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Hi, so I'm considering to invest some of my hard earned cash in a mac laptop. What I'm wondering is, how much memory should I get? Since Apple started with this stupid soldering thing you can't really get more memory once you've decided on 8/16 GB. On my desktop pc I'm easily eating up that memory, but this is where I game and I won't be doing any gaming on the laptop.

 

So what do you guys and gals think?

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Hi, so I'm considering to invest some of my hard earned cash in a mac laptop. What I'm wondering is, how much memory should I get? Since Apple started with this stupid soldering thing you can't really get more memory once you've decided on 8/16 GB. On my desktop pc I'm easily eating up that memory, but this is where I game and I won't be doing any gaming on the laptop.

 

So what do you guys and gals think?

 

They just realised, that most people buying MBP won't upgrade the memory anyway and the slot takes away space (which most thin notebooks lack anyway).

 

I think 8GB is enough for most workloads in OS X. If you want to do a lot of video editing or work with huge files in photoshop 16GB would be nicer, but not necessary.

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They just realised, that most people buying MBP won't upgrade the memory anyway and the slot takes away space (which most thin notebooks lack anyway).

 

I think 8GB is enough for most workloads in OS X. If you want to do a lot of video editing or work with huge files in photoshop 16GB would be nicer, but not necessary.

I don't do any kind of photo/video editing though it is nice to have that capability

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Hi, so I'm considering to invest some of my hard earned cash in a mac laptop. What I'm wondering is, how much memory should I get? Since Apple started with this stupid soldering thing you can't really get more memory once you've decided on 8/16 GB. On my desktop pc I'm easily eating up that memory, but this is where I game and I won't be doing any gaming on the laptop.

 

So what do you guys and gals think?

 

Why would you do this? Did you have a funny turn?

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So typical schoolwork multi-tabs in browser and so on, won't eat up 8 GB anytime fast or?

 

Why would you do this? Did you have a funny turn?

 

I do a lot of photo editing with my hackintosh, which "only" has 8GB of RAM ...

I never had the felling that 8GB wouldn't be enough and I should upgrade.

 

Do you wan't to get the 13" or 15" model?

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I do a lot of photo editing with my hackintosh, which "only" has 8GB of RAM ...

I never had the felling that 8GB wouldn't be enough and I should upgrade.

 

Do you wan't to get the 13" or 15" model?

 

My comment was not directed at the amount of RAM OP is after, it was directed at the fact that OP is considering Apple.... even typing the word is ick.

 

8GB is not enough IMO. 16GB is mediocre especially if one uses multiple VMs, RAM Disks and caches (though one would usually centralise VMs to a hypervisor server). So 16GB >

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Depends on what you do. I have 8GB and have no issues with a lot of tabs, light video editing etc.

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My comment was not directed at the amount of RAM OP is after, it was directed at the fact that OP is considering Apple.... even typing the word is ick.

 

8GB is not enough IMO. 16GB is mediocre especially if one uses multiple VMs, RAM Disks and caches (though one would usually centralise VMs to a hypervisor server). So 16GB >

Well you missed the point entirely, at no point have I mentioned running any VM's I wouldn't really do that on a laptop anyway, that's what I got my desktop for. You're also evidently biased against Apple, I'm guessing you haven't even touched any of their products much less used any of them.

 

I do a lot of photo editing with my hackintosh, which "only" has 8GB of RAM ...

I never had the felling that 8GB wouldn't be enough and I should upgrade.

 

Do you wan't to get the 13" or 15" model?

I was thinking of the 13" model, I'm getting it because it's super easy to carry around and takes up little space on the desk. Besides I've got a lot of family members who use one and had it for years still works like a charm. I'm not being hard on windows here, but they kind of deteriorate after a couple of years, and yes I could probably just pop a ssd in my old laptop and it'll be fast and nice again. Problem is I want a semi powerfull laptop that won't let me down for years, and the MBPs seems to be the ones to do it :)

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Well you missed the point entirely, at no point have I mentioned running any VM's I wouldn't really do that on a laptop anyway, that's what I got my desktop for. You're also evidently biased against Apple, I'm guessing you haven't even touched any of their products much less used any of them.

 

I don't see how I missed the point, I gave you some more use cases to consider. You are right though, I do indeed hold some bias against Apple. There are many other threads regarding the reasoning and going into it here would only serve to digress.

 

However when ones assumes to formulate guesses without conducting sufficient research beforehand one has to be prepared to be wrong as you are with yours. I write a great deal of multi platform software, iOS and OS X form a large part of this work. Objective C and Swift are among the many languages I am proficient in. Therefore I have utilized just about every Apple device on the market. While I hold a personal doctrine that does not permit me to dislike a given language, I can form a dislike towards the platform/s.

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I don't see how I missed the point, I gave you some more use cases to consider. You are right though, I do indeed hold some bias against Apple. There are many other threads regarding the reasoning and going into it here would only serve to digress.

 

However when ones assumes to formulate guesses without conducting sufficient research beforehand one has to be prepared to be wrong as you are with yours. I write a great deal of multi platform software, iOS and OS X form a large part of this work. Objective C and Swift are among the many languages I am proficient in. Therefore I have utilized just about every Apple device on the market. While I hold a personal doctrine that does not permit me to dislike a given language, I can form a dislike towards the platform/s.

And the reason why you dislike all Apple products is? I know it's a really locked down platform where you don't get to do everything that you want. I have almost no experience with software development and so throwing out "objective C and swift" tells me almost next to nothing (I've only had limited experience with C++).

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And the reason why you dislike all Apple products is? I know it's a really locked down platform where you don't get to do everything that you want. I have almost no experience with software development and so throwing out "objective C and swift" tells me almost next to nothing (I've only had limited experience with C++).

 

Well if you researched it a little bit you'd quickly see that any meaningful development is essentially restricted to their own devices. This means that if one want's to produce apps for iPhone, OS X and the like then they must own an apple platform/s to accomplish this. I am further irritated by the way that, as a developer, one must go through a lengthy code signing process often involving certificate key chains when doing so. We can contrast this with Android; plug a device in, deploy code/app to it... done. I'm not even going to mention the distribution process!

 

Objective C and Swift are Apple's propriety languages. Objective C can be thought of as more or less of a superset of C++ and C. Swift is something new entirely and attempts to relate more to languages such as C# and Java in some ways. One can (and I have done) make a polyglot; that is to say one can mix C, C++, Objective C and Swift in the same code base. Which is especially useful when one is dealing with a common cross platform core written in C/C++. The same can be done with Java using JNI but can prove to be less eloquent in some ways.

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Well if you researched it a little bit you'd quickly see that any meaningful development is essentially restricted to their own devices. This means that if one want's to produce apps for iPhone, OS X and the like then they must own an apple platform/s to accomplish this. I am further irritated by the way that, as a developer, one must go through a lengthy code signing process often involving certificate key chains when doing so. We can contrast this with Android; plug a device in, deploy code/app to it... done. I'm not even going to mention the distribution process!

 

Objective C and Swift are Apple's propriety languages. Objective C can be thought of as more or less of a superset of C++ and C. Swift is something new entirely and attempts to relate more to languages such as C# and Java in some ways. One can (and I have done) make a polyglot; that is to say one can mix C, C++, Objective C and Swift in the same code base. Which is especially useful when one is dealing with a common cross platform core written in C/C++. The same can be done with Java using JNI but can prove to be less eloquent in some ways.

I know it's an annoying process to develop for, but it still dosen't make the products bad does it?

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I know it's an annoying process to develop for, but it still dosen't make the products bad does it?

 

Ultimately it's going to be subjective. Just think of the kittens though...  :o

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