't have my own 2600K already and wasn't interested in overclocking. The i5 will not let you down in any game, even the most CPU-intensive ones. If there's still any doubt, I can pull up some benchmarks. There are literally dozens of good charts showing the i3s and i5s beating the absolute shit out of even the 5GHz 9590. And not to mention that the FX series uses an old and deprecated chipset that doesn't even support PCIe 3.0. Epic fail. Don't buy it,

so no need to worry on the PSU (check)

that's one well detailed explanation. seems legit.

thanks a lot, ill keep in mind when i buy my components

That's where the 280X will come in. It'll max out any game you're looking at playing for a looooooooong time, because mine (it's a 7970, but same thing) maxes out everything I play (Bioshock Infinite, Borderlands 2, etc).

so would you say it's better to go for 280x than 750Ti?

for the games you mentioned the 750ti will be fine for years

roger that, thanks ^~^

[KemoKa]

so would you say it's better to go for 280x than 750Ti?

uhhh, hell yes. for your budget, unless you're more intent on saving money, a 280X will last far longer than a 750Ti. The Ti is a fantastic card for really tight budgets or low requirements for games, but even your MMOs and MOBAs will probably get harder to drive in the not-to-distant future. That and, perhaps you may end up wanting to get into more kinds of games. For that, you want a decently fast card, and the 280X is extremely good for the price.

[MrAnonymous]

uhhh, hell yes. for your budget, unless you're more intent on saving money, a 280X will last far longer than a 750Ti. The Ti is a fantastic card for really tight budgets or low requirements for games, but even your MMOs and MOBAs will probably get harder to drive in the not-to-distant future. That and, perhaps you may end up wanting to get into more kinds of games. For that, you want a decently fast card, and the 280X is extremely good for the price.

noted** thanks for all the infos. what do you think of this build?

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Jbygcf

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Jbygcf/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($176.98 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: MSI H97M-E35 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($61.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($48.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: OCZ ARC 100 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($80.00 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.75 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card  ($192.98 @ Newegg)

Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit)  ($94.88 @ OutletPC)

Monitor: Asus VX238H-W 23.0" Monitor  ($139.99 @ Newegg)

Keyboard: Cooler Master OCTANE Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $973.52

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-13 21:18 EDT-0400

should i go for ATX? should i lower the W for the PSU? can this go cheaper and still achieved the same power? do i need an extra fan for exhaust for the 280x? since it runs pretty hot.

[KemoKa]

noted** thanks for all the infos. what do you think of this build?

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Jbygcf

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Jbygcf/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($176.98 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: MSI H97M-E35 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($61.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($48.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: OCZ ARC 100 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($80.00 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.75 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card  ($192.98 @ Newegg)

Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit)  ($94.88 @ OutletPC)

Monitor: Asus VX238H-W 23.0" Monitor  ($139.99 @ Newegg)

Keyboard: Cooler Master OCTANE Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $973.52

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-13 21:18 EDT-0400

should i go for ATX? should i lower the W for the PSU? can this go cheaper and still achieved the same power? do i need an extra fan for exhaust for the 280x? since it runs pretty hot.

*Claps enthusiastically*

Looks excellent. I wouldn't worry about going ATX unless you want the extra PCIe ports. That PSU will be plenty. The only thing I would take out is the Seagate drive. Those have a reputation for... failing. Grab an HGST or a WD Blue, those tend to be more reliable. Other than that, a gold star from me.

Good luck on your build, dude!

[MrAnonymous]

*Claps enthusiastically*

Looks excellent. I wouldn't worry about going ATX unless you want the extra PCIe ports. That PSU will be plenty. The only thing I would take out is the Seagate drive. Those have a reputation for... failing. Grab an HGST or a WD Blue, those tend to be more reliable. Other than that, a gold star from me.

Good luck on your build, dude!

well, i dont think i am going to fully utilize it anyways, i jsut want it to be as cheap as i can and would last pretty long without upgrades. got it, going for the WD then since it's cheaper (i think).

thanks, i might get the components 2 weeks or a month from now.