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I've got a ASUS N82J laptop that I'm trying to squeeze more battery life out of. As it stands I get maybe 1.5 hrs (always ate through a charge and I just got a new battery so I know that's not the issue). Link to the laptop on newegg.

 

Anyways, I've already throttled back the CPU, now I've looking to throttle back the GPU and lower it's power consumption, as anytime I watch a video, the battery charge percentage drops significantly.

 

What are my options here? What would work best for me?

 

Thanks in advance.

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I've got a ASUS N82J laptop that I'm trying to squeeze more battery life out of. As it stands I get maybe 1.5 hrs (always ate through a charge and I just got a new battery so I know that's not the issue). Link to the laptop on newegg.

 

Anyways, I've already throttled back the CPU, now I've looking to throttle back the GPU and lower it's power consumption, as anytime I watch a video, the battery charge percentage drops significantly.

 

What are my options here? What would work best for me?

 

Thanks in advance.

Use overclocking software in reverse and underclock the GPU (and lower the voltage as low as possible)

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Have you used CPU Park Control to enable parking and frequency scaling?

https://bitsum.com/parkcontrol/

Basically enable everything and move all sliders all the way to 0%.

 

As for your GPU, do you have integrated graphics on your laptop mobotherboard (chipset graphics)? Like Intel Graphics Media Accelerator or GMA? If so, you should be ustilizing that to save power.

Also try changing the settings on the nVidia control panel.

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The problem is that this is an nVidia product and scoring any nVidia product a "zero" is also highly predictive of the number of nVidia products the reviewer will receive for review in the future.

On 2015-01-28 at 5:24 PM, Victorious Secret said:

Only yours, you don't shitpost on the same level that we can, mainly because this thread is finally dead and should be locked.

On 2016-06-07 at 11:25 PM, patrickjp93 said:

I wasn't wrong. It's extremely rare that I am. I provided sources as well. Different devs can disagree. Further, we now have confirmed discrepancy from Twitter about he use of the pre-release 1080 driver in AMD's demo despite the release 1080 driver having been out a week prior.

On 2016-09-10 at 4:32 PM, Hikaru12 said:

You apparently haven't seen his responses to questions on YouTube. He is very condescending and aggressive in his comments with which there is little justification. He acts totally different in his videos. I don't necessarily care for this content style and there is nothing really unique about him or his channel. His endless dick jokes and toilet humor are annoying as well.

 

 

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Try going in windows power options and setting "PCI Express --> Link State Power Management" to "maximum power savings"

I have finally moved to a desktop. Also my guides are outdated as hell.

 

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Use overclocking software in reverse and underclock the GPU (and lower the voltage as low as possible)

Yeah, that's the plan. The question is, which one?

 

Have you used CPU Park Control to enable parking and frequency scaling?

https://bitsum.com/parkcontrol/

Basically enable everything and move all sliders all the way to 0%.

 

As for your GPU, do you have integrated graphics on your laptop mobotherboard (chipset graphics)? Like Intel Graphics Media Accelerator or GMA? If so, you should be ustilizing that to save power.

Also try changing the settings on the nVidia control panel.

I'll check out park control. Right now I'm using ASUS Power4Gear to throttle it back to 70% max utilization (turbo boost disabled of course)

 

I don't believe I have any integrated graphics, any way to double check? Go into bios, disable the discrete and see if I can boot? Don't recall seeing any integrated graphics options last time I was in the bios... EDIT: just checked, no options in bios

 

Try going in windows power options and setting "PCI Express --> Link State Power Management" to "maximum power savings"

Already done.

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You can check "Display Adapters" in Device Manager.

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The problem is that this is an nVidia product and scoring any nVidia product a "zero" is also highly predictive of the number of nVidia products the reviewer will receive for review in the future.

On 2015-01-28 at 5:24 PM, Victorious Secret said:

Only yours, you don't shitpost on the same level that we can, mainly because this thread is finally dead and should be locked.

On 2016-06-07 at 11:25 PM, patrickjp93 said:

I wasn't wrong. It's extremely rare that I am. I provided sources as well. Different devs can disagree. Further, we now have confirmed discrepancy from Twitter about he use of the pre-release 1080 driver in AMD's demo despite the release 1080 driver having been out a week prior.

On 2016-09-10 at 4:32 PM, Hikaru12 said:

You apparently haven't seen his responses to questions on YouTube. He is very condescending and aggressive in his comments with which there is little justification. He acts totally different in his videos. I don't necessarily care for this content style and there is nothing really unique about him or his channel. His endless dick jokes and toilet humor are annoying as well.

 

 

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Your laptop chipset (Intel HM55) does have integrated graphics, but it looks like it has been disabled.

Read this discussion for more information: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/does-hm55-have-switchable-graaphics.500554/

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The problem is that this is an nVidia product and scoring any nVidia product a "zero" is also highly predictive of the number of nVidia products the reviewer will receive for review in the future.

On 2015-01-28 at 5:24 PM, Victorious Secret said:

Only yours, you don't shitpost on the same level that we can, mainly because this thread is finally dead and should be locked.

On 2016-06-07 at 11:25 PM, patrickjp93 said:

I wasn't wrong. It's extremely rare that I am. I provided sources as well. Different devs can disagree. Further, we now have confirmed discrepancy from Twitter about he use of the pre-release 1080 driver in AMD's demo despite the release 1080 driver having been out a week prior.

On 2016-09-10 at 4:32 PM, Hikaru12 said:

You apparently haven't seen his responses to questions on YouTube. He is very condescending and aggressive in his comments with which there is little justification. He acts totally different in his videos. I don't necessarily care for this content style and there is nothing really unique about him or his channel. His endless dick jokes and toilet humor are annoying as well.

 

 

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Your laptop chipset (Intel HM55) does have integrated graphics, but it looks like it has been disabled.

Read this discussion for more information: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/does-hm55-have-switchable-graaphics.500554/

 

How kind of ASUS to disable the integrated graphics, guess they reserve the ability to switch between discrete on power and integrated on battery for their higher end/ROG series of notebooks, nice...

 

Thanks for the link, will check it out.

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How kind of ASUS to disable the integrated graphics, guess they reserve the ability to switch between discrete on power and integrated on battery for their higher end/ROG series of notebooks, nice...

 

Thanks for the link, will check it out.

It's actually Intel's fault. They didn't have working drivers which support switchable graphics at the time of release so OEMs had to disable the option and block access to the feature in the BIOS. More about it in the link.

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The problem is that this is an nVidia product and scoring any nVidia product a "zero" is also highly predictive of the number of nVidia products the reviewer will receive for review in the future.

On 2015-01-28 at 5:24 PM, Victorious Secret said:

Only yours, you don't shitpost on the same level that we can, mainly because this thread is finally dead and should be locked.

On 2016-06-07 at 11:25 PM, patrickjp93 said:

I wasn't wrong. It's extremely rare that I am. I provided sources as well. Different devs can disagree. Further, we now have confirmed discrepancy from Twitter about he use of the pre-release 1080 driver in AMD's demo despite the release 1080 driver having been out a week prior.

On 2016-09-10 at 4:32 PM, Hikaru12 said:

You apparently haven't seen his responses to questions on YouTube. He is very condescending and aggressive in his comments with which there is little justification. He acts totally different in his videos. I don't necessarily care for this content style and there is nothing really unique about him or his channel. His endless dick jokes and toilet humor are annoying as well.

 

 

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It's actually Intel's fault. They didn't have working drivers which support switchable graphics at the time of release so OEMs had to disable the option and block access to the feature in the BIOS. More about it in the link.

 

I didn't read every post but it seems they're in deeper then I want to go with the codeing and such.

 

Also from the thread:

 

No, the quad core Clarksfield i7s physically lack the integrated graphics chip. There's no way to hack non-existent hardware into existence

I've got the i7-740qm, so I might just be SOL on the integrated side :(

 

 

 

Sooooo, best software for throttling GPU?

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I've got the i7-740qm, so I might just be SOL on the integrated side :(

Just to clarify, your laptop motherboard chipset contains the integrated GPU, not the CPU. Yes the 740QM doesn't have integrated graphics, but newer generation CPUs have the graphics chip built directly into the CPU instead of the chipset, hence the confusion. Just to clarify.

 

From the thread:

 

There is additional hardware required
to run the IGP over the GPU. And like said before if it had such hardware that would have been advertised with the laptop. Just having a processor with an IGP does not mean your laptop can use it.

It must had that additional hardware implemented.

Another time I hear this- and it's still not true clear.png

HM55 is used for switching only and there's no additional hardware needed. Chipset switches between dedicated GPU (ATI 5650 in case of AS 7740) and Intel HD video in Core i3/i5.

Aspire 7740G and 5740G (I own the latter) were introduced just after Radeon HD5650 and Core i3/5/7 series had been made available. In press releases for both of these switchable graphics were mentioned but ended up absent in specs and final product.

As user of this forum (who works for Acer) explained- Intel at that time had no working drivers for switching graphics so Acer had to disable the feature and block access to it in BIOS even though they already designed both notebooks with HM55 instead of cheaper PM55 that has no support for switchable graphics. Features that are untested and/or not working can't be included in the final product.

Acer Aspire 5740 and 7740 (without G) use Intel HD Video included in Core i3/i5 paired with HM55- so it works both ways it's just switching between them that got disabled thanks to Intel being late.

 

Yeah you're out of luck. Try MSI Afterburner or EVGA Precision X and see what you can do.

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The problem is that this is an nVidia product and scoring any nVidia product a "zero" is also highly predictive of the number of nVidia products the reviewer will receive for review in the future.

On 2015-01-28 at 5:24 PM, Victorious Secret said:

Only yours, you don't shitpost on the same level that we can, mainly because this thread is finally dead and should be locked.

On 2016-06-07 at 11:25 PM, patrickjp93 said:

I wasn't wrong. It's extremely rare that I am. I provided sources as well. Different devs can disagree. Further, we now have confirmed discrepancy from Twitter about he use of the pre-release 1080 driver in AMD's demo despite the release 1080 driver having been out a week prior.

On 2016-09-10 at 4:32 PM, Hikaru12 said:

You apparently haven't seen his responses to questions on YouTube. He is very condescending and aggressive in his comments with which there is little justification. He acts totally different in his videos. I don't necessarily care for this content style and there is nothing really unique about him or his channel. His endless dick jokes and toilet humor are annoying as well.

 

 

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Just to clarify, your laptop motherboard chipset contains the integrated GPU, not the CPU. Yes the 740QM doesn't have integrated graphics, but newer generation CPUs have the graphics chip built directly into the CPU instead of the chipset, hence the confusion. Just to clarify.

Right, but no one in the thread seemed to have much luck accessing and then using the on board graphics and with none integrated into the i7, I'm pretty much completely SOL for going that route.

 

Yeah you're out of luck. Try MSI Afterburner or EVGA Precision X and see what you can do.

Guess I'll start with MSI Afterburner and go from there.

 

 

Thanks for the help!

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No problem. Good luck. :)

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The problem is that this is an nVidia product and scoring any nVidia product a "zero" is also highly predictive of the number of nVidia products the reviewer will receive for review in the future.

On 2015-01-28 at 5:24 PM, Victorious Secret said:

Only yours, you don't shitpost on the same level that we can, mainly because this thread is finally dead and should be locked.

On 2016-06-07 at 11:25 PM, patrickjp93 said:

I wasn't wrong. It's extremely rare that I am. I provided sources as well. Different devs can disagree. Further, we now have confirmed discrepancy from Twitter about he use of the pre-release 1080 driver in AMD's demo despite the release 1080 driver having been out a week prior.

On 2016-09-10 at 4:32 PM, Hikaru12 said:

You apparently haven't seen his responses to questions on YouTube. He is very condescending and aggressive in his comments with which there is little justification. He acts totally different in his videos. I don't necessarily care for this content style and there is nothing really unique about him or his channel. His endless dick jokes and toilet humor are annoying as well.

 

 

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Alright, so I downloaded MSI Afterburner and the only sliders availble to me are core clock speed and memory clock speed. The core voltage is grayed out.

 

Now knowing that the speed and volt scale while in use vs at idle, would underclocking and lower the core clock in turn prevent the core volts from ramping up as much too? OR, will it just sense load and max to it's default like usual despite the lower core clock?

 

 

Also any tips/guideline to underclocking? I've never underclocked before, is it the same as overclocking only working in the opposite direction?

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Alright, so I downloaded MSI Afterburner and the only sliders availble to me are core clock speed and memory clock speed. The core voltage is grayed out.

 

Now knowing that the speed and volt scale while in use vs at idle, would underclocking and lower the core clock in turn prevent the core volts from ramping up as much too? OR, will it just sense load and max to it's default like usual despite the lower core clock?

 

 

Also any tips/guideline to underclocking? I've never underclocked before, is it the same as overclocking only working in the opposite direction?

Anyone?

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