Why intel over AMD

[Wano97]

na... it's just intel has more trust from the trust from the market, been there waaaay longer than AMD.

so yeah, even if they are performing the same, it takes people who are used to make PC a looong time to convert when they are quite the same, since the specifications and reviews can't review things that are 3 years old, the reliability

Not just that, intel also performs better

[hak4fun]

Don't waste your time with an APU. an X4 860k / G3258 + R9 260x is a MUCH better choice for only a bit more. 

I am not finding a r9 260x

[i_build_nanosuits]

na... it's just intel has more trust from the trust from the market, been there waaaay longer than AMD.

so yeah, even if they are performing the same, it takes people who are used to make PC a looong time to convert when they are quite the same, since the specifications and reviews can't review things that are 3 years old, the reliability

Haha kids these days...

AMD made the first consumer micro-processors i don,t see how intel could have been there waaaayyy longer than AMD like you say

Also, back in the days of the athlon CPU's AMD was totaly dominating the pentium intel had to offer...sorry but it's ture, it used to be the other way around and Advanced Micro Device was a giant back then and still is...but in a different way.

First read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Micro_Devices

Then listen to this :

I also think a good reading on intel could be useful for you as well...just so you realise how bad intel has been over the years and that only very recently on the time scale did they managed to catch up with AMD:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel

[79wjd]

I am not finding a r9 260x

R7 260x* 

 

 

Haha kids these days...

AMD made the first consumer micro-processors i don,t see how intel could have been there waaaayyy longer than AMD like you say 

Also, back in the days of the athlon CPU's AMD was totaly dominating the pentium intel had to offer...sorry but it's ture, it used to be the other way around and Advanced Micro Device was a giant back then and still is...but in a different way.

My good old trustworthy AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 

[hak4fun]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XgPX3C What i am thinking. Don't know about storage yet. But i have a 500gig WD black that I had gotten to replace my Dad's rig, than he decided to just buy a whole new computer. So will prolly buy that off him for cheap. We'll see. I can't decide If i want to get a dedicated cooler or not. I don't plan to overclock so it should do OK. But i might pickup a better cooler if needed.

[i_build_nanosuits]

My good old trustworthy AMD Athlon 64 3000+

They where even making CPU's LOOONG before that!

[i_build_nanosuits]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XgPX3C What i am thinking. Don't know about storage yet. But i have a 500gig WD black that I had gotten to replace my Dad's rig, than he decided to just buy a whole new computer. So will prolly buy that off him for cheap. We'll see. I can't decide If i want to get a dedicated cooler or not. I don't plan to overclock so it should do OK. But i might pickup a better cooler if needed.

not bad but the PSU is way overkill...get a good 500W unit and save a bunch.

i'd try to get 8gb of RAM with the money instead.

[rossbunting35]

It's been quite some time since AMD came out with a significant release, all of the enthusiast CPUs they have are based on the old bulldozer architecture which was released in 2012 if I'm not mistaken so Intel has been able to take its sweet time fine tuning its products. The pentium anniversary cpu is an awesom budget cpu and you can pick up a haswell i5 for about £55 sterling more than the 8350. Maybe AMD will be able to come up with something next year to keep Intel honest but so far there hasn't been much news about anything like that.

[79wjd]

They where even making CPU's LOOONG before that!

Yes, but that was my first AMD cpu  

[hak4fun]

Okay, Now i know alot of people HATE this question, but how future proof is it? Will it last another generation of games with playable framerates, Or will it last a year, than will need a big upgrade?

[i_build_nanosuits]

Okay, Now i know alot of people HATE this question, but how future proof is it? Will it last another generation of games with playable framerates, Or will it last a year, than will need a big upgrade?

with that CPU? ...no...IMHO a dual core CPU in late 2014 doesnt really makes sence...honestly.

Also if you play at 1080p...a low end GPU like the 260X will struggle in some current games...if you play at lower resolution it's another story...but overall with 4GB of RAM, low end GPU and dual core CPU...future is not pretty to say the least...sorry.

If really you can't beef up any components and are looking to play modern games as much as i hate it i would suggest a PS4 instead.

The PS4 inside is a 6 thread capable CPU + 2 threads for OS and has a modified HD7870 GPU (which is basicaly an R9 270) and 8GB pool of RAM for both GPU and system so basicaly a PS4 is superior hardware to what you've listed.

[hak4fun]

What do you reccomend than? Should i just wait till i have a bigger budget? Because a i5 takes almost half my budget. And this whole forum post told me that AMD is not good for gaming.

[i_build_nanosuits]

What do you reccomend than? Should i just wait till i have a bigger budget? Because a i5 takes almost half my budget. And this whole forum post told me that AMD is not good for gaming.

let me some time to figure something out, i'll post you something better in a minute.

[hak4fun]

Okay, Thanks. This is why I love this forum. I learn new things every minute i spend on here.

[i_build_nanosuits]

What do you reccomend than? Should i just wait till i have a bigger budget? Because a i5 takes almost half my budget. And this whole forum post told me that AMD is not good for gaming.

This would play games much better than a PS4 and should last the entire current generation, you still need a harddrive and operating system if you don't already have...and peripherals and a monitor unless you hook it to a TV...ALSO there is quite a few mail-in rebates INCLUDED in the price of this build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: Asus A78M-E Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($49.98 @ OutletPC)

Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280 3GB TurboDuo Video Card ($140.00 @ Newegg)

Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($21.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $387.94

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-05 13:24 EST-0500

You could still also go with the intel pentium for about the same price, both CPU's perform about the same:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($41.34 @ Newegg)

Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280 3GB TurboDuo Video Card ($140.00 @ Newegg)

Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($21.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $359.30

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-05 13:28 EST-0500

[hak4fun]

This would play games much better than a PS4 and should last the entire current generation, you still need a harddrive and operating system if you don't already have...and peripherals and a monitor unless you hook it to a TV...ALSO there is quite a few mail-in rebates INCLUDED in the price of this build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: Asus A78M-E Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($49.98 @ OutletPC)

Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280 3GB TurboDuo Video Card ($140.00 @ Newegg)

Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($21.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $387.94

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-05 13:24 EST-0500

So this will handle most games decently, And next generation MAYBE playable? 

[i_build_nanosuits]

So this will handle most games decently, And next generation MAYBE playable?

yes...and you could also still go with the intel CPU if you prefer...both CPU's perform about the same:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($41.34 @ Newegg)

Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280 3GB TurboDuo Video Card ($140.00 @ Newegg)

Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($21.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $359.30

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-05 13:31 EST-0500

What you must be aware of is that your GPU should be at least the R9 270X...r9 280 is preferable cause it has 3GB of VRAM...also you want 8GB of RAM (2x4Gb idealy) and for CPU both the pentium and 860K are good choices for budget build and both should get worthy upgrade down the road without you requiring a new motherboard.

Intel upgrade obviously is already out as you could get a core i3, core i5 or even a core i7 as an upgrade if you find you need more processing power.

[hak4fun]

oKAY thanks alot. I really appreciate it.

[A10-FTW]

Haha kids these days...

AMD made the first consumer micro-processors i don,t see how intel could have been there waaaayyy longer than AMD like you say

Also, back in the days of the athlon CPU's AMD was totaly dominating the pentium intel had to offer...sorry but it's ture, it used to be the other way around and Advanced Micro Device was a giant back then and still is...but in a different way.

First read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Micro_Devices

Then listen to this :

I also think a good reading on intel could be useful for you as well...just so you realise how bad intel has been over the years and that only very recently on the time scale did they managed to catch up with AMD:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel

thanks for the cool memories friend  :lol: i love that video

 

Linus need do more videos like this one 

[UnbendingNose]

Why is it that in 70% of builds i have seen, they use intel CPUs. Is there a valid reason not to go for AMD? From the research i have done. You can get the same performance, and sometimes for a lower price.

Because if you're going with a high end card and gaming, you want/need an intel CPU or else be prepared for bottlenecks.

[cab11150904]

Wow why was this ever allowed to get to 3 pages? Its basically "AMD OR INTEL GUYS!!!!!!"