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Hi everyone, I'm attempting my first build and have been researching for about a month now. I posted a few times to get some feedback on my build and I've changed my build based on that. I wanted to get some final opinions on my build, or builds, so that I can get ready to start acquiring all the parts I need.

The feedback I got said that a Micro ATX build is a bad idea for airflow and future expandability, since in the future, I plan to water cool it. So I created both an ATX and a Micro ATX build. The reason I wanted a Micro ATX build was so that it was more portable and compact. Tell me your thoughts on both builds.

 

Micro ATX Build:

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CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($317.85 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($28.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z97M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($123.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Corsair Force LS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($124.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card  ($329.00 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($34.29 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair SP120 57.2 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($12.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair SP140 49.5 CFM 140mm  Fans  ($29.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair SP140 49.5 CFM 140mm  Fans  ($29.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus MX299Q 29.0" Monitor  ($401.32 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($214.95 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer Naga Epic Chroma Wireless Laser Mouse  ($109.34 @ Amazon)
Other: IC Diamond 24 Carat ($15.98)
Other: Corsair Obsidian Series 350D Top Magnetic Mesh Cover ($3.99)
Other: Swiftech 8-Way PWM Splitter Box - SATA ($9.95)
Total: $2377.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Mid ATX Build:

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CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($317.85 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($28.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-E ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Corsair Force LS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($124.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card  ($329.00 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 450D ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($34.29 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair SP120 57.2 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($12.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair SP120 57.2 CFM 120mm  Fans  ($21.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair SP140 49.5 CFM 140mm  Fans  ($29.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair SP140 49.5 CFM 140mm  Fans  ($29.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus MX299Q 29.0" Monitor  ($401.32 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($214.95 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer Naga Epic Chroma Wireless Laser Mouse  ($109.34 @ Amazon)
Other: IC Diamond 24 Carat ($15.98)
Other: Swiftech 8-Way PWM Splitter Box - SATA ($9.95)
Total: $2376.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Honestly stay away from Corsair. Those fans aren't great, and the rest are just a waste of money compared to the same products from competing companies, such as the RAM, SSD, and power supply. 

 

Get Kingston HyperX Fury RAM, ADATA SP900 SSD, and EVGA G2 power supply. Also don't get the 970 STRIX, get the Gigabyte G1 or EVGA FTW/SSC.

 

As for the case honestly it's not that huge of a deal. Even in mATX cases a custom loop can definitely be done well. The 350D is a great mATX case for water cooling, but I'd suggest the Fractal Arc Mini R2 instead.

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I think you are spending a bit too much.

i5-4690k @ 4.2GHz | Asus Radeon R9 290 DirectCU II | Hyper 212 EVO | ASRock Z97 Extreme3 | Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1866MHz, Corsair XMS 4GB | 850 EVO 250GB, random 1TB drive | Corsair 200R | EVGA SuperNOVA 750W | Rosewill RK-9000BR | Logitech G700s | Logitech G930 | ViewSonic VG2427wm, Dell S2209W, Dell S2009W

Dell Inspiron 3147

Latitude E5420, Samsung 840 EVO 250gb, 12gb RAM, 1600x900 display

Pentium G3258 @ 3.2GHz | WD Red 2TB x3 in RAID-Z, Crucial MX100 128GB(cache drive) | Fractal Design Node 304 | Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI | Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB | EVGA 500B

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So this is the core performance of your desired build:

 

$1410

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($320.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: PNY XLR8 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($104.86 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($65.29 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card  ($329.00 @ NCIX US)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($113.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1354.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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You have your monitor (display solution), cooling, keyboard and mouse to go still.  I am going with the Phanteks Enthoo Pro which has a 7 fan, fan hub controller in it already.  Gimme a sec...

 

 

 

Now I was able to squeeze in a 27" 4K IPS display and a secondary 27" 1080p display.  The RGB element on you keyboard is flashy, but it will get old/boring and is useless.  There are better mice than that Razer one.  I picked a great mouse G502, but if you want wireless, the G602 is really good for under $50... I have been using the G602 for about two months now.

 

$939

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Dell P2715Q 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($554.99 @ Adorama)
Monitor: LG 27MP33HQ 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($180.98 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Ultimate Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse  ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $920.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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So that leaves $100 (when compared to your build) to buy fans and thermal compound.

 

Now, by no means do I recommend my build... I do not think the 970 is ideal for 4K gaming... but you might not be only gaming.

 

For a "Gaming PC", I would grab a 144Hz 1080p TN, or an 60Hz 1440p IPS panel as my main display.  I would then grab a 1080p IPS panel for a secondary display.  That would take my build cost way down.

 

 

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You definitely want more space of you're water cooling, so the mid tower< build is a no-brainer. If you want slightly better airflow, however, you can consider getting a HAF case or the Fractal Design Define R5. Also what people said on the mATX builds depends on what you're buildng. In your case, you want to go with the ATX enclosure. No pun intended by the way :)

PC: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 @ 3.8GHz | EVGA RTX 2060 SUPER | MSI B350 Gaming Pro Carbon | G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB @ 3200MHz C14 | EVGA G3 650W

 

Laptop: 2023 Macbook Pro 16" - M2 Max | 64GB RAM | 1TB SSD

 

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This is a 980 with a 4K display.  This is ready for a second 980 if that day ever comes.

 

You don't need the Hyper 212 as a placeholder.  The stock fan will be fine.  Trust me, the 212 is not a quiet cooler.

 

$2354

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($320.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: PNY XLR8 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($104.86 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($65.29 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 980 4GB STRIX Video Card  ($549.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($113.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Dell P2715Q 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($554.99 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Logitech G710 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Logitech G602 Wireless Optical Mouse  ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2293.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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GTX 970 SLI build with a 1440p IPS display as the main:

 

$2456

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($320.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: PNY XLR8 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($104.86 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($65.29 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($329.00 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($329.00 @ NCIX US)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($113.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus VN248H 23.8" Monitor  ($135.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: BenQ GW2765HT 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($388.99 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Logitech G710 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Logitech G602 Wireless Optical Mouse  ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2371.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Seagate bearracudda is cheaper and you can get a larger one for the price

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Bang for your buck gaming setup:

 

$1827

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($224.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: PNY XLR8 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card  ($329.00 @ NCIX US)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($113.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: LEPA Vortex 12 PWM 63.9 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($10.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Acer GN246HL 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($236.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: ViewSonic VA2455Sm 60Hz 23.6" Monitor  ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech G710 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Logitech G602 Wireless Optical Mouse  ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1771.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Honestly stay away from Corsair. Those fans aren't great, and the rest are just a waste of money compared to the same products from competing companies, such as the RAM, SSD, and power supply. 

 

Get Kingston HyperX Fury RAM, ADATA SP900 SSD, and EVGA G2 power supply. Also don't get the 970 STRIX, get the Gigabyte G1 or EVGA FTW/SSC.

 

As for the case honestly it's not that huge of a deal. Even in mATX cases a custom loop can definitely be done well. The 350D is a great mATX case for water cooling, but I'd suggest the Fractal Arc Mini R2 instead.

I here what your saying with corsair, but everyone I've talked to had great experiences with corsair. As for the graphics card, that's exactly what I had in the first place! but someone made a huge deal about it and said I should switch to the Asus Strix  series.

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So this is the core performance of your desired build:

 

$1410

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($320.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Micro Center)

Memory: PNY XLR8 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($104.86 @ Amazon)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($104.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($65.29 @ Amazon)

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card  ($329.00 @ NCIX US)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon)

Power Supply: Antec 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($113.98 @ Newegg)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC)

Total: $1354.07

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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You have your monitor (display solution), cooling, keyboard and mouse to go still.  I am going with the Phanteks Enthoo Pro which has a 7 fan, fan hub controller in it already.  Gimme a sec...

 

 

 

Now I was able to squeeze in a 27" 4K IPS display and a secondary 27" 1080p display.  The RGB element on you keyboard is flashy, but it will get old/boring and is useless.  There are better mice than that Razer one.  I picked a great mouse G502, but if you want wireless, the G602 is really good for under $50... I have been using the G602 for about two months now.

 

$939

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Monitor: Dell P2715Q 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($554.99 @ Adorama)

Monitor: LG 27MP33HQ 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($180.98 @ Newegg)

Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Ultimate Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($94.99 @ NCIX US)

Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse  ($59.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $920.94

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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So that leaves $100 (when compared to your build) to buy fans and thermal compound.

 

Now, by no means do I recommend my build... I do not think the 970 is ideal for 4K gaming... but you might not be only gaming.

 

For a "Gaming PC", I would grab a 144Hz 1080p TN, or an 60Hz 1440p IPS panel as my main display.  I would then grab a 1080p IPS panel for a secondary display.  That would take my build cost way down.

The monitor, keyboard, and mouse are purely personal preference based. As for the cost of my build, it can defiantly be lowered by changing the RAM, power supply, and storage. I could even go to a 27" display that has the exact same design for half the cost. The case is also personal preference, but I do have to say that a lot of the cases that have been suggested to me are really great.

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Do you really need that CPU? It might not be completely worth it, unless you need the hyperthreading and stuff, but other then that, save yourself some money and go with an i5 4690k, going lower on that, and getting a better CPU cooler (even liquid all in one) could help you out-preform the i7 for cheaper. As well as better cheaper ram... 159 I think is too high (I BELIEVE.. I live in Canada so not sure bout 'murica)

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The monitor, keyboard, and mouse are purely personal preference based. As for the cost of my build, it can defiantly be lowered by changing the RAM, power supply, and storage. I could even go to a 27" display that has the exact same design for half the cost. The case is also personal preference, but I do have to say that a lot of the cases that have been suggested to me are really great.

 

So, to my original question (before I went all build-crazy on you):  What is this PC going to be used for?

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So, to my original question (before I went all build-crazy on you):  What is this PC going to be used for?

CAD design, gaming, photo editing, and web browsing. People say that you don't need that good of spec's to CAD, but believe me, if you have hundreds of parts open at once you'll be glad you got the extra performance.

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I changed the RAM to G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory, which dropped the price $50; and the keyboard actually costs $40 less than it says on PCPartPicker.

 

Try these:  http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f32400c11d16gxm

 

@rayschrantz  What is the reason you are going for a single extra wide monitor?  Would not a two monitor setup give you more screen space, more versatility and allow you to up the resolution on the main screen to 1440p?

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Try these:  http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f32400c11d16gxm

 

@rayschrantz  What is the reason you are going for a single extra wide monitor?  Would not a two monitor setup give you more screen space, more versatility and allow you to up the resolution on the main screen to 1440p?

I never really though about it. There is a 27" monitor with the same design that's half the cost, I guess I could get two of those instead of one 29" monitor. I'm just concerned about not having enough room on my desk since they're not wall mountable.

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I never really though about it. There is a 27" monitor with the same design that's half the cost, I guess I could get two of those instead of one 29" monitor. I'm just concerned about not having enough room on my desk since they're not wall mountable.

 

If you have the space, it might be the better option.

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Try these:  http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f32400c11d16gxm

 

@rayschrantz  What is the reason you are going for a single extra wide monitor?  Would not a two monitor setup give you more screen space, more versatility and allow you to up the resolution on the main screen to 1440p?

 

 

If you have the space, it might be the better option.

Do you think you could help me find a monitor that looks really nice and is wall mountable?

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Do you think you could help me find a monitor that looks really nice and is wall mountable?

 

Do you mean a vesa mount?

 

This would be an awesome main display:  http://www.ncixus.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&sku=98207&vpn=GW2765HT&manufacture=BenQ&promoid=1411

 

...but it is pricey.

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