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Does anyone know where I can (maybe buy a new) PC? But it does not have to be new. It can be slightly used. My budget now is about 500-700 US Dollars. I do not want to buy from Ebay so keep that in mind. I want to buy it cheap because I only want to play DayZ, the new upcoming Rust, Survive the Nights etc...Any ideas?

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Build one for that price. You could easily get what you want for that budget.

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With that budget you can buy a pc that can max out Dayz and any other game (maybe not crysis)

My PC

[ I5 4690k (no oc) - Gigabyte Z97 D3H - 8GB Ram - Sapphire R9 280X Vapor-X ]

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Build one for that price. You could easily get what you want for that budget.

Ok what specs do you recommend? 

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Ok what specs do you recommend? 

I don't know anything about AMD so I'll let someone else make a list. I don't know much about budget oriented parts.

PC: 4770K @ 4.0 GHz --- Maximus VI Hero --- 8 GB 2133 MHz Corsair Vengeance Pro --- EVGA 780 TI Classified @ 1300 MHz --- Samsung Evo 250 GB --- Corsair RM 750 --- Corsair Carbide Air 540 --- CM Storm Rapid-I (MX Blues with PMK Evergreen Keycaps) --- Windows XP --- Razer Naga --- Custom Loop Parts: 380I, EKWB 780 Classy Waterblock and Backplate, 240mm and 360mm XT45, Swiftech MCP655, EKWB multi option reservoir, Mayhems Pastel Red, Primochill Primoflex Advanced Clear Tubing, 5 SP 120 Quiet Editions --- Mobile: Surface Pro 3 (i5 128gb) with JD40 (MX Clears) and Microsoft Sculpt Mouse --- Galaxy S6

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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kD2st6

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($214.99 @ NCIX US) 

Motherboard: MSI H97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($88.99 @ Mac Mall) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($73.98 @ OutletPC) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($50.40 @ Amazon) 

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card  ($239.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($37.99 @ Micro Center) 

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $736.33

 

This is slightly over, and not the best but will play DayZ and your other chosen games well. It does not include an OS but go to g2a.com which is cheap. Feel free to make any amendments, I will not be able to respond for a while though.

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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WHhzhM

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WHhzhM/by_merchant/

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($232.97 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($101.98 @ Newegg) 

Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($68.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($61.99 @ Amazon) 

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $705.90

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-27 15:29 EDT-0400

 

day-z is cpu intensive, so good to have an overclockable chip so you can push the performance. R9 270x still one of the best for 1080p, 720p 

My Little Gaming Rig:

CPU: FX 8320 | MOBO: Gigabyte 970A-D3P | RAM: G.Skill Ares 2x4GB | GPU: Sapphire Dual-X R9 270X | Storage: Seagate SSHD 1TB | Case: Corsair 200R | PSU: CM 550W V-Series

Upgrades to come: CPU FAN: Corsair H100i | RAM: 2 more 4GB sticks | GPU: Another R9 270X running in crossfire | Storage: Samsung 120GB SSD | PSU: Corsair 800w

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What are you going to be doing with it? If you really don't want to build a PC buy one that meets most of your expectations, then modify the parts that don't.

 

The two PC PartPicker links above are good for all around use, but are very up or downgradeable

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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WHhzhM
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WHhzhM/by_merchant/
 
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($232.97 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($101.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($68.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($61.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $705.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-27 15:29 EDT-0400
 
day-z is cpu intensive, so good to have an overclockable chip so you can push the performance. R9 270x still one of the best for 1080p, 720p 

 

Would this one be just as good and max out DayZ over Nxl8's build?

Now, you know what you can expect from these barbarians. They are a race of rabid BASTARDS that will fight us tooth and nail! But they don't know what they're up against. Cyrodiil, is CIVILIZATION! Cyrodiil, is ORDER! Cyrodiil is POWER! And out here, WE. ARE. CYRODIIL. 

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http://austinnotduncan.com/builds/meson/

 

Austin Evans did a build for around this price point recently.

 

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB ITX Video Card  ($247.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 110 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $738.92

 

This build is slightly updated/different/more expensive than his but still uses the same principles and is what I would buy.

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Would this one be just as good and max out DayZ over Nxl8's build?

The graphics card isn't as good, but you would be able to overclock the CPU, but it is Haswell not Devil's Canyon. If you wanted to overclock I would suggest a Devil's Canyon CPU; it has better temps.

Also, as that build has no CPU cooler it would not overclock far on stock cooler.

 

http://austinnotduncan.com/builds/meson/

 

Austin Evans did a build for around this price point recently.

 

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($114.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($87.99 @ NCIX US)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($72.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB ITX Video Card  ($247.98 @ Newegg)

Case: Cooler Master Elite 110 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Mwave)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $738.92

 

This build is slightly updated/different/more expensive than his but still uses the same principles and is what I would buy.

That is a pretty good build, but at this price point I would prioritise CPU and GPU over an SSD, especially when playing games.

 

OP if you don't want to go with an AMD card you could go for the EVGA GTX 760 ACX http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp42763kr It has all the Nvidia "features" but it will unlikely be as powerful.

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That is a pretty good build, but at this price point I would prioritise CPU and GPU over an SSD, especially when playing games.

 

OP if you don't want to go with an AMD card you could go for the EVGA GTX 760 ACX http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp42763kr It has all the Nvidia "features" but it will unlikely be as powerful.

So how would you edit Austin Evans' build? 

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So how would you edit Austin Evans' build? 

go with a 1tb WD Black instead of the Samsung 840 evo

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http://austinnotduncan.com/builds/meson/

 

Austin Evans did a build for around this price point recently.

 

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($114.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($87.99 @ NCIX US)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($72.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB ITX Video Card  ($247.98 @ Newegg)

Case: Cooler Master Elite 110 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Mwave)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $738.92

 

This build is slightly updated/different/more expensive than his but still uses the same principles and is what I would buy.

pcpartpicker says that the 760 won't fit in the selected case...

Now, you know what you can expect from these barbarians. They are a race of rabid BASTARDS that will fight us tooth and nail! But they don't know what they're up against. Cyrodiil, is CIVILIZATION! Cyrodiil, is ORDER! Cyrodiil is POWER! And out here, WE. ARE. CYRODIIL. 

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So how would you edit Austin Evans' build?

Mini itx leaves little room to expand and little choice with a lot of things, BUT if you wanted to go with that build style get that 1TB Seagate barracuda I first mentioned. The GTX 760 mentioned is a special mini itx version so it should fit.

The problems with that build though is you are paying more for things you don't need to.

On a budget the CPU and GPU are most important, then the PSU, then case, then the mobo then other parts. That i3 will most likely be fine for now but it is expected games will be utilising more cores soon.

I would recommend also, to add to my original build, a wifi card if you plan to use it as that mobo I chose has not got built in wifi.

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Mini itx leaves little room to expand and little choice with a lot of things, BUT if you wanted to go with that build style get that 1TB Seagate barracuda I first mentioned. The GTX 760 mentioned is a special mini itx version so it should fit.

The problems with that build though is you are paying more for things you don't need to.

On a budget the CPU and GPU are most important, then the PSU, then case, then the mobo then other parts. That i3 will most likely be fine for now but it is expected games will be utilising more cores soon.

I would recommend also, to add to my original build, a wifi card if you plan to use it as that mobo I chose has not got built in wifi.

See this is why I hate trying to build them myself. At first you think that you've got everything you need for a good cheap price and will hold up for a good amount of time. Next thing you know, I need to add something or something is overpriced or some other little component that I don't understand needs to have a specific part in it. 

Tell you what. Can you take this http://pcpartpicker.com/p/q7GZ99 and make changes to it for me so that everything seems reasonable (price wise) and (part wise)?

Now, you know what you can expect from these barbarians. They are a race of rabid BASTARDS that will fight us tooth and nail! But they don't know what they're up against. Cyrodiil, is CIVILIZATION! Cyrodiil, is ORDER! Cyrodiil is POWER! And out here, WE. ARE. CYRODIIL. 

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See this is why I hate trying to build them myself. At first you think that you've got everything you need for a good cheap price and will hold up for a good amount of time. Next thing you know, I need to add something or something is overpriced or some other little component that I don't understand needs to have a specific part in it.

Tell you what. Can you take this http://pcpartpicker.com/p/q7GZ99 and make changes to it for me so that everything seems reasonable (price wise) and (part wise)?

Well if your budget includes a monitor and mouse then that is probably the best you can do for the money. If not I will come up with something.

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Well if your budget includes a monitor and mouse then that is probably the best you can do for the money. If not I will come up with something.

So what I have is good? I don't need any little extras like fans?

Now, you know what you can expect from these barbarians. They are a race of rabid BASTARDS that will fight us tooth and nail! But they don't know what they're up against. Cyrodiil, is CIVILIZATION! Cyrodiil, is ORDER! Cyrodiil is POWER! And out here, WE. ARE. CYRODIIL. 

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So what I have is good? I don't need any little extras like fans?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9FYD7P

I just changed the PSU to non modular to save you some money.

The only thing you may need to add now is a wireless card if you are not using ethernet. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/tp-link-wireless-network-card-tlwn722n is the one I would go for if you need it.

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I HIGHLY recommend buying 2 side fans. Left side intake, right side exhaust. I recommend either of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608028

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608028

I would see what your temps are like first as you are over budget. If you think the temps are too high get new fans; I don't think it is worth it yet.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9FYD7P

I just changed the PSU to non modular to save you some money.

The only thing you may need to add now is a wireless card if you are not using ethernet. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/tp-link-wireless-network-card-tlwn722n is the one I would go for if you need it.

I didn't know I had to have a wireless card sticking out of the thing. I guess its not like my MacBook and connects to wifi regardless. But yes, I usually do everything over wifi. And what you said about the fans, you don't think the computer will get that hot? Oh and can you explain the purpose of thermal paste and if I need it on this thing?

Now, you know what you can expect from these barbarians. They are a race of rabid BASTARDS that will fight us tooth and nail! But they don't know what they're up against. Cyrodiil, is CIVILIZATION! Cyrodiil, is ORDER! Cyrodiil is POWER! And out here, WE. ARE. CYRODIIL. 

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I didn't know I had to have a wireless card sticking out of the thing. I guess its not like my MacBook and connects to wifi regardless. But yes, I usually do everything over wifi. And what you said about the fans, you don't think the computer will get that hot? Oh and can you explain the purpose of thermal paste and if I need it on this thing?

I doubt the computer will get very hot but CPU/GPU goes above recommend temps then buy more fans. Temps will be on intel ark and GPU manufacturers website.

The stock heatsink has thermal paste pre-applied so don't worry about that. If you intend to put an aftermarket cooler on at any point then there are plenty of guides on YouTube etc that can explain thermal paste better than I can with text.

EDIT: I am afraid I cannot respond to any more of your queries as I have to sleep; it is midnight in the UK.

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I doubt the computer will get very hot but CPU/GPU goes above recommend temps then buy more fans. Temps will be on intel ark and GPU manufacturers website.

The stock heatsink has thermal paste pre-applied so don't worry about that. If you intend to put an aftermarket cooler on at any point then there are plenty of guides on YouTube etc that can explain thermal paste better than I can with text.

Thanks for your help man. This is my first time building a gaming pc. Quite honestly I have no idea what I'm doing. If I buy soon, I will probably get some friends to help assemble it. I feel that towards the end of this year when *maybe DayZ is better optimized it may run a little better on this machine. Matter of fact, here is a video of some guy with just a standard 750 running DayZ just fine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRXCe-JjCaM

I'm also looking into the new Rust coming out but I don't know about its specs yet...

Now, you know what you can expect from these barbarians. They are a race of rabid BASTARDS that will fight us tooth and nail! But they don't know what they're up against. Cyrodiil, is CIVILIZATION! Cyrodiil, is ORDER! Cyrodiil is POWER! And out here, WE. ARE. CYRODIIL. 

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