what should i expect ? memory upgrade!

[Benielishackove]

Hey guys I just upgraded my rig from Corsair XMS3 4GB  DDR3 1333MHz C9 to Vengeance Pro Series 32GB DDR3 1600MHz C9 and I was wondering what should I expect from this upgrade ? 

 

any ideas ?

in gaming, video rendering ? I should notice an at least x2 improvement right as I was on single channel until I upgraded  

 

Asus z97 pro gamer

intel i7 4790k hd 4600 + evga gt610 1gb combo (they can work side by side in some app's)

and clean power from an ax860i

so the upgrade will be noticed right ?

btw ill get the airflow thing to cool them if I need to overclock a bit.

[linuxfan66]

That is awfully unbalanced and 2x yields never happen

[Guest]

Why the hell do you have an i7 with an AX860i and a fucking GT 610?

[Benielishackove]

That is awfully unbalanced and 2x yields never happen

very optimistic you are why you say that you mean I should not expect better performance or just being negative ?

[Benielishackove]

Why the hell do you have an i7 with an AX860i and a fucking GT 610?

I upgrade every pay check guys didn't get to the gpu yet  planning on a 970-980ti

[linuxfan66]

very optimistic you are why you say that you mean I should not expect better performance or just being negative ?

honestly. Anyone who expects a 2x yield is rarely asking for a feasable outcome as other factors prevent that...(*cough cough* sli)

[typographie]

in gaming, video rendering ? I should notice an at least x2 improvement right as I was on single channel until I upgraded

 

Well yes, you doubled your memory bandwidth, but there are way, way more factors influencing application performance than memory bandwidth. You might notice a near-doubling of performance in something like a finely-tuned memory benchmark. But in a real world game, your video card and CPU are going to limit performance before memory speed is even visible. Video rendering can be a bit more dependent on memory, but still your CPU is probably going to be dictating performance for the most part.

 

The capacity increase could affect performance, but only in cases where 4 GB was previously causing significant stuttering due to file swap. If that's helping, it should be obvious.

[ThomasD]

If you do video editing or image rendering you will probably see shorter processing times.  Otherwise about the only noticeable benefit you will get right now is being able to have more browser pages open.

 

My computer at work only has 4 GB of RAM and, with some websites, having only a couple pages of Chrome open brings everything to a grinding halt.

 

In time the benefits of that RAM will become apparent.  My i7 860 "only" has 8 GB, which was a "crazy" amount of RAM five years ago when I bought it.  Now 16 GB is becoming the standard.

 

Right now, if I had that much RAM, I'd consider setting up a ramdisk.

[Benielishackove]

If you do video editing or image rendering you will probably see shorter processing times.  Otherwise about the only noticeable benefit you will get right now is being able to have more browser pages open.

 

My computer at work only has 4 GB of RAM and, with some websites, having only a couple pages of Chrome open brings everything to a grinding halt.

 

In time the benefits of that RAM will become apparent.  My i7 860 "only" has 8 GB, which was a "crazy" amount of RAM five years ago when I bought it.  Now 16 GB is becoming the standard.

 

Right now, if I had that much RAM, I'd consider setting up a ramdisk.

 

 

Well yes, you doubled your memory bandwidth, but there are way, way more factors influencing application performance than memory bandwidth. You might notice a near-doubling of performance in something like a finely-tuned memory benchmark. But in a real world game, your video card and CPU are going to limit performance before memory speed is even visible. Video rendering can be a bit more dependent on memory, but still your CPU is probably going to be dictating performance for the most part.

 

The capacity increase could affect performance, but only in cases where 4 GB was previously causing significant stuttering due to file swap. If that's helping, it should be obvious.

thanks, I think what I meant to really ask is there any improvement in the design and tech between them xms3 vs Vpro didn't get so much info on them are they basically the same in every aspect except name ? 

[Benielishackove]

honestly. Anyone who expects a 2x yield is rarely asking for a feasable outcome as other factors prevent that...(*cough cough* sli)

[typographie]

thanks, I think what I meant to really ask is there any improvement in the design and tech between them xms3 vs Vpro didn't get so much info on them are they basically the same in every aspect except name ? 

 

Not really. The Vengeance brand is often rated for relatively higher frequencies, but 1600 MHz at CAS 9 is the same no matter what the product name is. There's a chance that higher-end memory may respond better to overclocking, but for all the reasons explained earlier memory overclocking is kind of a pointless thing to do these days.

[Benielishackove]

Not really. The Vengeance brand is often rated for relatively higher frequencies, but 1600 MHz at CAS 9 is the same no matter what the product name is. There's a chance that higher-end memory may respond better to overclocking, but for all the reasons explained earlier memory overclocking is kind of a pointless thing to do these days.

cool, thanks, so I got an xmp stable kit you mean rather then an OC kit I have noticed that my board clocks the xms3 at1328-1330 rarely at 1333 or more will the xmp profile let me go higher then 1600 ? (on the Vpro)

btw by higher I mean 16xx not more then 10-20mhz is expected but will it ?)

Edited May 29, 2015 by Benielishackove

[typographie]

cool, thanks, so I got an xmp stable kit you mean rather then an OC kit I have noticed that my board clocks the xms3 at1328-1330 rarely at 1333 or more will the xmp profile let me go higher then 1600 ? (on the Vpro)

btw by higher I mean 16xx not more then 10-20mhz is expected but will it ?)

 

I'm a little confused as to what you're asking, but basically the XMP profile will adjust the memory settings so they run at their rated specifications. A 1600 MHz kit will probably be detected by the motherboard as 1333 MHz initially, since I guess that's the memory controller's default, so you enable XMP for it to run at 1600 MHz.

[Benielishackove]

I'm a little confused as to what you're asking, but basically the XMP profile will adjust the memory settings so they run at their rated specifications. A 1600 MHz kit will probably be detected by the motherboard as 1333 MHz initially, since I guess that's the memory controller's default, so you enable XMP for it to run at 1600 MHz.

I meant to ask what are the benefits of ocing to lets say 1610-1620 ? will it still be stable ? can this be done auto by the mobo and the speed step or z97 or any other component tpu digi+vram epu ?  

[typographie]

I meant to ask what are the benefits of ocing to lets say 1610-1620 ? will it still be stable ? can this be done auto by the mobo and the speed step or z97 or any other component tpu digi+vram epu ?

There isn't really even much benefit to overclocking from, say, 1600 MHz to 1866 MHz. Again, unless memory is your system bottleneck (and that's overwhelmingly unlikely), overclocking it isn't going to make much difference in your applications. You'd probably see no difference whatsoever. Best just to turn on XMP mode and leave it at the advertised settings, in my opinion.

 

I've never overclocked memory on a Z97 system, but in general memory overclocking is done by adjusting the DRAM multiplier. Memory speeds are derived from a multiple of your CPU's base clock (BCLK). So I'm not sure it's even possible to land on such a small overclock as 1610-1620 MHz.

[Benielishackove]

There isn't really even much benefit to overclocking from, say, 1600 MHz to 1866 MHz. Again, unless memory is your system bottleneck (and that's overwhelmingly unlikely), overclocking it isn't going to make much difference in your applications. You'd probably see no difference whatsoever. Best just to turn on XMP mode and leave it at the advertised settings, in my opinion.

 

I've never overclocked memory on a Z97 system, but in general memory overclocking is done by adjusting the DRAM multiplier. Memory speeds are derived from a multiple of your CPU's base clock (BCLK). So I'm not sure it's even possible to land on such a small overclock as 1610-1620 MHz.

Idk now my mem runs at 1328-1330.9 and its rated at 1333 ?