Is forth generation worth it?

[Guest]

Hello, i am new here :D, i am sorry if this post already exist but i was searching and found nothing. Little support here :)!

 

So this has come to mind today since i had to think about CPU's and that is because before that i was thinking about building a new PC because i have this weird HP laptop with ubuntu LOL! PLEASE DONT HATE!

 

So what my question is, are new z87 processors worth it?

 

This is what i thought and i dont think you think the same and that's why i am doing this topic:

 

It isn't!

 

I didnt see any performance improovments watching youtube videos. Atleast not noticeable ones. So what am i going to do is youtube uploading, video rendering/encoding and mainly gaming.

there is 10% in uploading of difference and there is like 10 minus performance in video encoding or so.

What are your thoughts, please share: main CPU's i compared are 3570k and 4670k

[orangecat]

If you already have a Sandy bridge or Ivy bridge then no but if you are upgrading from a older system like a first gen Core i series then yes.

[Guest]

Thanks, i have a very bad AMD based laptop system... So i guess IVY bridge would be good but no benefit from haswell?

[fishymamba]

For laptops, there is a significant difference between 3rd and 4th gen. Haswell has a significantly lower power consumption that will increase battery life. Haswell also has much better integrated graphics. So if you are going to get a laptop go for 4th gen. 

 

For desktop, not much difference between 3rd and fourth. But if you are going to be upgrading from an older socket(775/1156) I would go with haswell because of the other features it brings such as more Sata 3 ports and more USB ports, and an option to upgrade in the future. 

[MdX MaxX]

If you're building a brand new PC, go with the 4670K.  I personally think it's dumb to build new on an old socket.

 

You won't gain anything from choosing a 3570K over a 4670K.  The Ivy Bridge chip might overclock an extra 200MHz, but that means nothing in real-world activities.

 

If you actually do a decent amount of video rendering then a 3930K (LGA2011) might be good to look at.  It's at a significantly higher price bracket, though.

[Guest]

I dont want i7's, i hate their hyper threading for some reason, i see some people say bad things about compability in some games and it doesnt give a big benefit in them, some games are better without it. I dont do much rendering but i have seen that image encoding that im going to also do with i5 beats encoding on i7. Dont know if this is truth but im still going for i5s. I have also seen that i5 4670k is slower in rendering and image encoding

[Glenwing]

"Worth" depends on what you gain vs what you lose.  If you already have a Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge rig, then you gain almost nothing and lose a lot of money.  If all you have is an old laptop, you still lose a lot of money but you gain a whole bunch of everything.  If Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge are your other options, you still lose a lot of money (about the same amount) and gain slightly less.

 

Basically, Sandy, Ivy, and Haswell all cost the same anyway, so it's not like you'd save money going for the older platform.  Maybe like 20 bucks.  Beyond comparing CPU performance though you also get much better motherboards with Haswell.  So factor that in, with Ivy your motherboard would be worse as well.

[_ASSASSIN_]

wait for haswell-E on X99 boards, you get all the motherboard innovations made on Z87 on a more enthusiast geared platform

[Guest]

I guess that will cost like heck

[LegendKillerRG]

Fourth Gen is not worth the money unless you can remove the IHS(Integrated Heat Sink) and water cool it. A company created something to remove the IHS on Ivy processor. This one guy removed his Ivy IHS and the temp drop nearly 15 Celsius on water cooling. Haswell is even worst when it comes to temperature.

[Guest]

I'll move this down to CPU's

[mgsstar]

I saw once at tigerdirect.ca that the 4670k was $230 which was the same price as the 3570k. I would personally go with a 4670k so you can upgrade in the future if you wanted to.

[kprice789]

I upgraded from Ivy to Haswell and I have to say its not worth the risk of getting a bad bin of haswell. Go Ivy because it was more consistent with its overclocks. This in mind, haswell has a better platform and more chipset features, if this is more important than overclocking then do that. The only reason I switched is because I got a good deal on my old board and Ivy, I would take Ivy bridge back if I was given the opportunity.  

[fishymamba]

wait for haswell-E on X99 boards, you get all the motherboard innovations made on Z87 on a more enthusiast geared platform

Except the CPUs will cost $500 and motherboards will start at $200.