1080P @144hz 24" vs 1440p @60hz 27"

[FruitBasketSilex]

What do you guys think would be a better choice?

[Glenwing]

The word "better" doesn't mean anything by itself. Better for what?

[officiallyasimulator]

depends on the games you play and how you play them.

[FruitBasketSilex]

I'd be using a gtx 970, and better for gaming/video editing/Digital Art.

[Lotus]

While the GPU horsepower to drive both of those monitors are roughly the same, the CPU horsepower required to drive 144 HZ is much higher. Also, the 144hz is better suited for quick reaction games like CS:GO and CoD, otherwise the 1440p IPS display would be better.

[FruitBasketSilex]

While the GPU horsepower to drive both of those monitors are roughly the same, the CPU horsepower required to drive 144 HZ is much higher. Also, the 144hz is better suited for quick reaction games like CS:GO and CoD, otherwise the 1440p IPS display would be better.

The CPU would be a 4690k, so no problems there, and I've never actually seen a display higher than 60hz, do you think it'd be worth it to go 1080p 144hz, its either a nice 1080p or cheap 1440p.

[Lotus]

The CPU would be a 4690k, so no problems there, and I've never actually seen a display higher than 60hz, do you think it'd be worth it to go 1080p 144hz, its either a nice 1080p or cheap 1440p.

As I said, it really depends on what you do with it. If you're an avid FPS gamer, then yes. The Asus VG248QE or other monitors that share its panel are excellent. Otherwise, just get a 1440p IPS display.

[FruitBasketSilex]

As I said, it really depends on what you do with it. If you're an avid FPS gamer, then yes. The Asus VG248QE or other monitors that share its panel are excellent. Otherwise, just get a 1440p IPS display.

Then I think I'll go with the Asus monitor, which was exactly my choice of 1080p monitor, as I play ALOT of csgo, (5+ hours a day)

[Lotus]

Then I think I'll go with the Asus monitor, which was exactly my choice of 1080p monitor, as I play ALOT of csgo, (5+ hours a day)

I have that monitor and also play CS:GO. You will not be disappointed. With that usage case, it's the best monitor.

[Thebman712]

I'd be using a gtx 970, and better for gaming/video editing/Digital Art.

what about either 3440x1440 or 2560x1440p ips 144hz, or are they to expensive

 

i would say go 1440p as if you are unsure whether you need 144hz then you dont really need it and better colors would be nicer for you, especially for video and photo editing

 

edit: i now see you play csgo alot so having more hz would be nicer

[Lotus]

what about either 3440x1440 or 2560x1440p ips 144hz, or are they to expensive

 

i would say go 1440p as if you are unsure whether you need 144hz then you dont really need it and better colors would be nicer for you, especially for video and photo editing

IPS at 144hz, while possible, is really blurry for fast moving things, and when you're playing FPS and changing where you look, EVERYTHING moves really fast. The pixels spend too much time in transition. 60hz IPS is fine, but 144HZ with 5ms response time is pretty poor.

[Thebman712]

IPS at 144hz, while possible, is really blurry for fast moving things, and when you're playing FPS and changing where you look, EVERYTHING moves really fast. The pixels spend too much time in transition. 60hz IPS is fine, but 144HZ with 5ms response time is pretty poor.

well we have yet to see a review out of ony of the monitors announced but as far as i know, they have enhanced alot of things including the speed to even get to 144hz

[Glenwing]

IPS at 144hz, while possible, is really blurry for fast moving things, and when you're playing FPS and changing where you look, EVERYTHING moves really fast. The pixels spend too much time in transition. 60hz IPS is fine, but 144HZ with 5ms response time is pretty poor.

 

We'll see how the new monitors announced at CES perform.

[amintha1992]

i will go with a 1440p 27" any day, specially if its IPS. does not matter what im going to be doing on it.

[FruitBasketSilex]

i will go with a 1440p 27" any day, specially if its IPS. does not matter what im going to be doing on it.

Why is that?

[amintha1992]

Why is that?

because the increase in resolution and available screen space and specially the vibrant colours and viewing angles are much more noticeable than a few milliseconds in response time.  your mouse and keyboard have way more lag than your display. and the human reaction time is even more. i will rather take what i can enjoy than what i cant even quantify.

[FruitBasketSilex]

because the increase in resolution and available screen space and specially the vibrant colours and viewing angles are much more noticeable than a few milliseconds in response time. your mouse and keyboard have way more lag than your display. and the human reaction time is even more. i will rather take what i can enjoy than what i cant even quantify.

But what if I want more fpses, what if I want to take out my net and scoop up all the little fps fish swimming by?

[Lotus]

because the increase in resolution and available screen space and specially the vibrant colours and viewing angles are much more noticeable than a few milliseconds in response time.  your mouse and keyboard have way more lag than your display. and the human reaction time is even more. i will rather take what i can enjoy than what i cant even quantify.

The point is 144HZ, not the 1ms response time. The 1ms response time is only necessary to keep a 144hz display from being blurry. 1ms response time at 60HZ is unnecessary. 144HZ is definitely noticeable and makes FPS gaming feel significantly smoother and is worth it in my opinion.

 

 

We'll see how the new monitors announced at CES perform.

All of the IPS displays I've seen announced still have a 5ms response time even with a 144hz refresh rate. Am I missing something?

[amintha1992]

But what if I want more fpses, what if I want to take out my net and scoop up all the little fps fish swimming by?

a better GPU will do just that.

 

anyway, that is my oponion and i have to leave LTT for now, i have to drive home now.  see ya later.

 

make a good decision.  

[Lotus]

a better GPU will do just that.

 

anyway, that is my oponion and i have to leave LTT for now, i have to drive home now.  see ya later.

 

make a good decision.  

If your monitor limits you to 60HZ, then any extra frames your GPU puts out are completely wasted. It's pointless. It's the reason why on expensive builds I always suggest picking your GPU(s) out based upon your monitor. There's no reason to go SLI GTX 970s with a 1080p 60hz IPS display. The extra frames rendered are not displayed and are useless.

[Glenwing]

The point is 144HZ, not the 1ms response time. The 1ms response time is only necessary to keep a 144hz display from being blurry. 1ms response time at 60HZ is unnecessary. 144HZ is definitely noticeable and makes FPS gaming feel significantly smoother and is worth it in my opinion.

 

 

All of the IPS displays I've seen announced still have a 5ms response time even with a 144hz refresh rate. Am I missing something?

 

Have you tried a 120Hz IPS display before? I've used a 120Hz VA panel rated at 6.5ms and didn't experience any blurring problems. The response time number ultimately doesn't tell you much about a monitor's response time. Read the link in my sig if you want the more detailed explanation.

[amintha1992]

If your monitor limits you to 60HZ, then any extra frames your GPU puts out are completely wasted. It's pointless. It's the reason why on expensive builds I always suggest picking your GPU(s) out based upon your monitor. There's no reason to go SLI GTX 970s with a 1080p 60hz IPS display. The extra frames rendered are not displayed and are useless.

 

what i meant was to get a better GPU when using a 1440p display. you cant just  look at a single replay and think you have the whole picture.

[FruitBasketSilex]

Have you tried a 120Hz IPS display before? I've used a 120Hz VA panel rated at 6.5ms and didn't experience any blurring problems. The response time number ultimately doesn't tell you much about a monitor's response time. Read the link in my sig if you want the more detailed explanation.

What kind of dvi do monitors use, I keep seeing dvi on pcpp, and they all Dont specify the type.

[Glenwing]

What kind of dvi do monitors use, I keep seeing dvi on pcpp, and they all Dont specify the type.

Depends on the monitor, but usually DVI-D, with dual-link DVI-D if necessary. Most monitors have the pinholes to accept a dual-link DVI cable even if they only need single-link though. Very few monitors accept a DVI-I cable or adapter from VGA.

[Lotus]

Have you tried a 120Hz IPS display before? I've used a 120Hz VA panel rated at 6.5ms and didn't experience any blurring problems. The response time number ultimately doesn't tell you much about a monitor's response time. Read the link in my sig if you want the more detailed explanation.

Well that's something new I learned. I just assumed that they were all GTG and that it meant something, and that since 144hz displays means 1/144 per second per frame, or 6.94ms per frame, and 5ms in transition, it would mean that a pixel spends 72% of the time in transition when the images are moving fast making for a blurry picture and backlight strobing basically impossible. Thanks. I'll change accordingly.