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Loop order has barely any effect on temps because the liquid in the loop moves around so fast that the liquid's temp reaches an equilibrium. As for efficiency run the loop in the way where you have the shortest and straightest tubing runs.

 

Enthoo Luxe right? Personally I'd do res >  GPU's > top rad > CPU > front rad > res or res >  GPU's > CPU > top rad > front rad > res.

 

 

Yup, saw your topic in the latest posts section. :)

 

How your run the tubing is really up to and how you want your aesthetics. Feel free to PM me if you have more questions. ;)

 

 

Temperature changes in a loop are extremely gradual. My loops seems to take quite a large amount of time (30min- 1 hour) to heat up to max load levels and then cool back to idle (~10mins). Ordering things differently wont really affect this as you could imagine, due to how gradual the changes come.

 

I find its best to just choose the shortest runs possible (for aesthetics), then pray everything fits.

 

 

I think this wouldn't really be an issue, or even something you can control. Unless of course you just don't mount components high up in your case. It would be so negligible though, I wouldn't worry about it.

 

I guess as I said before, shorter runs, less bends, no kinks, nothing to do with loop order. These are all things which would require turning your pump up to compensate for, but slow water in a loop isn't necessarily a bad thing. Although I don't think anyone with a custom loop ever actually sits there and works out how low they can run their pumps. I'd imagine everyone has a bit of overkill going on just for peace of mind. This is going on the assumption that running your pump slower (or with less strain) will automatically make it last longer, which I'm not sure is true. At least I guess, running your pump slower will make it quieter, that's an immediate benefit.

 

P.S. I have my loop in a H440 (3 rads + 1 cpu block + 2 GPU blocks + Res + d5 pump), all I care about is fitting everything in! and maybe having it look half decent. Ordering is the very last thing on my mind when dealing with a mid tower case. Your experience may differ.

 

I've always wanted to try GPUs and the CPU in parallel, it would stir up all the trolls. Every time someone does CPU/GPUs in parallel on /r/watercooling it starts a war about how its physically impossible.

 

 

Yep sounds fine.

 

 

Loop order doesnt make much of a noticeable difference. As long as the res is above the pump, and feeds directly into the pump, the rest doesnt matter. Do what will look best and keep your tube runs neat and clean looking.

 

 

only real way is to get the hardware into the chassis and watch for obstructions

and ease of coolant flow. water cooling has been around for awhile and if there

were a best recipe for coolant flow/performance, it'd be written in silicon for all

to know. it'll mainly have to do with radiator placement, reservoir location, device

fitting position, and chassis limitations.

Regarding flow path, which one would be safer or much more efficient to cool the CPU and two GPUs?

Res>Radiators>CPU and GPUs?
Res>CPU and GPUs> Radiators?
Res>Radiator>CPU>Radiator>GPUs?
Res>CPU>Radiator>GPUs>Radiator?

I am looking for the safest or most efficient flow path in a sense that each component is cooled as they should like the CPU is cooled at XX degrees celcius and the pair of GPUs are cooled evenly at XX degrees celcius, not one GPU being significantly cooler or hotter than the other GPU. So, which one is the safer or more efficient path?

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Regarding flow path, which one would be safer or much more efficient to cool the CPU and two GPUs?

Res>Radiators>CPU and GPUs?

Res>CPU and GPUs> Radiators?

Res>Radiator>CPU>Radiator>GPUs?

Res>CPU>Radiator>GPUs>Radiator?

I am looking for the safest or most efficient flow path in a sense that each component is cooled as they should like the CPU is cooled at XX degrees celcius and the pair of GPUs are cooled evenly at XX degrees celcius, not one GPU being significantly cooler or hotter than the other GPU. So, which one is the safer or more efficient path?

 

Loop order has barely any effect on temps because the liquid in the loop moves around so fast that the liquid's temp reaches an equilibrium. As for efficiency run the loop in the way where you have the shortest and straightest tubing runs.

 

Enthoo Luxe right? Personally I'd do res >  GPU's > top rad > CPU > front rad > res or res >  GPU's > CPU > top rad > front rad > res.

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Loop order has barely any effect on temps because the liquid in the loop moves around so fast that the liquid's temp reaches an equilibrium. As for efficiency run the loop in the way where you have the shortest and straightest tubing runs.

 

Enthoo Luxe right? Personally I'd do res >  GPU's > top rad > CPU > front rad > res or res >  GPU's > CPU > top rad > front rad > res.

Woah, its you again :D Well, I guess I'd wait for what the others would say so I could get an idea on other possibilities. And yes, Enthoo Luxe :D

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Woah, its you again :D Well, I guess I'd wait for what the others would say so I could get an idea on other possibilities. And yes, Enthoo Luxe :D

 

Yup, saw your topic in the latest posts section. :) 

 

How your run the tubing is really up to and how you want your aesthetics. Feel free to PM me if you have more questions. ;)

Bert & Ernie before squirting spermie. 

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Temperature changes in a loop are extremely gradual. My loops seems to take quite a large amount of time (30min- 1 hour) to heat up to max load levels and then cool back to idle (~10mins). Ordering things differently wont really affect this as you could imagine, due to how gradual the changes come.

 

I find its best to just choose the shortest runs possible (for aesthetics), then pray everything fits.

 2x GTX780 (@1.29ghz) | 2x 840evo 250GB raid0 | i5 4690k (@4.7ghz) | Watercooled Modded H440 Build Log: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/255872-project-whiteout-v20-h440-watercooled-3xradiators-10-fans

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Yup, saw your topic in the latest posts section. :)

 

How your run the tubing is really up to and how you want your aesthetics. Feel free to PM me if you have more questions. ;)

 

Temperature changes in a loop are extremely gradual. My loops seems to take quite a large amount of time (30min- 1 hour) to heat up to max load levels and then cool back to idle (~10mins). Ordering things differently wont really affect this as you could imagine, due to how gradual the changes come.

 

I find its best to just choose the shortest runs possible (for aesthetics), then pray everything fits.

What about the amount of down flow and up flow? Do they have negligible or significant effects towards temps, pump durability, and/or other factors whether it sort of depends on loop order or not?

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What about the amount of down flow and up flow? Do they have negligible or significant effects towards temps, pump durability, and/or other factors whether it sort of depends on loop order or not?

 

I think this wouldn't really be an issue, or even something you can control. Unless of course you just don't mount components high up in your case. It would be so negligible though, I wouldn't worry about it.

 

I guess as I said before, shorter runs, less bends, no kinks, nothing to do with loop order. These are all things which would require turning your pump up to compensate for, but slow water in a loop isn't necessarily a bad thing. Although I don't think anyone with a custom loop ever actually sits there and works out how low they can run their pumps. I'd imagine everyone has a bit of overkill going on just for peace of mind. This is going on the assumption that running your pump slower (or with less strain) will automatically make it last longer, which I'm not sure is true. At least I guess, running your pump slower will make it quieter, that's an immediate benefit.

 

P.S. I have my loop in a H440 (3 rads + 1 cpu block + 2 GPU blocks + Res + d5 pump), all I care about is fitting everything in! and maybe having it look half decent. Ordering is the very last thing on my mind when dealing with a mid tower case. Your experience may differ.

 

I've always wanted to try GPUs and the CPU in parallel, it would stir up all the trolls. Every time someone does CPU/GPUs in parallel on /r/watercooling it starts a war about how its physically impossible.

 2x GTX780 (@1.29ghz) | 2x 840evo 250GB raid0 | i5 4690k (@4.7ghz) | Watercooled Modded H440 Build Log: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/255872-project-whiteout-v20-h440-watercooled-3xradiators-10-fans

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I think this wouldn't really be an issue, or even something you can control. Unless of course you just don't mount components high up in your case. It would be so negligible though, I wouldn't worry about it.

 

I guess as I said before, shorter runs, less bends, no kinks, nothing to do with loop order. These are all things which would require turning your pump up to compensate for, but slow water in a loop isn't necessarily a bad thing. Although I don't think anyone with a custom loop ever actually sits there and works out how low they can run their pumps. I'd imagine everyone has a bit of overkill going on just for peace of mind. This is going on the assumption that running your pump slower (or with less strain) will automatically make it last longer, which I'm not sure is true. At least I guess, running your pump slower will make it quieter, that's an immediate benefit.

 

P.S. I have my loop in a H440 (3 rads + 1 cpu block + 2 GPU blocks + Res + d5 pump), all I care about is fitting everything in! and maybe having it look half decent. Ordering is the very last thing on my mind when dealing with a mid tower case. Your experience may differ.

 

I've always wanted to try GPUs and the CPU in parallel, it would stir up all the trolls. Every time someone does CPU/GPUs in parallel on /r/watercooling it starts a war about how its physically impossible.

So, its safe if I mount the pump on the floor with the loop order of res+pump > GPU block > CPU Block > Top mounted rad > front mounted rad > back to pump+res? Well, I'll be using a Phanteks Enthoo Luxe. I'm sorry if the question is rather redundant, I just want to be as sure as possible to avoid some mistakes.

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So, its safe if I mount the pump on the floor with the loop order of res+pump > GPU block > CPU Block > Top mounted rad > front mounted rad > back to pump+res? Well, I'll be using a Phanteks Enthoo Luxe. I'm sorry if the question is rather redundant, I just want to be as sure as possible to avoid some mistakes.

Yep sounds fine.

 2x GTX780 (@1.29ghz) | 2x 840evo 250GB raid0 | i5 4690k (@4.7ghz) | Watercooled Modded H440 Build Log: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/255872-project-whiteout-v20-h440-watercooled-3xradiators-10-fans

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Loop order doesnt make much of a noticeable difference. As long as the res is above the pump, and feeds directly into the pump, the rest doesnt matter. Do what will look best and keep your tube runs neat and clean looking.

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So, which one is the safer or more efficient path?

 

only real way is to get the hardware into the chassis and watch for obstructions

and ease of coolant flow. water cooling has been around for awhile and if there

were a best recipe for coolant flow/performance, it'd be written in silicon for all

to know. it'll mainly have to do with radiator placement, reservoir location, device

fitting position, and chassis limitations.

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Well, I guess my question/s have been answered. Thank you guys :D

Now... IIRC, only one post can be marked as "Marked Solved". So, I'll just mark this post as "Marked Solved" with quoted posts :D

Loop order has barely any effect on temps because the liquid in the loop moves around so fast that the liquid's temp reaches an equilibrium. As for efficiency run the loop in the way where you have the shortest and straightest tubing runs.

 

Enthoo Luxe right? Personally I'd do res >  GPU's > top rad > CPU > front rad > res or res >  GPU's > CPU > top rad > front rad > res.

 

 

Yup, saw your topic in the latest posts section. :)

 

How your run the tubing is really up to and how you want your aesthetics. Feel free to PM me if you have more questions. ;)

 

 

Temperature changes in a loop are extremely gradual. My loops seems to take quite a large amount of time (30min- 1 hour) to heat up to max load levels and then cool back to idle (~10mins). Ordering things differently wont really affect this as you could imagine, due to how gradual the changes come.

 

I find its best to just choose the shortest runs possible (for aesthetics), then pray everything fits.

 

 

I think this wouldn't really be an issue, or even something you can control. Unless of course you just don't mount components high up in your case. It would be so negligible though, I wouldn't worry about it.

 

I guess as I said before, shorter runs, less bends, no kinks, nothing to do with loop order. These are all things which would require turning your pump up to compensate for, but slow water in a loop isn't necessarily a bad thing. Although I don't think anyone with a custom loop ever actually sits there and works out how low they can run their pumps. I'd imagine everyone has a bit of overkill going on just for peace of mind. This is going on the assumption that running your pump slower (or with less strain) will automatically make it last longer, which I'm not sure is true. At least I guess, running your pump slower will make it quieter, that's an immediate benefit.

 

P.S. I have my loop in a H440 (3 rads + 1 cpu block + 2 GPU blocks + Res + d5 pump), all I care about is fitting everything in! and maybe having it look half decent. Ordering is the very last thing on my mind when dealing with a mid tower case. Your experience may differ.

 

I've always wanted to try GPUs and the CPU in parallel, it would stir up all the trolls. Every time someone does CPU/GPUs in parallel on /r/watercooling it starts a war about how its physically impossible.

 

 

Yep sounds fine.

 

 

Loop order doesnt make much of a noticeable difference. As long as the res is above the pump, and feeds directly into the pump, the rest doesnt matter. Do what will look best and keep your tube runs neat and clean looking.

 

 

only real way is to get the hardware into the chassis and watch for obstructions

and ease of coolant flow. water cooling has been around for awhile and if there

were a best recipe for coolant flow/performance, it'd be written in silicon for all

to know. it'll mainly have to do with radiator placement, reservoir location, device

fitting position, and chassis limitations.

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