my final build

[WidowMaker]

ok here it is http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4mbFxr i was trying to gather a little more money and realized amazon charged me $200 for something i never bought so yeah derp 

 

i know im spending a lot on my peripherals but i will use the crap out of them and this is the only company i could find with clear back light cherry mx keyboards and audio technicias are comfortable as fuck 

 

[Suffokation]

Your motherboard could be a tad cheaper which would allow for a more beefy GPU such as the 270.

[ImBleu]

You want a better PSU if possible - bundled ones are often crap.

 

 

You dont need an after market cooler for a locked i5-4440, and you can use B85/H81/H97 etc motherboards instead, the Z87/Z97 only improves on Overclocking over the lesser boards so there is no reason to not go for something cheaper. You're getting stuff you don't need.

[thorpj]

ok here it is http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4mbFxr i was trying to gather a little more money and realized amazon charged me $200 for something i never bought so yeah derp 

 

i know im spending a lot on my peripherals but i will use the crap out of them and this is the only company i could find with clear back light cherry mx keyboards and audio technicias are comfortable as fuck 

Don't use that case.

 

The cheap CM cases are crappy, and the included power supply will be even crappier. That case doesn't even have front USB 3

 

And where's your mass storage?

[WidowMaker]

You want a better PSU if possible - bundled ones are often crap.

 

 

You dont need an after market cooler for a locked i5-4440, and you can use B85/H81/H97 etc motherboards instead, the Z87/Z97 only improves on Overclocking over the lesser boards so there is no reason to not go for something cheaper. You're getting stuff you don't need.

so will the case like break or shit like that?

[WidowMaker]

You want a better PSU if possible - bundled ones are often crap.

 

 

You dont need an after market cooler for a locked i5-4440, and you can use B85/H81/H97 etc motherboards instead, the Z87/Z97 only improves on Overclocking over the lesser boards so there is no reason to not go for something cheaper. You're getting stuff you don't need.

i thought this one would be good this is my first pc im building so idk much i thought a pre installed psu would help me alot

[thorpj]

so will the case like break or shit like that?

It's not that it'll break.

 

The build experience will be difficult, the design will be poor, edges will be sharp. The case will be small, and expansion lacking.

 

The PSU, will have terrible efficiency, and bad PSUs are known to break/blow up/short components (not a huge explosion mind you, just the whole of your PC)

[stconquest]

Dump the $250 in peripherals (headset/mechanical keyboard), then grab:  a R9 280, or 285; i5 4790K; and either a 256GB SSD or and extra 8 GB of RAM.  Buy the peripherals later.  Focus on the hardware for your build.  Get a cheap $8 keyboard for now if you need one.

[WidowMaker]

It's not that it'll break.

 

The build experience will be difficult, the design will be poor, edges will be sharp. The case will be small, and expansion lacking.

 

The PSU, will have terrible efficiency, and bad PSUs are known to break/blow up/short components (not a huge explosion mind you, just the whole of your PC)

so what should i get?

[WidowMaker]

Dump the $250 in peripherals (headset/mechanical keyboard), then grab:  a R9 280, or 285; i5 4790K; and either a 256GB SSD or and extra 8 GB of RAM.  Buy the peripherals later.  Focus on the hardware for your build.  Get a cheap $8 keyboard for now if you need one.

i need them im sorry im very picky its just me i type alot and i tried a mech keyboard at a shop before and i need one so yeah

[thorpj]

i need them im sorry im very picky its just me i type alot and i tried a mech keyboard at a shop before and i need one so yeah

 

Do you need that particular keyboard? you can get better KBs

so what should i get?

I know a great budget case. The NZXT Source 340. While it doesn't have room for an optical drive, it's a great case, and makes pc building even easier, especially cable management. You can always get a USB external optical drive.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146190&cm_re=nzxt_ca-_-11-146-190-_-Product

[thorpj]

Also what about mass storage, you're going to run out of room for files very quickly with just an ssd

[stconquest]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zzBNWZ

 

With $100+ to spare for a monitor.  You know you want a better machine, get the keyboard after New Years...find some good deals. 

[stconquest]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7Vsyyc

 

Cut another $35 off

[WidowMaker]

Do you need that particular keyboard? you can get better KBs

I know a great budget case. The NZXT Source 340. While it doesn't have room for an optical drive, it's a great case, and makes pc building even easier, especially cable management. You can always get a USB external optical drive.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146190&cm_re=nzxt_ca-_-11-146-190-_-Product

 

what does semi and full mean which one should i get

[thorpj]

what does semi and full mean which one should i get

You mean semi or fully modular power supplies?

 

semi means you can take out some cables that you dont need

 

fully modular means you could take out every cable

 

it makes for a clean build, but the nzxt source 340 makes cabling look clean anyway

[WidowMaker]

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RKCfkL

 

is that better also what is the difference between full and semi apu which one is easier to build with

[stconquest]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4Bsyyc

 

...and yet cheaper still...

 

Semi modular means that some cables are integrated...motherboard power for example.  Some cables are plug in as you need, use ONLY the ones you need.  That means there are fewer loose cables in your machine, and usually results in better airflow and aesthetics.

[stconquest]

Ok!  ...with everything EXCEPT the headset:

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZXXgpg

 

Hey, I don't mean to pester you....say so if i am annoying you =).  I would just rather see you get a better machine.

 

...and it is $100 cheaper AFTER rebates, so you could theoretically add the $100 headset.

 

...and bigger Monitor!

[WidowMaker]

Ok!  ...with everything EXCEPT the headset:

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZXXgpg

 

Hey, I don't mean to pester you....say so if i am annoying you =).  I would just rather see you get a better machine.

im ok with the advice but my friend who works for schools has a bunch of trouble with crucial

and the monitor and key board ehh i need clear switches i like stiff but quiet

[stconquest]

Personal experience weighs heavy with enthusiasts, I get it.  I personally have issue with ASUS mobos....but I know they are good.  Crucial is a very reputable company that has been around the block.  There are other options though.

 

So what do you think? of the build?

[WidowMaker]

Personal experience weighs heavy with enthusiasts, I get it.  I personally have issue with ASUS mobos....but I know they are good.  Crucial is a very reputable company that has been around the block.  There are other options though.

 

So what do you think? of the build?

i am very ocd as you can tell i have 2 of every company im using 

[stconquest]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226576&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

 

A good SSD

 

Note:  When I help out with these builds, it is like I am organizing my own PC.  Feels weird, I don't forget it is not mine though. =)

[thorpj]

Ok!  ...with everything EXCEPT the headset:

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZXXgpg

 

Hey, I don't mean to pester you....say so if i am annoying you =).  I would just rather see you get a better machine.

 

...and it is $100 cheaper AFTER rebates, so you could theoretically add the $100 headset.

 

...and bigger Monitor!

I doubt that he'll be overclocking.

 

Pester him all you want, but it's not going to change his views on peripherals. That's down to preference

[thorpj]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RKCfkL

 

is that better also what is the difference between full and semi apu which one is easier to build with

what do you mean by full and semi apu? i haven't heard that term, and i'm pretty sure you're not talking about APU as in AMD CPus.