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Thanks, Megazero.

My budget is currently really dead set at 1100EUR (student) with attempt to push it as close to 1000 as possible. My financial situation will change in near future (1-1,5y) => this is why my logic was to find good case, PSU and MB and work around them.

 

Looking at proposed changes:

 

Disagree with:

- GPU: I think the spike in price (+100EUR) is rather unreasonable for my needs - plan on upgrading it in ~ 2 years (agree with estimated price - GTX 970 is 265GBP atm = 337 EUR intraEU);

- CPU: too low gainings for the 20% price increase;

This will be the two components I am looking at upgrading when the time comes, thus saving a bit here.

Agree with:

- SSD: had no previous experience with picking a SSD, found some comparisons supporting your choice;

- RAM and HDD: have no idea of difference, currently using a WD I am more than happy with;

 

Questions:

- Why the change in MB - any reason to prefer one over the other? Was also aiming for MSI but decided to go with the M.2 SSD socket for future upgrades and the ASRock having higher shared memory to partially compenate for slower GPU.

- Any reason to choose the Corsair PSU? Initially aimed for it, but: 1) There's one reported case of it not fitting well with the casing and 2) there is some negative feedback about it's noise. No need for modularity as case has good cable management options.

- Any reason for the cooler besides overall price decrease?

If so for GPU you might want to change to AMD R9 270, it's about the same price or so with the 760 but perform abit better. The 970 is pretty much the upgrade that will let you keep it for 3-4 years, so I still recommend going with that instead of a 760.

For CPU, the gain may not seem much but the 4690k is unlocked, meaning you can overclock it. even if you dont plan to OC now, later on around 3-4 years later when it start being slow compare to newer CPU, you can OC it quit a bit and gain a few more months/year out of it life time.

SSD I choose a 120GB one because of the budget limit, just install the OS on it and very few program on it, you will see a whole better world :P

Ram is pretty much same, I dont change it from your build but from a prebuild set that I have so that's why it's there. Same reason for HDD.

For your questions:

-Yes. ASRock in general as not a popular choice, I have heard quite some people having issue here and there with it, cant remember what right now though. The G45 from MSI is very cheap while being a very good mobo which all the feature you needed, and it look cool too :P As for M.2 socket... if you already have 1 SSD installing through sata port you wont change to a M.2 anytime soon, I guarantee it. Also that one is still not popular for now. If you still want it then I think the gaming 3 or 5 have it isnt it?

-No particular reason for the PSU there, also same reason why the Ram and HDD is different from your choice.

-The 212 EVO is generally accepted as one of the best cheapest air CPU cooler, so it's also my default choice for building

 

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Hey guys,

 

Been lurking on and off for some time now and finally decided to try and compile the build below. As this is my first build I most probably have missed a key dependency between parts (especially on MB side). Only thing I notice until now is that a Firewire port will be left unused on the case. Any reasoned suggestions for change/improvement are highly anticipated.

 

PS Will I need thermal paste (although supposedly the CPU comes with some)?

 

1. Budget & Location
Germany, 1100.00 EUR upper ceiling (stretching it from 1000 initially)
2. Aim
Plan on using it for gaming, software development, data analysis (SPSS and Excel). Want to have an easy time upgrading in future.

3. Monitors
Two in the future, at least 1080+
4. Peripherals
No

5. Why are you upgrading?
My netbook, although doing surpisingly well, just doesn't cut it anymore and mostly limits me.

6. Notes

I will not be OC'ing. Prefer Intel and nvidia chips. Option for future SLI prefered.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€177.36 @ Home of Hardware DE)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright HR-02 Rev.A(BW) 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler  (€42.61 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97X Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€128.89 @ Home of Hardware DE)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€86.33 @ Home of Hardware DE)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€64.70 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€51.14 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  (€235.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case  (€90.05 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Cooler Master i600 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€80.48 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer  (€18.11 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  (€69.90 @ Home of Hardware DE)
Total: €1045.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-20 18:20 CEST+0200

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Hey guys,

 

Been lurking on and off for some time now and finally decided to try and compile the build below. As this is my first build I most probably have missed a key dependency between parts (especially on MB side). Only thing I notice until now is that a Firewire port will be left unused on the case. Any reasoned suggestions for change/improvement are highly anticipated.

 

PS Will I need thermal paste (although supposedly the CPU comes with some)?

 

1. Budget & Location

Germany, 1100.00 EUR upper ceiling (stretching it from 1000 initially)

2. Aim

Plan on using it for gaming, software development, data analysis (SPSS and Excel). Want to have an easy time upgrading in future.

3. Monitors

Two in the future, at least 1080+

4. Peripherals

No

5. Why are you upgrading?

My netbook, although doing surpisingly well, just doesn't cut it anymore and mostly limits me.

6. Notes

I will not be OC'ing. Prefer Intel and nvidia chips. Option for future SLI prefered.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€177.36 @ Home of Hardware DE)

CPU Cooler: Thermalright HR-02 Rev.A(BW) 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler  (€42.61 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97X Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€128.89 @ Home of Hardware DE)

Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€86.33 @ Home of Hardware DE)

Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€64.70 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€51.14 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  (€235.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case  (€90.05 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Power Supply: Cooler Master i600 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€80.48 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer  (€18.11 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  (€69.90 @ Home of Hardware DE)

Total: €1045.47

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-20 18:20 CEST+0200

Over budget a bit but with much better GPU and better CPU :3

 

 
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€215.91 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€33.25 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€125.14 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€80.49 @ Hardwareversand) 
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€69.90 @ Caseking) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€54.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Video Card  (€330.00) 
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case  (€90.05 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  (€69.90 @ Home of Hardware DE) 
Total: €1134.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-20 19:01 CEST+0200

Also the 970 technically isnt available for your country yet I suppose, but it should be very soon, so wait for it, it perform nearly as good as the 780 while being only 330 USD, so it should convert to around 330EUR as well (given the crazy tax and all, 1 USD somehow converted to 1EUR)

My rig: Intel Core i7 4790k | MSI Z97 PC Mate | GSKILL Ripjaws X 16GB 1866MHz | ADATA Premier SP550 480GB SSD | Seagate Barracuda 3TB | Seagate Barracuda 2TB  | MSI Gaming X GTX 1070 | Thermaltake Versa N21 | Corsair CX550M Semi Modular PSU | AOC G2460PF 144Hz | Logitech G502 | GSKILL Ripjaws KM780  | GAMDIAS HEPHAESTUS V2  PCPartPicker | Old Build Log | New Build Log

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Over budget a bit but with much better GPU and better CPU :3

 

 
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€215.91 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€33.25 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€125.14 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€80.49 @ Hardwareversand) 
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€69.90 @ Caseking) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€54.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Video Card  (€330.00) 
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case  (€90.05 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  (€69.90 @ Home of Hardware DE) 
Total: €1134.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-20 19:01 CEST+0200

Also the 970 technically isnt available for your country yet I suppose, but it should be very soon, so wait for it, it perform nearly as good as the 780 while being only 330 USD, so it should convert to around 330EUR as well (given the crazy tax and all, 1 USD somehow converted to 1EUR)

 

 

 

 

Thanks, Megazero.

My budget is currently really dead set at 1100EUR (student) with attempt to push it as close to 1000 as possible. My financial situation will change in near future (1-1,5y) => this is why my logic was to find good case, PSU and MB and work around them.

 

Looking at proposed changes:

 

Disagree with:

- GPU: I think the spike in price (+100EUR) is rather unreasonable for my needs - plan on upgrading it in ~ 2 years (agree with estimated price - GTX 970 is 265GBP atm = 337 EUR intraEU);

- CPU: too low gainings for the 20% price increase;

This will be the two components I am looking at upgrading when the time comes, thus saving a bit here.

Agree with:

- SSD: had no previous experience with picking a SSD, found some comparisons supporting your choice;

- RAM and HDD: have no idea of difference, currently using a WD I am more than happy with;

 

Questions:

- Why the change in MB - any reason to prefer one over the other? Was also aiming for MSI but decided to go with the M.2 SSD socket for future upgrades and the ASRock having higher shared memory to partially compenate for slower GPU.

- Any reason to choose the Corsair PSU? Initially aimed for it, but: 1) There's one reported case of it not fitting well with the casing and 2) there is some negative feedback about it's noise. No need for modularity as case has good cable management options.

- Any reason for the cooler besides overall price decrease?

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Thanks, Megazero.

My budget is currently really dead set at 1100EUR (student) with attempt to push it as close to 1000 as possible. My financial situation will change in near future (1-1,5y) => this is why my logic was to find good case, PSU and MB and work around them.

 

Looking at proposed changes:

 

Disagree with:

- GPU: I think the spike in price (+100EUR) is rather unreasonable for my needs - plan on upgrading it in ~ 2 years (agree with estimated price - GTX 970 is 265GBP atm = 337 EUR intraEU);

- CPU: too low gainings for the 20% price increase;

This will be the two components I am looking at upgrading when the time comes, thus saving a bit here.

Agree with:

- SSD: had no previous experience with picking a SSD, found some comparisons supporting your choice;

- RAM and HDD: have no idea of difference, currently using a WD I am more than happy with;

 

Questions:

- Why the change in MB - any reason to prefer one over the other? Was also aiming for MSI but decided to go with the M.2 SSD socket for future upgrades and the ASRock having higher shared memory to partially compenate for slower GPU.

- Any reason to choose the Corsair PSU? Initially aimed for it, but: 1) There's one reported case of it not fitting well with the casing and 2) there is some negative feedback about it's noise. No need for modularity as case has good cable management options.

- Any reason for the cooler besides overall price decrease?

If so for GPU you might want to change to AMD R9 270, it's about the same price or so with the 760 but perform abit better. The 970 is pretty much the upgrade that will let you keep it for 3-4 years, so I still recommend going with that instead of a 760.

For CPU, the gain may not seem much but the 4690k is unlocked, meaning you can overclock it. even if you dont plan to OC now, later on around 3-4 years later when it start being slow compare to newer CPU, you can OC it quit a bit and gain a few more months/year out of it life time.

SSD I choose a 120GB one because of the budget limit, just install the OS on it and very few program on it, you will see a whole better world :P

Ram is pretty much same, I dont change it from your build but from a prebuild set that I have so that's why it's there. Same reason for HDD.

For your questions:

-Yes. ASRock in general as not a popular choice, I have heard quite some people having issue here and there with it, cant remember what right now though. The G45 from MSI is very cheap while being a very good mobo which all the feature you needed, and it look cool too :P As for M.2 socket... if you already have 1 SSD installing through sata port you wont change to a M.2 anytime soon, I guarantee it. Also that one is still not popular for now. If you still want it then I think the gaming 3 or 5 have it isnt it?

-No particular reason for the PSU there, also same reason why the Ram and HDD is different from your choice.

-The 212 EVO is generally accepted as one of the best cheapest air CPU cooler, so it's also my default choice for building

 

My rig: Intel Core i7 4790k | MSI Z97 PC Mate | GSKILL Ripjaws X 16GB 1866MHz | ADATA Premier SP550 480GB SSD | Seagate Barracuda 3TB | Seagate Barracuda 2TB  | MSI Gaming X GTX 1070 | Thermaltake Versa N21 | Corsair CX550M Semi Modular PSU | AOC G2460PF 144Hz | Logitech G502 | GSKILL Ripjaws KM780  | GAMDIAS HEPHAESTUS V2  PCPartPicker | Old Build Log | New Build Log

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