AMD and Intel Core

[CJK1611]

Hey guys,

I'm building my first computer *round of applause * .
I was looking at some buyers guides like Linus' one they did a few months ago and it says to use an AMD core. I've never had a computer with an AMD core and i wanted to know: is there any things that AMD cores offer likes features that intel cores don't? Similarly is there anything that intel offers that AMD doesn't? Is there a performance difference (when comparing similarly priced cores)? Or is there no difference besides that certain motherboards will only accept AMD cores and certain mother boards accept Intel Cores. 

[KayTees]

Hey guys,

I'm building my first computer *round of applause * .

I was looking at some buyers guides like Linus' one they did a few months ago and it says to use an AMD core. I've never had a computer with an AMD core and i wanted to know: is there any things that AMD cores offer likes features that intel cores don't? Similarly is there anything that intel offers that AMD doesn't? Is there a performance difference (when comparing similarly priced cores)? Or is there no difference besides that certain motherboards will only accept AMD cores and certain mother boards accept Intel Cores. 

Once I saw ur title. I have a feeling theres gonna be Intel vs AMD peepo comin by real sooon.

[Lotus]

AMD offers better multi-threaded performance for the dollar, but at the cost of worse single-threaded performance. It's a tradeoff that favors productivity and rendering, not gaming. All current Intel CPUs have great single-threaded performance, but only the more expensive ones (i5 and beyond) have good multi-threaded performance. Different games want different kinds of performance, so an Intel i5 is what you want to start with (i5-4440 + H81 motherboard being the cheapest option for demanding games). Basically, gamers should stick to intel in their rig unless they're building a $400 or less tower, in which case you want the X4 860k by AMD. The G3258 isn't a good option these days because it has such poor multi-threaded performance, and some games will just run like crap on it.

[Deletive]

In a nut shell: 

Intel is better performance wise (150+ range for CPU alone)
AMD is good when on a budget (140- range for CPU/APU)

FM2+ and LGA 1150 are both extremely good options!
 

whats your budget? 

[Guest]

Advantages of an FX-Series AMD Processor:

More cores means it will do well in multi-threaded tasks

Overclocking friendly

Supports ECC memory

 

Advantage of a Intel Haswell Processor:

Better single threaded performance than AMD

Lower power consumption

Better upgradability down the road

 

I would go with an Intel processor because it has better single threaded performance, which is good for games because they aren't heavily multithreaded. Also, you will have better upgradability down the road.

[Guest]

AMD offers better multi-threaded performance for the dollar, but at the cost of worse single-threaded performance. It's a tradeoff that favors productivity and rendering, not gaming. All current Intel CPUs have great single-threaded performance, but only the more expensive ones (i5 and beyond) have good multi-threaded performance. Different games want different kinds of performance, so an Intel i5 is what you want to start with (i5-4440 + H81 motherboard being the cheapest option for demanding games. Basically, gamers should stick to intel in their rig unless they're building a $400 or less tower, in which case you want the X4 860k by AMD. The G3258 isn't a good option these days because it has such poor multi-threaded performance, and some games will just run like crap on it.

Yes, I do agree that a G3258 may not be that great but for the sake of upgradbility, it may be good to go that route. To be honest, both the Athlon 860K and the G3258 are crap and some would find it more favorable to have an upgrade path instead of being stuck with a crap CPU.

[CJK1611]

In a nut shell: 

Intel is better performance wise (150+ range for CPU alone)

AMD is good when on a budget (140- range for CPU)

FM2+ and LGA 1150 are both extremely good options!

 

whats your budget? 

My budget is ~1500 AUD

[Guest]

In a nut shell: 

Intel is better performance wise (150+ range for CPU alone)

AMD is good when on a budget (140- range for CPU)

FM2+ and LGA 1150 are both extremely good options!

 

whats your budget? 

The FX series CPUs aren't actually a better value compared to Intel when you factor in the more expensive motherboard and cooling you are going to need. Where I see AMD being a good value is the Athlons. 

[CoolaxGaming]

Advantages of an FX-Series AMD Processor:

More cores means it will do well in multi-threaded tasks

Overclocking friendly

Supports ECC memory

 

Advantage of a Intel Haswell Processor:

Better single threaded performance than AMD

Lower power consumption

Better upgradability down the road

 

I would go with an Intel processor because it has better single threaded performance, which is good for games because they aren't heavily multithreaded. Also, you will have better upgradability down the road.

The FX line supports ECC? Srsly? Wow didnt know that  :blink:

[Notree]

AMD offers better multi-threaded performance for the dollar, but at the cost of worse single-threaded performance. It's a tradeoff that favors productivity and rendering, not gaming. 

It actually  favors quite a few games but ok If you say so.

[Deletive]

My budget is ~1500 AUD

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($299.00 @ PCCaseGear) 

Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($145.00 @ IJK) 

Memory: Kingston Fury Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($99.00 @ IJK) 

Storage: Crucial M550 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear) 

Storage: Toshiba  1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($64.00 @ IJK) 

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  ($399.00 @ PCCaseGear) 

Case: Cooler Master K280 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.00 @ PCCaseGear) 

Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Essential 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($79.00 @ PCCaseGear) 

Total: $1253.00

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-01 10:55 EST+1100 

Then Intel for sure. this something basic to start off with.

[Lotus]

It actually  favors quite a few games but ok If you say so.

I said for the dollar. Intel CPUs have both single AND multi-threaded performance once you hit the i5 range, meaning no downside and all games play well, whereas with the FX platform some games will play well and others will play poorly. Combine that with cost of the FX platform (expensive MoBos with sufficent VRMs to power the 125W CPUs, aftermarket coolers, etc) and there's no reason to get it when you can get an i5-4440 and h81 motherboard for the same price and play every game well rather than just some of them.

 

 

Yes, I do agree that a G3258 may not be that great but for the sake of upgradbility, it may be good to go that route. To be honest, both the Athlon 860K and the G3258 are crap and some would find it more favorable to have an upgrade path instead of being stuck with a crap CPU.

You'd be surprised how good the X4 860k is, honestly. It actually has the best single-threaded performance of any AMD CPU and with 4 cores it's quite good. It's basically a slightly underclocked i5. It's quite a great CPU for the price of the platform, but again I'd only put it in a sub $400 tower. Also, going a G3258 is rather difficult since you'll want an H81 board (otherwise you're spending your money poorly) and it's a haswell refresh CPU so an h81 board will likely require a bios update. I also believe in buying the best your money can buy rather than admitting defeat by buying a CPU you'll just trash in a few months.

[WoodenMarker]

For all practical purposes, Intel and AMD cores don't inherently have any differentiating features.