Worse performance after GPU upgrade

[specialistHUN]

Hey!

I have a huge problem:

I've just upgraded my GPU but I'm getting worse performance in games like Battlefield 3 and World Of Tanks...while in CoD:Ghosts I got better performance.

I've used a HD5750 for almost 5 years and now I've replaced it with a GTX 650ti BOOST. I've deleted every driver and downloaded the newest Nvidia one.

I used GeForce Experience to optimize my games. At Call Of Duty Ghosts it cranked up the settings from low/med to high and it works perfectly with 40FPS.

At Battlefield 3 and World Of Tanks it optimized them to ultra settings and ingame it's just unplayable. At WoT I set it to medium/high settings and it works nice with 30FPS. But Battlefield 3 just became unplayable. I get 18 average FPS at the "optimized" ultra settings and 23 at lowest settings. With the old GPU I could play on High/Medium settings with 40FPS now it's just unplayable. I was checking the temp it seemed normal 60-70 for the GPU and 60 for the CPU.
What can be the problem?

Spec: 
Mobo: Asrock M3A790GXH/128M
CPU: AMD Phenom II X2 555 unlocked to X4
CPU Cooler: Alpine 64 Pro Rev. 2
RAM: 6GB DDR 3 1600MHz 
HDD: 500GB WDC WD5000AAKS-00A7B2

PSU: FPS Hexa 500
GPU: Inno3D Geforce GTX 650Ti Boost 2GB

I know the other parts are bit old,I'm planning to upgrade the rest a bit later (probably 8GB RAM,i3 4160)...

So what is the problem? Is the PSU too weak or CPU bottlenecks the GPU? If yes then why only in BF3?
 

[Forcebreaker]

Try canceling "optimizations"

[SovietOnion]

Only thing i could think of is defective GPU or a CPU Bottleneck

[Swndlr]

i mean although its an "upgrade" the 650ti its kinda loses is horses in games today :c

[Patyo]

What resolution are you playing at?

[AlwaysFSX]

Only thing i could think of is defective GPU or a CPU Bottleneck

Nah, the GPU is just slow. It can't max games.

[specialistHUN]

Only thing i could think of is defective GPU or a CPU Bottleneck

But if it's defective then why do I get improvements in other games?

 

i mean although its an "upgrade" the 650ti its kinda loses is horses in games today :c

Well that's what I could get for my money...even an R9 270 would have been to expensive.

[specialistHUN]

What resolution are you playing at?

 

1366x768

[YeroJero]

Some games are "optimized" differently for the PC by developers *cough*ubisoft*cough* so when it comes to the low end or even mid tier hardware it's not as simple as "upgrade = instant performance increase". I would recommend keying in settings manually until you find your sweet spot depending on whether you want your games to look good or run at 60fps. I personally prioritize the latter.

[SovietOnion]

Nah, the GPU is just slow. It can't max games.

 Worse than a 5750? It should be on par or even better than the HD 7770 or 7790. 

[Swndlr]

But if it's defective then why do I get improvements in other games?

 

Well that's what I could get for my money...even an R9 270 would have been to expensive.

then what does that tell you to do... *saveeeeeeee*

[AlwaysFSX]

 Worse than a 5750? It should be on par or even better than the HD 7770 or 7790. 

It is, I had a 7770, I know how bad it performs.

 

 

Well that's what I could get for my money...even an R9 270 would have been to expensive.

Save longer next time?

[seiny]

No offense but it looks like you swapped an old potato for a new one

[Patyo]

i mean although its an "upgrade" the 650ti its kinda loses is horses in games today :c

  

Nah, the GPU is just slow. It can't max games.

  

Some games are "optimized" differently for the PC by developers *cough*ubisoft*cough* so when it comes to the low end or even mid tier hardware it's not as simple as "upgrade = instant performance increase". I would recommend keying in settings manually until you find your sweet spot depending on whether you want your games to look good or run at 60fps. I personally prioritize the latter.

  

No offense but it looks like you swapped an old potato for a new one

Guys, hes playing at 1366 x 768, a 650ti boost should be able to push 60fps on battlefield 3 at that resolution, even at max settings.

[Swndlr]

      

Guys, hes playing at 1366 x 768, a 650ti boost should be able to push 60fps on battlefield 3 at that resolution, even at max settings.

welp, guess not...

[specialistHUN]

To be honest...I'm 16 years old and the only money I could get was during summer. I could barely find some jobs to get some extra money. I still couldn't get enough so my parents told me that they'll pay the rest for X-Mas.

Well I wanted to go for an i5 and R9 270X combo because it seemed a really nice decision. But my parents told me that it will be too expensive...then i5 and gtx 750ti...still too expensive...they told me a low price and I've been spending hours of research and benchmark tests and comparisons etc. and as I saw the GTX 650ti Boost seemed a nice low budget upgrade...it's not the best but it seemed better than my current one...

I didn't want anything fancy just some upgrade for this 5-3 years old PC because I was struggling running any new game...

Maybe it was a bad decision...maybe I should have waited an other year (but that would make no sense using a PC for a year then going to uni where I can bring  a desktop)...

Still...I just want to know what's the problem. Is the game not optimized for the GPU...the CPU bottlenecks it???

[Patyo]

welp, guess not...

Then wy are they gett ing 41 min 49 adverage at 1080p with max settings? http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/03/26/nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-boost-2gb-review/3

Please dont bash peoples choices just because you have a better system, this guy has a legitamnet problem his card is not performing as it should.

[Swndlr]

Then wy are they gett ing 41 min 49 adverage at 1080p with max settings? http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/03/26/nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-boost-2gb-review/3

Please dont bash peoples choices just because you have a better system, this guy has a legitamnet problem his card is not performing as it should.

well the universal solution to a broken product is an rma. so dont say im bashing someones choice when the dude just swapped out an old, weak card for another old and weak card...

[YeroJero]

Then wy are they gett ing 41 min 49 adverage at 1080p with max settings? http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/03/26/nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-boost-2gb-review/3

Please dont bash peoples choices just because you have a better system, this guy has a legitamnet problem his card is not performing as it should.

 

Their test bench is using a 3570k @ 4.2ghz and 8gb of 2400mhz ram.

They literally have 0 bottlenecks on that 650ti.

[Patyo]

Their test bench is using a 3570k @ 4.2ghz and 8gb of 2400mhz ram.

They literally have 0 bottlenecks on that 650ti.

That's what I was reffering to, it's likely that the card is bottlenecked by something not just 'the card just sucks' try diabiling the 2 cores you enabled to make it a quad core.

[specialistHUN]

Is it possible that with an i3 4160 and MSI H97 Gaming 3 it will be better?

[Patyo]

Is it possible that with an i3 4160 and MSI H97 Gaming 3 it will be better?

I would try updating the bios before that but it might be necessary.

[Patyo]

Also try to download something like msi afterburner, look at gpu clock speed, utilization, heat and all that jaz while playing those games.

[toggleguy]

I have a 660 in my system right now.... i can max BF3 out at 60fps and i know that the 650ti boost isnt far behind the 660. There must be a bottleneck somewhere.

[specialistHUN]

Also try to download something like msi afterburner, look at gpu clock speed, utilization, heat and all that jaz while playing those games.

I was using AIDA64 for that. I get 324MHz base clock speed when browsing and 1130 when playing. After 3 hours of playing I normally get 70°C GPU and 65°C CPU...but I'll try the Afterburner.