Building my first rig.... Tips?

[DevilJagan]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VnqnK8

 

-What if I don't have space for my computer and I have carpet?

 

-My house is all carpet, where can I build it?

 

-Is the  inside of all cases metal?

 

-Can I get a ghz out if OC'ing a 4690k(how common is it?)

 

-How does the 4690k handle when using video recording software like fraps. I don't want to spend 1k on a computer and still get a performance hit?

 

 

Anythhing that can be added or changed?

[HmmR]

i think u should go for msi radeon 290 instead of xfx cards

 

the intel i5 is epic for recording rendering and gameing

[Fgtfv567]

You don't need 750W if you're not going to do SLI. Period.

I'd get a better CPU cooler than the 212 EVO if you're going to OC.

 

Questions:

-If you have to put it on the floor, make sure none of your fans are using the bottom intakes

-Get an electro static wrist strap and use that

-Oughta be...

-What 1 Ghz? All CPUs have at least 2, even the shitty ones. You should get like 4.5 Ghz, but all CPUs OC result differently even if it's the exact same model. So don't take my word for it.

-Should be fine

[iJarbus]

Hi, if by not enough space you mean to place the computer, carpet is OK as long as you raise the PC up a little bit, anything will do.

As for building it carpet isn't great but if you have nowhere elles make sure you have the power supply installed and plugged into the wall, with socket turned off, this will make it so that as long as you are touching the case you are grounded, just don't wear socks as well.

In every case I can think of, the inside is metal.

The i5 4690k is made for over clocking and you should definitely be able to get some extra speed out of it, if you have enough cooling. Just watch a video or read a guide on how to OC if you don't know how.

In all modern games you should be able to record with fraud fine, the i5 4690k has more than enough power to spare, you will get a small performance hit, but nothing big 1-5FPS max.

Just some general tips, pieces of advice;

Make sure you give your self enough time, 3-4 hours for the building if you realy want to take your time.

Don't forget the i/o shield, I've done it and its a pain in the ads to have to take out the MB.

Edit: just realised you included a PCPartPicker link, that cooler will be released enough for some mild over clocks. 750 watt a bit much if your not going to got cross fire. I then than that looks good.

[MrNoFro]

You don't need 750W if you're not going to do SLI. Period.

I'd get a better CPU cooler than the 212 EVO if you're going to OC.

 

Questions:

-If you have to put it on the floor, make sure none of your fans are using the bottom intakes

-Get an electro static wrist strap and use that

-Oughta be...

-What 1 Ghz? All CPUs have at least 2, even the shitty ones. You should get like 4.5 Ghz, but all CPUs OC result differently even if it's the exact same model. So don't take my word for it.

-Should be fine

I think he meant a 1 Ghz OC

[slightlyjaded]

Build on the kitchen bench, (very rarely is your kitchen a carpet floor.)

 

One consideration. NZXT phantoms are a bottom mount power supply. It has spacers to stop from killing your power supply if it gets choked, but it isn't optimal. I'd recommend flipping the PSU, and drawing air from inside the case. It might be a bit warmer, but the trade off is that you'll get better airflow out of it.

[Fgtfv567]

I think he meant a 1 Ghz OC

Oh. Well, OCing up to 4.5 shouldn't be too much of a bother.

[CostcoSamples]

That's a great looking build!  You will love it.  

 

You can build anywhere, just make sure you get an anti static wrist band!  Connect it to something that is grounded, or at the very least, something metal that is big.

 

The cm 212 is a good cooler, but you'll be running hot for daily use at 4.5 ghz with that cooler.  4.5 ghz is common for the 4690k, but not guaranteed.  

 

I agree with others who have said 750 watts is overkill.  500 to 600 is plenty.  There is no harm having 750 though, especially if it's a good quality unit like you've selected.

 

Tip:  be absolutely certain that RAM, GPU, PCI cards etc are fully seated into their slots!  sometimes it will click but not be fully seated.  don't be afraid to push on it, just don't go overboard.

[DevilJagan]

Thanks for the feedback guys, much more responses than I was expecting.

i think u should go for msi radeon 290 instead of xfx cards

 

 

I originally was going to get the Tri-X version from Sapphire, but the XFX card had some good reviews, and the option of a lifetime warranty. Since I plan to use the card for a good while it should come in handy.

 

You don't need 750W if you're not going to do SLI. Period.

I'd get a better CPU cooler than the 212 EVO if you're going to OC.

 

-What 1 Ghz? All CPUs have at least 2, even the shitty ones. You should get like 4.5 Ghz, but all CPUs OC result differently even if it's the exact same model. So don't take my word for it.

 

I meant getting a full 1GHz, overclock on my CPU, If I wanted to put in a second 290 down the line what wattage would I need? I got the extra power in my PSU just to be safe with future upgrades.(Sound cards, extra 290 etc.)

 

Hi, if by not enough space you mean to place the computer, carpet is OK as long as you raise the PC up a little bit, anything will do.

Edit: just realised you included a PCPartPicker link, that cooler will be released enough for some mild over clocks. 750 watt a bit much if your not going to got cross fire. I then than that looks good.

 

Any things I can cheaply use to raise it up? I also planned to flip the PSU so that the fan was blowing upwards. I added 2 120mm fans to help with the cooling, thoughh I'm still trying to determine what makes a fan intake or not.

Build on the kitchen bench, (very rarely is your kitchen a carpet floor.)

 

One consideration. NZXT phantoms are a bottom mount power supply. It has spacers to stop from killing your power supply if it gets choked, but it isn't optimal. I'd recommend flipping the PSU, and drawing air from inside the case. It might be a bit warmer, but the trade off is that you'll get better airflow out of it.

Won't go into detail,. but this is not an option. .

 

 

That's a great looking build!  You will love it.  

 

You can build anywhere, just make sure you get an anti static wrist band!  Connect it to something that is grounded, or at the very least, something metal that is big.

 

The cm 212 is a good cooler, but you'll be running hot for daily use at 4.5 ghz with that cooler.  4.5 ghz is common for the 4690k, but not guaranteed.  

 

I agree with others who have said 750 watts is overkill.  500 to 600 is plenty.  There is no harm having 750 though, especially if it's a good quality unit like you've selected.

 

Tip:  be absolutely certain that RAM, GPU, PCI cards etc are fully seated into their slots!  sometimes it will click but not be fully seated.  don't be afraid to push on it, just don't go overboard.

Any cooler that isn't much more but is just as good/silent as a 212 EVO?

[blackadder]

Before you hook everything up plug in your psu turn it off and touch it, you can't get anymore grounded than the psu. Have flashlight handy. Save your bread ties for cable management, do a dry run and plan out you cables. YouTube most likely has your parts with someone building there system you can follow, Linus also has a few. 1ghz could be a lot to ask for depends. And is releasing cards soon and prices will drop quick, wait if you can.

[slightlyjaded]

 

Any things I can cheaply use to raise it up? I also planned to flip the PSU so that the fan was blowing upwards. I added 2 120mm fans to help with the cooling, thoughh I'm still trying to determine what makes a fan intake or not.

 

 

 

Any cooler that isn't much more but is just as good/silent as a 212 EVO?

212 evo is pretty much the fan for that price point. It's been around for ages, it's indestructable, and most importantly. It just works. The 212 evo is going to struggle at 1 GHz overclock, it also isn't going to be in anyway silent when it's boosting up that high. The fans will need to be spinning at max rpm to even come close to keeping the cpu from frying itself.

 

The fan on any power supply is setup in pull. It pulls fresh air in to the PSU, and it's passively vented out the back. Hence the need to have fresh air into it. If you want it pulling air in from the bottom on carpet, drop it on a piece of plywood. cheap, but it will dent the carpet.

 

Most fan's these days are marked with an arrow indicating the direction of travel for airflow. If you've got it directing the wrong way, just unscrew it, and spin it around.  The most important thing IMO when setting up case airflow is pay attention to the direction of travel. Most cases are setup to draw fresh air in from the front, and bottom, and vent it out the back, and top, letting the fact that heat rises aid the heat dissipation. A side mount fan tends to pll fresh, unrestricted air in for your graphics cards to play with (if it's a blower/reference style cooler) or if it's an aftermarket cooler, you can also use it to pull hot air directly off the graphics card. Like all rules this is made to be broken, just set it up so that the fans work with each other, not against.

[Mistersprinkles]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VnqnK8

 

-What if I don't have space for my computer and I have carpet?

 

I don't understand the question. If you put a computer on carpet, which I would never do because of dust, make sure the powersupply is intake up, not intake down. Also make sure that you have no other bottom intakes.

 

-My house is all carpet, where can I build it?

 

Garage. Surely there is no carpet in the garage.

 

-Is the  inside of all cases metal?

 

Yes

 

-Can I get a ghz out if OC'ing a 4690k(how common is it?)

 

Yes. Pretty common. Expect 800Mhz as a more likely target. A better cooler than the 212 would be helpful in achieving a higher overclock.

 

-How does the 4690k handle when using video recording software like fraps. I don't want to spend 1k on a computer and still get a performance hit?

 

Pretty well. Obviously there is a CPU hit from FRAPS. You're better off getting a GTX 970 and using Shadowplay. 

 

Anythhing that can be added or changed?

 

See below

 

Transcend does not make great SSDs. Look at an Intel  730/530, Crucial MX100, Samsung 850 EVO. Supernova NEX is garbage compared to Supernova G2. $20 price difference. Rosewill does not make good parts. Go with a midrange TPLINK Wifi adapter.

[DevilJagan]

Before you hook everything up plug in your psu turn it off and touch it, you can't get anymore grounded than the psu. Have flashlight handy. Save your bread ties for cable management, do a dry run and plan out you cables. YouTube most likely has your parts with someone building there system you can follow, Linus also has a few. 1ghz could be a lot to ask for depends. And is releasing cards soon and prices will drop quick, wait if you can.

Is there a guide to have really good cable mangement? I plan to buy my own zipties and wanted some clean cables, but no idea how?

 

AMD is due to release new cards, but I don't think the prices are going to be too signifigant. If I could get my 290 for $200 that would be awesome, I would even consider crossfire, but I'll keep my fingers crossed, by next month I'll have all my funds ready to build, and after 10 years of gaming on a via/s3g unichrome IGP(It is so shitty I remmeber the name till this day.) and almost 2 years on a 650m it is time to play games on UlTRA 60 FPS.

[blackadder]

The cable management can be easy or hell depending on your case. I think you can get a 290 for 200, now when on sale. What cases are you getting?

[blackadder]

There are guides too, Linus has one on YouTube with ncix he's a lot younger.

[slightlyjaded]

Is there a guide to have really good cable mangement? I plan to buy my own zipties and wanted some clean cables, but no idea how?

 

linus in his previous incarnation.

 

 

Basicly, get the cables back against (or behind) the motherboard tray. Tidy is usually better. group your cables depending on where you want them to run, split them out from the group as needed.

Honestly the back of my motherboard tray looks a mess, but I've got a lot more components, and the front looks really fricking clean

[Happypap55]

My PC is very similar to this. Same CPU, cooler, GPU, and RAM.

I have a full GHz overclock on my 4690K. GPU is great. I have mine overclocked too.

3dmark site isn't working right now but it scores just under 10000 on it and runs 60fps very high on everything I've thrown at it (Besides some badly optimized games like DayZ and CoH2)

[slightlyjaded]

Something I didn't think of at the time, but some of the gigabyte extreme z97 boards are compatible with M.2 3rd gen*4. Something you may want to look into.

[iJarbus]

Any things I can cheaply use to raise it up? I also planned to flip the PSU so that the fan was blowing upwards. I added 2 120mm fans to help with the cooling, thoughh I'm still trying to determine what makes a fan intake or not.

You can use pretty much anything, in the past I've seen it done with bits of spare timber, children blocks, you could even use hardcover books if you get really desperate. pretty much anything flat that can support the weight of the PC will do fine.

[CostcoSamples]

The 212 is a good cooler and for sure the best value for that style of cooler.  I have a Noctua NH-12 that I bought 7 years a go.  I recently upgraded to the 4690k and noticed that mounting brackets it came with would not fit.  Noctua sent me the proper brackets for free.  The fan is 7 years old too and runs as quiet as the day I bought it.  You pay a lot more for Noctua, but the longevity and customer support is worth it IMO.  The ugly Noctua fans have a highly durable ball bearing, while the 212 has a cheap sleeve bearing.  sleeve bearing fans are fine for a couple years, but plan to replace them after 2 to 3 years.

 

If you are planning to do a 1ghz overclock for 24/7 use, I would increase your cooler budget.  You'll want a double tower style, like the Noctua NH-d15 or similar.  Alternatively, you can do a dual 120mm all-in-one liquid cooler (or bigger). Dual 140mm or tripple 120mm would be even better.  For sustained overclocks, you really want to keep it as cool as possible.

[DevilJagan]

Ok so I made some changes. I changed the 212 EVO to a Noctua d14, got a better wifi adapter. and upgraded the SSD, Crucial mx100 256 GB.

 

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