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Thanks so much btw

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Lotus gave me this build, however I don't need to go quite that heavy on video editing. Is there a chance someone could modify it so that I can save some money on less video editing? I only do a light to medium amount of it... The build is above, in my previous post ^^^^^

 

 

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Just replace the CPU in the Xeon build with an i5-4460 and replace the memory with 2 sticks of 4GB (8GB total) of 1600MHz 9CAS at 1.5v max with a heat sink (cheapest memory with those specs will do, as all memory of the same specs performs the same), and you're good. That should save you around $150 off the build.

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THX so much

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THX so much

 

Why not get a 4440 when it's cheaper...?

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Sry, I'm a total noob at this. 4440 what?

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Sry, I'm a total noob at this. 4440 what?

the i5-4440...but i think you cleared this up IMHO the i5-4460 is like 10$ more on average and it has updated thermals and an extra 100mhz on the core speed so it's worth it...i'd go with the 4460.

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the i5-4440...but i think you cleared this up IMHO the i5-4460 is like 10$ more on average and it has updated thermals and an extra 100mhz on the core speed so it's worth it...i'd go with the 4460.

This. The only reason to go for the i5-4440 is if you want to go super cheap and get an h81 chipset MoBo.

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compared to a $40 H81 board? Yeah, they're expensive.

 

edit: also, NONE of those boards are sufficient for FX series 8 core CPUs. You need at least a GA-970A-UD3P, which is the cheapest 8+2 VRM AM3+ MoBo I'm aware of.

Uhh you got personal experience? 

These boards can handle a 8 core FX cpu as long they have the proper cooling. 

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Uhh you got personal experience? 

These boards can handle a 8 core FX cpu as long they have the proper cooling. 

i do have personal experience i owned the MSI 970A-G46 and OHH GOSH even at stock the CPU was trottling really bad and the vrm heatsink was piping hot...i had to sell it and order a good enough board.

out of those 3 boards posted earlier only one is ''okay'' and far from optimal but safe enough to use and it was the M5A97 R2.0...but i recommend the M5A97 EVO or gigabyte 970A-UD3P at the VERY LEAST for FX 8 core CPUs.

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i do have personal experience i owned the MSI 970A-G46 and HOW GOSH even at stock the CPU was trottling really bad and the vrm heatsink was piping hot...i had to sell it and order a good enough board.

out of those 3 boards posted earlier only one is ''okay'' and far from optimal but safe enough to use and it was the M5A97 R2.0...but i recommend the M5A97 EVO of gigabyte 970A-UD3P at the VERY LEAST.

I know the G43/46 is a POS, it's the AM3+ board that you should not buy. I have a M5A97 R2.0 and it works fine, who needs 8+2? The M5A97 R2.0 works fine on a 8320 at stock speeds on a 4+2. 

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I know the G43/46 is a POS, it's the AM3+ board that you should not buy. I have a M5A97 R2.0 and it works fine, who needs 8+2? The M5A97 R2.0 works fine on a 8320 at stock speeds on a 4+2. 

at stock speed yes...but it will trottle under a significant overclock. but it has good vrm's and mosfets it will hold, but it will trottle.

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i do have personal experience i owned the MSI 970A-G46 and OHH GOSH even at stock the CPU was trottling really bad and the vrm heatsink was piping hot...i had to sell it and order a good enough board.

out of those 3 boards posted earlier only one is ''okay'' and far from optimal but safe enough to use and it was the M5A97 R2.0...but i recommend the M5A97 EVO or gigabyte 970A-UD3P at the VERY LEAST for FX 8 core CPUs.

Anybody else had this experience?

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I wanna make sure it's not just a fluke...

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I wanna make sure it's not just a fluke...

just use google in about 1 minute youll find plenty of similar stories with fx 8 core on cheap motherboards.

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Cool! Thx!

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What? Boards don't just blow up from being used  :lol: if these boards were incapable of running the cpu's then they A- would have cost the companies way more to rma than they could make of selling them and B-not have solid reviews.

 

Most people buying 970 boards know that they are made for the FX-6300 and lower. That's why the platform doesn't necessarily get a stupid amount of bad reviews (still, it gets a LOT of bad user reviews from people who don't know better)

 

In a budget pinch, only the UD3, as previously mentioned, should ever be considered for 8320 and up. But realistically I wouldn't touch anything but a Sabertooth myself.

 

And RMA likelihood is baked into the cost of the board, so that's irrelevant.

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Okay, if you want an Intel build that has the best of everything for the cheapest price, this would be it:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($241.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: MSI H97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($83.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($124.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($97.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $899.93

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-17 12:58 EST-0500

Most importantly, it has a 4-core Xeon processor with Hyper Threading, which means it has great multi-threaded performance for your video editing and multi-tasking needs. Plus it still has great single-threaded performance so it's still good for gaming. Plus it has 16GB of RAM, which can be toned down to 8GB if you don't need it and want to save money, and it has a 3TB HDD for mass storage for all your video files, yet it's still fast enough to be used as a main drive so you don't necessarily need an SSD. Overall it's likely the best compromise for more heavy video editing (although it's overkill if you only do light video editing) and gaming for the cheapest price.

Ice decided to bar of this build, replacing the 2x8 ram with 2x4, and the xeon with a i5-4460. Is there a cheaper alternative hard drive, maybe with less memory? I won't have that many videos that quickly, so I can just by another hard drive later.

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Here you go:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($174.87 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI H97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($83.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($50.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $747.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-18 21:07 EST-0500

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Lotus. You. Rock. People should pay you to do this. So, I would use an external optical drive?

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you got 2 choice

i5 4440 With quad core and lower TDP

Or

AMD FX 8320 With Octa Core but High TDP 

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AMD Ryzen 7 5700X | GIGABYTE B550 Aorus Pro v2 | CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 16gb 3600Mhz | GIGABYTE RTX 3070 AORUS MASTER OC 8 GB | NZXT H510 Elite | 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM | ADATA XPG GAMMIX S7 512GB M.2-2280 NVME | Corsair RM850 80+ Gold Modular PSU | NZXT Kraken X63 | Harman Kardon Soundstick 4 | Koorui 27E1Q

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So, if I don't know how to do it from a flash drive, is there a non flash drive, non optical drive way, out should I just learn flash drive?

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Lotus. You. Rock. People should pay you to do this. So, I would use an external optical drive?

I would try and fit in an SSD if you have the money.

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8LHhdC

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8LHhdC/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($169.99 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($53.98 @ OutletPC)

Memory: Team Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($57.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($60.98 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($50.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($234.99 @ NCIX US)

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $729.90

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-18 23:56 EST-0500

 

I also don't think that H97 motherboard makes sense when you could buy a Z97 motherboard for the same price and be ready for an i7-k upgrade in the future.

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jjgwHx

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jjgwHx/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($174.88 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($85.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Team Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($57.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($50.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($234.99 @ NCIX US)

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $705.81

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-18 23:58 EST-0500

 

That Gigabyte R9 290 Windforce is at a crazy low price of $235, I would strongly consider buying it now if you can.

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I would try and fit in an SSD if you have the money.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8LHhdC

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8LHhdC/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($53.98 @ OutletPC)

Memory: Team Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($60.98 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($234.99 @ NCIX US)

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $729.90

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-18 23:56 EST-0500

I also don't think that H97 motherboard makes sense when you could buy a Z97 motherboard for the same price and be ready for an i7-k upgrade in the future.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jjgwHx

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jjgwHx/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.88 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($85.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Team Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($234.99 @ NCIX US)

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $705.81

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-18 23:58 EST-0500

That Gigabyte R9 290 Windforce is at a crazy low price of $235, I would strongly consider buying it now if you can.

faceman, could you explain what you changed and why?http://www.ncixus.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1265

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