This stuff trustworthy

[seabass9990]

never really heard any reviews on the "team" company. any good?

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313080

[SpecTre12345]

Team Group memory is pretty good stuff, overclocks well. 

[Trik'Stari]

Team Group memory is pretty good stuff, overclocks well. 

Out of curiosity, what about Adata ram? Ive got some 1600 in my rig, been thinking about trying to push it to 1866 just for the lulz

[SpecTre12345]

Out of curiosity, what about Adata ram? Ive got some 1600 in my rig, been thinking about trying to push it to 1866 just for the lulz

 

I've seen people take the 1600MHz XPG kits to 2400MHz with Cas 11 timings, 2133MHz @ Cas 10 should be easy, and 1866 @ Cas 9 no effort. 

[Trik'Stari]

I've seen people take the 1600MHz XPG kits to 2400MHz with Cas 11 timings, 2133MHz @ Cas 10 should be easy, and 1866 @ Cas 9 no effort. 

I think XPG is what I have. It's the cheapest 1600 ADATA makes, the ones with the gold heatsinks (that I'm hoping to replace is HyperX fury red very soon because the gold just looks hideous in my build) Is there any risk of damage going from 1600 to 1866? do I need to do anything other than select 1866 instead of 1600 in the bios?

[SpecTre12345]

I think XPG is what I have. It's the cheapest 1600 ADATA makes, the ones with the gold heatsinks (that I'm hoping to replace is HyperX fury red very soon because the gold just looks hideous in my build) Is there any risk of damage going from 1600 to 1866? do I need to do anything other than select 1866 instead of 1600 in the bios?

 

Overclocking memory can be simple or easy. Sometimes you just select the frequency in the Bios and it automatically sets the timings for you (but note the Bios tends to select really loose timings[which can hinder performance]). Other times you have to set the timings manually. For 1866MHz I would just start with 10-11-10-30 to see if it's stable. If it is stable I would try dropping it down to 9-11-10-30. If you trying going down to Cas 9 you probably will have to increase your DRAM voltage. How much though is not entirely a sure thing. They are rated at 1.5v default. They probably can do 1866 @ Cas 10 at stock voltage pretty easily. I imagine @ Cas 9 though you will need anywhere from 1.55v-1.60v 

 

As far as damage goes, you won't risk damage but if it's not stable it can become a nuisance until you fine tune it. The only time you really risk damaging dimms is when you start pushing over 1.65v but that is not recommended and not necessary in any way.

[Trik'Stari]

Overclocking memory can be simple or easy. Sometimes you just select the frequency in the Bios and it automatically sets the timings for you (but note the Bios tends to select really loose timings[which can hinder performance]). Other times you have to set the timings manually. For 1866MHz I would just start with 10-11-10-30 to see if it's stable. If it is stable I would try dropping it down to 9-11-10-30. If you trying going down to Cas 9 you probably will have to increase you DRAM voltage. How much though is not entirely a sure thing. They are rated at 1.5v default. They probably can do 1866 @ Cas 10 at stock voltage pretty easily. I imagine at Cas 9 though you will need anywhere from 1.55v-1.60v 

 

As far as damage goes, you won't risk damage but if it's not stable it can become a nuisance until you fine tune it. The only time you really risk damaging dimms is when you start pushing over 1.65v but that is not recommended and not necessary in any way.

Set....stuff and test with memtest 86 I take it? I probably won't try this until I find a thorough and complete guide on the Gigabyte z97 bios (which I have yet to find, that isn't overclocking a 4790k but a 4690k instead, pisses me off that the mobo manual does't come with a guide to the bios).

 

I don't mess around with it because:

a. I have NO IDEA what half of the shit in it is

b, Can't afford to fuck something up. Need this PC for school

[SpecTre12345]

Set....stuff and test with memtest 86 I take it? I probably won't try this until I find a thorough and complete guide on the Gigabyte z97 bios (which I have yet to find, that isn't overclocking a 4790k but a 4690k instead, pisses me off that the mobo manual does't come with a guide to the bios).

 

I don't mess around with it because:

a. I have NO IDEA what half of the shit in it is

b, Can't afford to fuck something up. Need this PC for school

 

Yeah change the settings, test with memtest for a few passes. You can even do a regular CPU stress test (like Linpack LinX) it will find errors that way too.  As far as an overclocking guide goes, here's a Z97 overclocking guide specifically for Gigabyte boards: http://www.overclock.net/t/1490835/the-gigabyte-z97x-overclocking-guide (with a memory overclocking section)

 

You can't really learn something unless someone teaches you or you teach yourself. A lot of that understanding comes from reading and taking the time to read. I imagine if you are a student then you should have no problem reading literature on your hobby. As far as memory overclocking goes, I've never heard of anyone really fucking it up to the point where it becomes catastrophic. At most it becomes unstable, which can be fixed typically with timings or voltages. 

[Trik'Stari]

Yeah change the settings, test with memtest for a few passes. You can even do a regular CPU stress test (like Linpack LinX) it will find errors that way too.  As far as an overclocking guide goes, here's a Z97 overclocking guide specifically for Gigabyte boards: http://www.overclock.net/t/1490835/the-gigabyte-z97x-overclocking-guide (with a memory overclocking section)

 

You can't really learn something unless someone teaches you or you teach yourself. A lot of that understanding comes from reading and taking the time to read. I imagine if you are a student then you should have no problem reading literature on your hobby. As far as memory overclocking goes, I've never heard of anyone really fucking it up to the point where it becomes catastrophic. At most it becomes unstable, which can be fixed typically with timings or voltages. 

The issue is that I haven't found anything as in depth as I desire, with illustrations that are accurate to my bios. Every guide I've looked at, the bios has different options than mine for no real reason that I can detect.

[SpecTre12345]

The issue is that I haven't found anything as in depth as I desire, with illustrations that are accurate to my bios. Every guide I've looked at, the bios has different options than mine for no real reason that I can detect.

 

I'm pretty sure the UEFI Gigabyte uses should be similar on all their Z97 boards, it might not be exact to your preferences but if you read the literature available I'm sure you can make your own educated guesses. I imagine the guides that are available like the one I posted above isn't that far off from your Gaming 5. Even then a lot of this stuff comes from trial and error. Like most things in this world, you have to be confident in your actions and computers is one of those things that you really have to be confident in to tackle. You can't always be afraid to attempt something with computers or you will never learn. I'm not saying don't know your limits, but at the same time you won't know how to go above your limits unless you attempt to break at least some of them.

[Trik'Stari]

I'm pretty sure the UEFI Gigabyte uses should be similar on all their Z97 boards, it might not be exact to your preferences but if you read the literature available I'm sure you can make your own educated guesses. I imagine the guides that are available like the one I posted above isn't that far off from your Gaming 5. Even then a lot of this stuff comes from trial and error. Like most things in this world, you have to be confident in your actions and computers is one of those things that you really have to be confident in to tackle. You can't always be afraid to attempt something with computers or you will never learn. I'm not saying don't know your limits, but at the same time you won't know how to go above your limits unless you attempt to break at least some of them.

True. I've actually read that guide before, it's somewhat different from my own (it wouldn't be if I hadn't returned my z97 SOC force board because I needed the money lol). I do have an accidental damage warranty (add on warranty that you pay extra for) for both my cpu and motherboard, worth it to just say fuck it and go for a 4.5ghz overclock?

 

I bought the z97 SOC force board before buying a cpu, returned it because I needed the money, ended up losing my job and using my last paycheck to get this cpu and mobo

 

Might get that board again if I can find a new job, it was absolute quality, I could tell just by looking at it that it was built well.

[SpecTre12345]

True. I've actually read that guide before, it's somewhat different from my own (it wouldn't be if I hadn't returned my z97 SOC force board because I needed the money lol). I do have an accidental damage warranty (add on warranty that you pay extra for) for both my cpu and motherboard, worth it to just say fuck it and go for a 4.5ghz overclock?

 

I bought the z97 SOC force board before buying a cpu, returned it because I needed the money, ended up losing my job and using my last paycheck to get this cpu and mobo

 

Might get that board again if I can find a new job, it was absolute quality, I could tell just by looking at it that it was built well.

 

Well you have the warranty, so why not? I can give you a guide for a 4.4GHz overclock that is very simple to follow and understand. 

 

As far as swapping out boards I wouldn't bother, just a waste of money at that point. The Gaming 5 will be more than enough to give you a nice stable overclock. I'm sure the board was quality but I don't think what you have is too far off from a quality component either. Gigabyte makes quality stuff. Sorry to hear about your job loss, but that's life, when life happens it happens.

 

Here's the 4.4GHz overclock guide:

 

 

 

 

First things to change in the Bios. Make sure you are on your newest bios before overclocking. 

1. Set "All Core" CPU Multiplier to 44X

2. Set CPU cache Multiplier also called the Ring bus multiplier to 35

3. Set Fixed CPU Vcore to 1.25 -1.30v

4. Set CPU Cache Voltage also could be called Ring Bus voltage to 1.20v -1.25vv

5. Set Vrin also called "CPU Input Voltage" To 1.9v - 2.1v

DO NOT and i repeat DO NOT mix up the "Cpu Voltage" and the "CPU Input Voltage". One is for the CPU and the other for the On Die VRM's. 

Save and reboot into windows. 

Use your favorite Stress tool. I used IBT on High and monitor temps with Realtemp or some other monitoring program.

Run it for 10 Runs or 20 or whoever you feel comfortable with. I run it for 10 usually. If it doesn't blue screen you after the 5th run you could assume you're stable. Again run it for as many times as you want. Get through 10 or 20 runs and no crash? Congratulations you're stable and you can fine tune. 

 

 

 

 

 

Some extra's. Some bios' will add in a little offset voltage for both the CPU and Cache. Mine was .8 for the CPU and .4 for the Cache. If that happens put the lowest setting you can. Not "Auto" but .01 for each. My ASRock board did but i don't know if yours will.

 

 

Hope that helps speed along your overclocking ventures.