First Gaming PC Build (Value)

[rakun]

Hello there! I'm pretty new in the PC Building scene, so I come forth seeking the help of the more experienced ones The PC I wanna build has an aim on value, while not necessarily meaning low budget, I'm willing to spend a bit more for better performance and the less prone to being obsolete in the next few years. Here are the parts I've picked so far:
 
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3vx8kL
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3vx8kL/by_merchant/
 
CPU: AMD FX-9590 4.7GHz 8-Core Processor  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($26.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($94.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($66.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($71.95 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB ACX Video Card 
Case: Thermaltake VL800P1W2N (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($47.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Amazon)

So I wanna know from you guys what can/should be upgraded or even downgraded if there's a option with better value for money and performance. Some notes I'd like to add are:

The CPU can also be a FX-8350, since it seems to have better reviews and a lower heat output, as I've seen reviews saying the 9590 requires liquid cooling for optimal performance.

I'm also very flexible in regards to the GPU, but I'd prefer to stay in the GTX 700 series.

[WoodenMarker]

What's the system being used for?

Why 700 series and such a large psu? Are you planning to sli? No ssd?

[CoolaxGaming]

The CPU is great for the price!

The 9590 is really good!

It has 8 cores and 5 ghz making it faster than a shit 4790k

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

TROOOlL

 

 

 

 

Change cpu to 4690k

[Zackslay3r]

Hello there! I'm pretty new in the PC Building scene, so I come forth seeking the help of the more experienced ones The PC I wanna build has an aim on value, while not necessarily meaning low budget, I'm willing to spend a bit more for better performance and the less prone to being obsolete in the next few years. Here are the parts I've picked so far:

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3vx8kL

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3vx8kL/by_merchant/

 

CPU: AMD FX-9590 4.7GHz 8-Core Processor  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($26.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($94.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($66.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($71.95 @ SuperBiiz) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB ACX Video Card 

Case: Thermaltake VL800P1W2N (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($47.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Power Supply: Corsair RM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Amazon)

So I wanna know from you guys what can/should be upgraded or even downgraded if there's a option with better value for money and performance. Some notes I'd like to add are:

The CPU can also be a FX-8350, since it seems to have better reviews and a lower heat output, as I've seen reviews saying the 9590 requires liquid cooling for optimal performance.

I'm also very flexible in regards to the GPU, but I'd prefer to stay in the GTX 700 series.

Only 2 questions.

 

1) Why a 8 core AMD? You would benefit from gaming more by having better cores rather than more cores. in terms of gaming performance. a 4690k will give you equal or better gaming performance than even the 9590.

2) What is restricting you from going into the 900 series?

[CoolaxGaming]

Also, change gpu to like a 280 or 280x?

[Hyp0xia]

The FX-9590 is such a worthless CPU, especially if you don't have some seriously beefy cooling on it and no, the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO does not constitute as serious cooling. Secondly, that motherboard is not rated to support the FX-9590 (220W TDP). Going with AMD, your native RAM speed is also higher than 1600MHz. I'd go for an 1866MHz kit. The GeForce GTX 760, meanwhile, is an outdated card and, unless you have it already, there's no reason not to get the GeForce GTX 960. I also suggest a higher quality power supply unit like a Seasonic 760XP2 or EVGA 750 G2. If you don't plan on running SLI, however, you don't need that much power.

[Adreyu]

absolutely change that cpu to a 4690k and get a better graphics card with the difference.

[cheeze_tartz]

The CPU is great for the price!              NOPE Don't get AMD

The 9590 is really good!

It has 8 cores and 5 ghz making it faster than a shit 4790k

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

TROOOlL

 

 

 

 

Change cpu to 4690k <<< 4690K instead!!

[rakun]

What's the system being used for?

Why 700 series and such a large psu? Are you planning to sli? No ssd?

Mostly gaming and other regular activities. I don't plan to SLI, at least not for now, and I'm not sure of the benefits of an SSD over the reliability of a HDD, I'm all ears to explanation

 

Only 2 questions.

 

1) Why a 8 core AMD? You would benefit from gaming more by having better cores rather than more cores. in terms of gaming performance. a 4690k will give you equal or better gaming performance than even the 9590.

2) What is restricting you from going into the 900 series?

1- Well I figured a faster CPU would benefit more the performance in counterpart to a 2GB GPU. Also, in regards to value building wouldn't AMD be more effective, since they are often sensibly cheaper?

 

2- Pricing. Where I live the prices for 900 series are very unfriendly compared to the 700 series.

[WoodenMarker]

Mostly gaming and other regular activities. I don't plan to SLI, at least not for now, and I'm not sure of the benefits of an SSD over the reliability of a HDD, I'm all ears to explanation

1- Well I figured a faster CPU would benefit more the performance in counterpart to a 2GB GPU. Also, in regards to value building wouldn't AMD be more effective, since they are often sensibly cheaper?

2- Pricing. Where I live the prices for 900 series are very unfriendly compared to the 700 series.

Ssd's are more reliable than hdd's for everyday usage due to the lack of fragility like hdd's. 

Where are you actually shopping/located?

[rakun]

Ssd's are more reliable than hdd's for everyday usage due to the lack of fragility like hdd's. 

Where are you actually shopping/located?

Should I get both then? Or a hybrid maybe?

I'm currently located in Brazil, but I could probably get some parts from the US, though I'm not counting on that

 

Also, answering your other question about the PSU, I used CoolerMaster's calculator and it gave me 616W, so I figured 750W would be a safe spot without overkilling it.

[Casperian]

Mostly gaming and other regular activities. I don't plan to SLI, at least not for now, and I'm not sure of the benefits of an SSD over the reliability of a HDD, I'm all ears to explanation

 I've had 2 HDD's fail in the time I've owned my boot drive. That boot drive is a 120GB intel that report 98% life after 2-3 years... SSD's truly are the beasts they are rumored to be, my friend.

 

I write and read a lot and tend to trash HDD's quickly, YMMV however but I don't use HDD's anymore.

[WoodenMarker]

Should I get both then? Or a hybrid maybe?

I'm currently located in Brazil, but I could probably get some parts from the US, though I'm not counting on that

Also, answering your other question about the PSU, I used CoolerMaster's calculator and it gave me 616W, so I figured 750W would be a safe spot without overkilling it.

Get both is you want the speed of a ssd and the capacity of the hdd. 

Can you link us to where you're shopping?

Psu calculators are generally unreliable. It's better to look at power draw benchmarks instead.

[Hyp0xia]

Here's some food for thought: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Hyp0xia/saved/jdbD4D

[rakun]

Get both is you want the speed of a ssd and the capacity of the hdd. 

Can you link us to where you're shopping?

Psu calculators are generally unreliable. It's better to look at power draw benchmarks instead.

These are the websites I'm using for reference

 

http://www.kabum.com.br/cgi-local/site/principal/home.cgi

https://www.balaodainformatica.com.br/

 

Looking for parts in the US I mostly just use Newegg

[WoodenMarker]

These are the websites I'm using for reference

http://www.kabum.com.br/cgi-local/site/principal/home.cgi

https://www.balaodainformatica.com.br/

 

Looking for parts in the US I mostly just use Newegg

So you're shipping from the US?

[rakun]

So you're shipping from the US?

Not my initial intention. It's risky and taxation is absurd, sometimes overcoming the price if bought nationally. It would only be an option for the smaller parts since they tend to go through customs usually unchecked, but they do like to catch electronics. I have friends that travel a lot so depending on the price difference it would be an option

[WoodenMarker]

Not my initial intention. It's risky and taxation is absurd, sometimes overcoming the price if bought nationally. It would only be an option for the smaller parts since they tend to go through customs usually unchecked, but they do like to catch electronics. I have friends that travel a lot so depending on the price difference it would be an option

Alright. The sites don't use dollars. What's your actual budget?

[Vegarg]

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/vegarg/saved/R74hP6

I threw this together real quick and I will explain my rationale on what I changed. I did some research on your case and it has AMD plastered all over it. Figured you would probably want some AMD components inside. This is why I didn't go with a 4690k. I changed board because of a combo discount. The G.skill ram is a little cheaper and also fits the AMD red and black theme. I put in a 120gb SSD for your operating system because it will be life changing. I also changed the brand of hard drive because I have had trouble with Seagate drives in the past, also it is cheaper. The r9 280x goes well with the AMD theme and is a solid value card. Finally, I put in the Corsair CX 600m because 600w should be good. It's also cheap and semi-modular to boot! My build isn't perfect, but I hope it can help!

 

Edit: I'm building this from the U.S. so this may be useless...

[Zackslay3r]

Mostly gaming and other regular activities. I don't plan to SLI, at least not for now, and I'm not sure of the benefits of an SSD over the reliability of a HDD, I'm all ears to explanation

 

1- Well I figured a faster CPU would benefit more the performance in counterpart to a 2GB GPU. Also, in regards to value building wouldn't AMD be more effective, since they are often sensibly cheaper?

 

2- Pricing. Where I live the prices for 900 series are very unfriendly compared to the 700 series.

 

1) While AMD has a lot more cores and there cores are faster, Intel's cores are a lot more efficient and give you better single core performances than AMD. you could honestly get a intel 4690k and a mobo for about only 10-20 bucks more and get a lot better gaming performance.

 

2) That is fair enough. What about getting a AMD graphics card? 

 

Also, I would recommended a SSD in you're build as well. something like a 850 EVO or a Kingston SSD will definitely increase performance of you're computer in terms of boot times and speed of which programs will open and run will DRAMATICALLY increase. as well as file transfer rate.

[Casperian]

Not my initial intention. It's risky and taxation is absurd, sometimes overcoming the price if bought nationally. It would only be an option for the smaller parts since they tend to go through customs usually unchecked, but they do like to catch electronics. I have friends that travel a lot so depending on the price difference it would be an option

If you have friends that travel, get them to take parts as hand luggage and claim back the tax(No idea that you guys call it in the US) on it, assuming you have this in the US. You might be talking about this however, in which case, its a good way of doing it.

[rakun]

Alright. The sites don't use dollars. What's your actual budget?

Right now use 1 USD = 3BRL

 

For the Brazilian websites, I'd go no higher than R$4000. Cost would be lower (~800-1000 USD) in the american ones but taxes and profits put the total cost a lil higher.

[rakun]

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/vegarg/saved/R74hP6

I threw this together real quick and I will explain my rationale on what I changed. I did some research on your case and it has AMD plastered all over it. Figured you would probably want some AMD components inside. This is why I didn't go with a 4690k. I changed board because of a combo discount. The G.skill ram is a little cheaper and also fits the AMD red and black theme. I put in a 120gb SSD for your operating system because it will be life changing. I also changed the brand of hard drive because I have had trouble with Seagate drives in the past, also it is cheaper. The r9 280x goes well with the AMD theme and is a solid value card. Finally, I put in the Corsair CX 600m because 600w should be good. It's also cheap and semi-modular to boot! My build isn't perfect, but I hope it can help!

 

Edit: I'm building this from the U.S. so this may be useless...

Thank you very much, not at all useless, all the help is appreciated! Since initially I put together a few AMD parts (the GPU was AMD before) and I liked the color scheme and the style of the case I went with it, I swear I'm not an AMD fanboy haha. I'm gathering as much info as you guys are giving me (very new to this stuff), so I'm definitely taking your build parts in consideration!

[Vegarg]

Since your budget is $800-1000 U.S., I made an updated build. http://pcpartpicker.com/user/vegarg/saved/R74hP6This build gives you the sapphire r9 290x which is more powerful, has another gigabyte of vram and is pretty damn sexy. To go along with this, I updated the power supply to handle the increased power consumption. The power supply is of a higher quality and is modular which makes building a lot easier. The only concern is that the sapphire tri-x card is really long. It may not fit a card this big. You also may want to do more research on the cooler. PcPartpicker is telling me that the hyper 212 evo might have trouble fitting.

[rakun]

1) While AMD has a lot more cores and there cores are faster, Intel's cores are a lot more efficient and give you better single core performances than AMD. you could honestly get a intel 4690k and a mobo for about only 10-20 bucks more and get a lot better gaming performance.

 

2) That is fair enough. What about getting a AMD graphics card? 

 

Also, I would recommended a SSD in you're build as well. something like a 850 EVO or a Kingston SSD will definitely increase performance of your computer in terms of boot times and speed of which programs will open and run will DRAMATICALLY increase. as well as file transfer rate.

If I do stick with an FX-8350, would and AMD GPU be a better go than a NVidia one then? The Build mr. Vegarg put together is looking very cool to me, but it's always nice to have a second opinion. As for the SSD I'm definitely sold on it

 

Since your budget is $800-1000 U.S., I made an updated build. http://pcpartpicker.com/user/vegarg/saved/R74hP6This build gives you the sapphire r9 290x which is more powerful, has another gigabyte of vram and is pretty damn sexy. To go along with this, I updated the power supply to handle the increased power consumption. The power supply is of a higher quality and is modular which makes building a lot easier. The only concern is that the sapphire tri-x card is really long. It may not fit a card this big. You also may want to do more research on the cooler. PcPartpicker is telling me that the hyper 212 evo might have trouble fitting.

Looks good enough. I may modify a few things, probably the case or the cooler, I still wanna decide a few of the components that are getting mixed reviews. As expected I'm seeing a lot of preference for Intel chips so I'll probably look more into the CPU, therefore deciding if the case goes or stays.