should i continue overclocking?

[Mitrailleuse]

hello,

Right now my i5 4670K is running 4.2GHZ@1.24VCORE,uncore ratio 3.9 and didnt change anything else.(cooled by a H100i)temps are 65-75 under Aida64.

to get 4.3GHZ stable i need 1.32VCORE,should i go for it?

i am using the c states so im idling super low freqs and voltages,

and i usually play games 1-3 hours a day,so i dont think having a bit of a high vcore would hurt my chip life to much,right?

maybe there is something else in the bios that prevents me from getting to higher clocks at reasonable vcore?

complete rig is:

4670K

z87-xd3h

620w seasonic

gtx 660

8gb ram

 

[mvitkun]

have you tried messing with the LLC (Load Line Calibration/Control)?

 

also there really won't be much benefit from overclocking in games,unless the game is cpu bound.

and even if it's cpu bound the i5 4670K should be able to handle all games at 60+fps,given that you have  power enough gpu.

[Mitrailleuse]

have you tried messing with the LLC (Load Line Calibration/Control)?

 

also there really won't be much benefit from overclocking in games,unless the game is cpu bound.

and even if it's cpu bound the i5 4670K should be able to handle all games at 60+fps,given that you have  power enough gpu.

I am playing planetside 2 and arma 3 who are super-CPU bound games,

and the problem with planetside 2 that it is poorly optimized,it doesnt matter how good your CPU is,it will bottleneck you 99% of the times.

currently i am using Medium LLC,

but i didn't really understand the idea behind it,all i know is that Medium LLC adds a little more voltage about your fixed vcore,and that the higher you go the more additional voltage you get,i dont really understand how to use it.

from what i've seen there are other parmaters like cache voltage and PCh voltage and alot more stuff that i dont really understand.

[mvitkun]

I am playing planetside 2 and arma 3 who are super-CPU bound games,

and the problem with planetside 2 that it is poorly optimized,it doesnt matter how good your CPU is,it will bottleneck you 99% of the times.

currently i am using Medium LLC,

but i didn't really understand the idea behind it,all i know is that Medium LLC adds a little more voltage about your fixed vcore,and that the higher you go the more additional voltage you get,i dont really understand how to use it.

from what i've seen there are other parmaters like cache voltage and PCh voltage and alot more stuff that i dont really understand.

planetside 2 has bad optimization as you said....and unless you take the cpu to atleast 4.8ghz (1ghz above the stock turbo frequency) I doubt you'll see much improvement.

 

as for ARMA III I would assume it has imperfect optimization to say the least because it's still in beta,correct me if I'm wrong.

 

you really shouldn't mess with those other voltages,as far as I know LLC and cpu vcore are what you should focus on.

LLC fixes Vdroop where the voltage will randomly drop lower than you want it to be,causing BSODS.

To put it in a nutshell as best as I can,it increases the voltage when it drops more than it should under load to try to counteract vdroop. thus allowing stability where there otherwise could be none.

because nothing is perfect it can sometimes apply more than necessary,causing the voltage and heat output to go up.

 

LLC is more helpful the more vcore you add because as you add to the vcore the motherboard tends to have more trouble with keeping the power stable.

[Mitrailleuse]

planetside 2 has bad optimization as you said....and unless you take the cpu to atleast 4.8ghz (1ghz above the stock turbo frequency) I doubt you'll see much improvement.

 

as for ARMA III I would assume it has imperfect optimization to say the least because it's still in beta,correct me if I'm wrong.

 

you really shouldn't mess with those other voltages,as far as I know LLC and cpu vcore are what you should focus on.

LLC fixes Vdroop where the voltage will randomly drop lower than you want it to be,causing BSODS.

To put it in a nutshell as best as I can,it increases the voltage when it drops more than it should under load to try to counteract vdroop. thus allowing stability where there otherwise could be none.

because nothing is perfect it can sometimes apply more than necessary,causing the voltage and heat output to go up.

 

LLC is more helpful the more vcore you add because as you add to the vcore the motherboard tends to have more trouble with keeping the power stable.

Right now im 4.3GHZ@1.3Vcore LLC high

peak temps are 85C at AIDA64.

there is another thing i dont get - linus got 4.6GHZ with 1.2VCORE and 85 Peak temps,how come im getting same peak temps with a higher voltage?

should i try going for 4.4GHZ?i think i would need 1.35Vcore for that....

[Thunderjolt]

Right now im 4.3GHZ@1.3Vcore LLC high

peak temps are 85C at AIDA64.

there is another thing i dont get - linus got 4.6GHZ with 1.2VCORE and 85 Peak temps,how come im getting same peak temps with a higher voltage?

should i try going for 4.4GHZ?i think i would need 1.35Vcore for that....

It's all about the Silicone lottery. Some chips can OC better than others. If you can, Drop the voltage down until it gets unstable at 4.6 Ghz. I don't think you can though from what you have said though.

[Mitrailleuse]

It's all about the Silicone lottery. Some chips can OC better than others. If you can, Drop the voltage down until it gets unstable at 4.6 Ghz. I don't think you can though from what you have said though.

i would need like 1.45Vcore for 4.6....

[Thunderjolt]

i would need like 1.45Vcore for 4.6....

Sorry, I read that wrong. If you want to add the extra voltage you can for 4.4 Ghz. It's all up to you. 1.35 on the vcore is the highest you ever want to go to be honest.