Need help $2500 amd build

John Luxston · April 12, 2015

Ok guys I need help building my new computer, I don't really know what parts will work best for what I need

The budget is $2500 US dollars. I will be gaming at 4k. I don't need windows or keyboards or things like that. Just the computer. The processor and graphics processor MUST be amd. Thank you all for your help, Linus community

spenser_l · April 12, 2015

If the video card has to be AMD, you should probably wait for the 300 series.

gazabi · April 12, 2015

Ok guys I need help building my new computer, I don't really know what parts will work best for what I need

The budget is $2500 US dollars. I will be gaming at 4k. I don't need windows or keyboards or things like that. Just the computer. The processor and graphics processor MUST be amd. Thank you all for your help, Linus community

May we know why it must be amd?

TheKDub · April 12, 2015

At $2500 I would NOT recommend going with AMD for the CPU, intel's processors are a much better choice.

You'll probably end up with a bottleneck from your CPU if you go with AMD for it, especially on more CPU-demanding titles.

John Luxston · April 12, 2015

May we know why it must be amd?

At $2500 I would NOT recommend going with AMD for the CPU, intel's processors are a much better choice.

You'll probably end up with a bottleneck from your CPU if you go with AMD for it, especially on more CPU-demanding titles.

I've always liked amd better, they have been in all of my past computers. My friend who got me into pc gaming recommend I get AMD because they are already at 9000 while Intel is only at 4000. The prices are much better also. The 8 core AMD one is very cheap

Comessy · April 12, 2015

It is a little odd to have an AMD cpu in a $2500 build. Intels i3s and i5s can perform better than even AMDs top cpus

Dzzope · April 12, 2015

Trollololol

If your not, do any research on benchmarks for your use and decide.. thats all I'm gonna say

gazabi · April 12, 2015

I've always liked amd better, they have been in all of my past computers. My friend who got me into pc gaming recommend I get AMD because they are already at 9000 while Intel is only at 4000. The prices are much better also. The 8 core AMD one is very cheap

Do you mean 9000 by the processor name like 9590 or 4790k? If you do, the higher the number doesn't necisarrily mean greater performance between cpu brands, maybe within the brand but not between AMD and intel. Intel cpus destroy amd ones, just letting you know.

TheSLSAMG · April 12, 2015

I've always liked amd better, they have been in all of my past computers. My friend who got me into pc gaming recommend I get AMD because they are already at 9000 while Intel is only at 4000. The prices are much better also. The 8 core AMD one is very cheap

You've always liked AMD better, but that doesn't mean they are better.

You are seriously biased to them for a larger number? That's like me saying the GTX 960 is way better than the R9 295x2 because it's 900 series vs 200 series. AMD's current CPUs run on a two year old architecture, they're slower than what Intel offered even back then.

I know it sounds like I'm being a fanboy here, but go look at any modern benchmark. Even i3s are pulling ahead of the FX 8350 for gaming.

As for GPUs, AMD are making fantastic GPUs right now, so I can't say anything bad on that front other than "get your damn power consumption down."

TheKDub · April 12, 2015

I've always liked amd better, they have been in all of my past computers. My friend who got me into pc gaming recommend I get AMD because they are already at 9000 while Intel is only at 4000. The prices are much better also. The 8 core AMD one is very cheap

Well clearly your friend knows very little.

Do NOT use model numbers as the only thing you're comparing, especially between brands or product lines, compare the performance, not the name.

If you're using a GPU, then the integrated graphics of the CPU don't matter at all either.

Just because some of AMD's 8 cores are cheap, does not mean they are amazing, when it comes to single-threaded tasks, my i5 4690K (4 core) destroys the fx 8350 which is one of AMD's top processors, and in multi-threaded tasks my i5 comes pretty close to the fx 8350.

AMD's processors have lots of weaker cores, whereas intel's processors have fewer more powerful cores.

John Luxston · April 12, 2015

Do you mean 9000 by the processor name like 9590 or 4790k? If you do, the higher the number doesn't necisarrily mean greater performance between cpu brands, maybe within the brand but not between AMD and intel. Intel cpus destroy amd ones, just letting you know.

He has a 4770k, but my current computer has a AMD a 5400 and it does very good in my games. They perform about the same so that's why I thought the number mean something. Doesn't the only thing that powers the game is the graphics processor?

DIV1D3 · April 12, 2015

I've always liked amd better, they have been in all of my past computers. My friend who got me into pc gaming recommend I get AMD because they are already at 9000 while Intel is only at 4000. The prices are much better also. The 8 core AMD one is very cheap

I'm sorry, but comparing the number in the name of processors between AMD and Intel is just hilarious.

Just because a 9590 is OVER 9000 doesn't mean it tops the 4790K, or even the 5690X. Tell your friend to know what he is talking about before he goes about spouting more bs lol.

I really am not sure what to say lol, please just look around in this subforum, and better yet watch Linus' build guides.

Comessy · April 12, 2015

He has a 4770k, but my current computer has a AMD a 5400 and it does very good in my games. They perform about the same so that's why I thought the number mean something. Doesn't the only thing that powers the game is the graphics processor?

The GPU is the main thing that runs the game, but the CPU is almost as important. Even if you have the best GPU in the world, your CPU can only do so much.

TheKDub · April 12, 2015

He has a 4770k, but my current computer has a AMD a 5400 and it does very good in my games. They perform about the same so that's why I thought the number mean something. Doesn't the only thing that powers the game is the graphics processor?

Is that the Athlon 64 x2 5400+ or the a6 5400K?

But for either one, they do not perform nearly the same, the i7 4770K absolutely destroys both of those processors in everything.

TheRunningOtaku · April 12, 2015

He has a 4770k, but my current computer has a AMD a 5400 and it does very good in my games. They perform about the same so that's why I thought the number mean something. Doesn't the only thing that powers the game is the graphics processor?

Honestly, in most games, you'll get bottlenecked by your CPU with that kind of budget. Get an i5.

I'm saying this even though I recently bought an AMD system (8350 + R9 290), because at this point in time AMD CPUs are much better for rendering and video editing/streaming than an i3 at the same price point, but if I were to look at purely gaming, any Intel CPU (even the i3s) would wreck my 8350.

John Luxston · April 12, 2015

Is that the Athlon 64 x2 5400+ or the a6 5400K?

But for either one, they do not perform nearly the same, the i7 4770K absolutely destroys both of those processors in everything.

It is the a6 5400. The one with the integrated graphics card

John Luxston · April 12, 2015

Honestly, in most games, you'll get bottlenecked by your CPU with that kind of budget. Get an i5.

I'm saying this even though I recently bought an AMD system (8350 + R9 290), because at this point in time AMD CPUs are much better for rendering and video editing/streaming than an i3 at the same price point, but if I were to look at purely gaming, any Intel CPU (even the i3s) would wreck my 8350.

Intel says that one only has 2 cores. AMD has 8 cores. Why is the Intel one better?

TheKDub · April 12, 2015

It is the a6 5400. The one with the integrated graphics card

Yeah, that doesn't stand a chance against the i7 4770K, or even my i5 4690K.

Poster · April 12, 2015

I will assume this is not a troll post and will be the first person to actually help you with what you're looking for instead of telling you not to go AMD. At 2500 you will be able to rock a sick system aside from the CPU. But you already know that from all the above posts! I personally would find this money not-well-spent, but to each their own! You might want to even go bigger with a 1200 or 1600W PSU.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-9590 4.7GHz 8-Core Processor ($297.14 @ Amazon)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Glacer 240L 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($134.88 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($174.99 @ Amazon)

Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($179.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($269.00 @ Amazon)

Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($124.99 @ Amazon)

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 295X2 8GB Core Edition Video Card ($704.99 @ NCIX US)

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Titanium) ATX Mid Tower Case ($117.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($229.99 @ Mwave)

Total: $2233.96

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-12 00:06 EDT-0400

spenser_l · April 12, 2015

Intel says that one only has 2 cores. AMD has 8 cores. Why is the Intel one better?

I can see why you might think the naming scheme/numbers have direct correlation with performance, but it's not that simple. Spend some time watching Techquickie videos and reading online to learn more about choosing computer components. Start with this one:

TheRunningOtaku · April 12, 2015

Intel says that one only has 2 cores. AMD has 8 cores. Why is the Intel one better?

Most games only use 2-4 threads. With an Intel CPU, that means that each core (if your CPU has 2 or 4 cores) is being used. On the AMD side, you're only using half the cores or less.

That means that for example if each Intel core can do 1000 calculations per second, and each AMD core can do 750 calculations per second (not actual figures), a program running on two threads can do 2000 calculations on an Intel CPU but only 1500 calculations on an AMD CPU. (However, in the real world that number is probably more like 1000 and 600 per core to be honest)

If you need more help, feel free to PM me! I can clarify if you want.

The benefit of an AMD CPU comes when you're doing something like video editing, as those programs can use up more than 8 threads. In that scenario, our Intel CPU can only perform 4000 calculations, whilst our AMD CPU can do 6000.