Intel Xeon gaming/overclocking question

[asim1999]

I know that the LGA1150 xeons are becoming very popular for gaming as they are great value. But i wanted to ask, would the new 18 core xeon be any good for gaming? how would it do in relation to say X99 or Z97 with SLI/Crossfire setups?

And also, can you overclock them? if you can somehow, how far will you be able to take the 18 cores?

(BTW i do understand that it is a Server CPU, but i was curious of how it would do in gaming due to the popularity of xeons at the low-end for affordable self-built PCs)

[EzioSan]

 

the e3-1231v3  is very popular, because he´s an i7 without integrated graphic which gamers  who have a graphics card dont need

and it comes with the prize of an  i5.

 

atm u dont need more then 2-4  cores, so 18 is defenitly overkill and not worth for just a  gaming rig

[asim1999]

this is outdated, surely games like BF4 and crysis 3 would benefit from hyperthreading?

[thegamezbeplayed]

Who said xeons are popular or cheap?

[Laputacake]

Short answer No

This is because clock speed counts more than core count. For example a core i3 would beat a 16 core hyper threaded xeon clocked at 2.66ghz. the only Xeon to consider for gaming are the Xeon E3 1230 series inc the Xeon 1231 v3 and 1240 series as there i7 without the intergrated graphics

[Sheldon_King]

Who said xeons are popular or cheap?

Half or more of the internet can agree on entry level Xeons being "Cheap" except for the E3-122x (v1/2/3). They are on average at least $50 USD cheaper than the equivalent i7 generally, and with the exception of the 4770k they are all the same chips except the Xeons have ECC support (there are no official unlocked Xeons for overclocking, but in games the few frames you get from overclocking is not going to make enough of a difference to justify the price you paid for the higher end board and heatsink to get the overclock.)

 

 

As for teh OPs question, the E3 Xeons are pretty good for gaming, assuming they are selling at MSRP or less when you buy. THe E5/E7 Xeons are not going to be a big enough difference in PURE gaming to justify the $1000+ price difference. If you were to do other things that can benefit greatly from the extra threads, like rendering video (in formats that do not support CUDA or OpenCL) or the like, then it would benefit you, but it would be your call as to weather the difference in performance is worth the much higher price. (I say this as someone that needs a Xeon, but can not yet justify the price for C612 boards and E5/E7 CPUs.

[asim1999]

Short answer No

This is because clock speed counts more than core count. For example a core i3 would beat a 16 core hyper threaded xeon clocked at 2.66ghz. the only Xeon to consider for gaming are the Xeon E3 1230 series inc the Xeon 1231 v3 and 1240 series as there i7 without the intergrated graphics

so why does my 5820K beat an FX 9590 when the 9590 is clocked at 5Ghz and mine is at stock?

[Sheldon_King]

so why does my 5820K beat an FX 9590 when the 9590 is clocked at 5Ghz and mine is at stock?

IPC.  Your Intel has fewer cores, but you have more power per core. Think of Intel cores like C4, while AMD cores are closer to Black Powder. Both will explode, but one is going to make a bigger bang per ounce.

[Laputacake]

so why does my 5820K beat an FX 9590 when the 9590 is clocked at 5Ghz and mine is at stock?

the Architecture. Intel are just generally better and their cores are soo much better than amds

[-iSynthesis]

Who said xeons are popular or cheap?

They are popular and cheap

 

18 cores would be ridicouless for gaming, however you wont get very good performance since every one of those 18 cores wont be very strong and no game on earth will use 18 cores lol

[Deletive]

 

the e3-1231v3  is very popular, because he´s an i7 without integrated graphic which gamers  who have a graphics card dont need

and it comes with the prize of an  i5.

 

atm u dont need more then 2-4  cores, so 18 is defenitly overkill and not worth for just a  gaming rig

2-8 actually.

[Sauron]

It would be ridiculous overkill and in fact would probably perform worse than an z97 i7 because of the lower clock speed.

[Toddwjp]

It would be ridiculous overkill and in fact would probably perform worse than an z97 i7 because of the lower clock speed.

 

how ever it would be able to run alot of games at the same time.

[Guest]

Yeah it wouldn't be good for gaming. Gaming doesn't really need more than 4 cores. Xeon E5 and E7 are meant mainly for workstation and server use. Quadro is to Geforce as Xeon is to i7. The only exception to this is some of the entry level Xeon E3s which can be cheaper than there i7 counterparts only because they lack on board video. Xeons are great if you need to do lots of rendering, or things of that nature. Not gaming. For my next build that I would like to do on Skylake-EP when that comes out I would really like to do a 10 or 12 core rig because of how much I use After Effects, which will use pretty much all the computing power you throw at it.

[Sauron]

how ever it would be able to run alot of games at the same time.

 

true, but your gpu wouldn't.

[DirkW]

so why does my 5820K beat an FX 9590 when the 9590 is clocked at 5Ghz and mine is at stock?

because there were a few words not written, but implied:

 

This is because clock speed counts more than core count (on the same architecture).

blue added by me.

[Toddwjp]

true, but your gpu wouldn't.

 

multiple instances of arma 3 ha ha

[Sheldon_King]

The only exception to this is some of the entry level Xeon E3s which can be cheaper than there i7 counterparts only because they lack on board video.

I give you the E3-1246 V3 which has both a cheaper price than an i7 and iGPU. http://ark.intel.com/products/80916/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1246-v3-8M-Cache-3_50-GHz