Metro Last Light Crashing...

[LIGISTX]

I recently popped an "old" GTX 460 into my machine for Metro Physx, and it seems to be working great! Had a few issues getting it to work with my PCI lanes, but now it is all solved and is running a x8 with no issues. Problem is, Metro seems to love to crash on me, and for some reason when it recovers my PhysX card is no longer being utilized by the game.

 

I am running Nvidia beta drivers (the Metro beta driver, 320.14). This obviously could be part of my issue, but I was wondering if anyone else has experienced issues with this game, PhysX related or otherwise. I am not at all sure if the issues are caused by having a PhysX card, or if it is just a coincidence that after my game recovers the driver just kinda decided to recover without my PhysX card being used.

[yassarikhan786]

Having a card solely for PhysX is known to be detrimental to performance. I don't have any personal experience with using a dedicated PhysX card, but have you checked your performance with and without the 460? Does the 460 provide any noticeable performance increase?

[LIGISTX]

I don't think its a performance thing. I have run some tests and yes I have seen gains in performance from the dedicated card, the issue is crashing.

 

After midterms I will have some time and I can test with and without the dedicated card, just for peoples general knowledge of how much it helps/hurts performance. 

[HemiPhenom955]

Having a card solely for PhysX is known to be detrimental to performance. I don't have any personal experience with using a dedicated PhysX card, but have you checked your performance with and without the 460? Does the 460 provide any noticeable performance increase?

I beg to differ,, i have the 680 with the 460 for physX running on the 314.22 driver Just Fine. And Adding performance as well.

 

It very well could be the BETA driver isnt working with the 460.

[Chivpcgamer]

Beta drivers are more reknowned for cocking up than anything else : )

[yassarikhan786]

I beg to differ,, i have the 680 with the 460 for physX running on the 314.22 driver Just Fine. And Adding performance as well.

 

It very well could be the BETA driver isnt working with the 460.

 

Fair enough. I was just going off what I've read in the past.

[GamerDude]

I beg to differ,, i have the 680 with the 460 for physX running on the 314.22 driver Just Fine. And Adding performance as well.

 

It very well could be the BETA driver isnt working with the 460.

Before getting a 2nd GTX670, I was running an MSI GTX670 OC Ed + GTX560 Ti combo, performance was not to my expectation......seemed I got better performance just doing PhysX off the GTX670 itself. I asked around, was basically told that a Fermi for PhysX would slow down a high end Kepler. I was like, "You sure about it?", Anyway, removed the GTX560 Ti and ran PhysX off the single GTX670 and was surprised that performace was better......I was taken aback by it. Perhaps drivers then was not up to scratch, I can't say, but the concensus then was that it wasn't a good idea to mix Kepler and Fermi in this manner. Now, running 2x GTX670 with the 2nd doing PhysX as well, it isn't an issue anymore.

 

BTW, let me clarify something, the 2nd card was NOT for PhysX, I wanted to do S3D gaming on my Zamlman ZM-M240W, so obviously a 2nd card would help a lot. PhysX is over-rated imo, adds some enhanced visuals which I can easily do w/o.....and in most games that has hardware/GPU PhysX, I'd disable it in the first place.. Only time I use PhysX is to run benchmark with and w/o PhysX.....like the Metro 2033 benchmark which, btw, resulted in a 2-3fps difference with and w/o PhysX, it doesn't add performance in my experience.. Obviously, it is not the rig in my sig, it's my 2nd rig - FX8350/Asus CVF/16GB RAM/2x GTX670 SLI/64bit Win7 Pro SP1.

 

I've read posts about Metro LL and it seems the 320.14 Beta driver may have issues with the game. On my paty, I have the 320.00 installed and the game runs just fine. I was tempted to try the 320.14, but after reading about the issues some have, and the driver I have right now seems to be fine with Metro LL, I've decided to leave well enough alone.

[HemiPhenom955]

Before getting a 2nd GTX670, I was running an MSI GTX670 OC Ed + GTX560 Ti combo, performance was not to my expectation......seemed I got better performance just doing PhysX off the GTX670 itself. I asked around, was basically told that a Fermi for PhysX would slow down a high end Kepler. I was like, "You sure about it?", Anyway, removed the GTX560 Ti and ran PhysX off the single GTX670 and was surprised that performace was better......I was taken aback by it. Perhaps drivers then was not up to scratch, I can't say, but the concensus then was that it wasn't a good idea to mix Kepler and Fermi in this manner. Now, running 2x GTX670 with the 2nd doing PhysX as well, it isn't an issue anymore.

BTW, let me clarify something, the 2nd card was NOT for PhysX, I wanted to do S3D gaming on my Zamlman ZM-M240W, so obviously a 2nd card would help a lot. PhysX is over-rated imo, adds some enhanced visuals which I can easily do w/o.....and in most games that has hardware/GPU PhysX, I'd disable it in the first place.. Only time I use PhysX is to run benchmark with and w/o PhysX.....like the Metro 2033 benchmark. Obviously, it is not the rig in my sig, it's my 2nd rig - FX8350/Asus CVF/16GB RAM/2x GTX670 SLI/64bit Win7 Pro SP1.

I've read posts about Metro LL and it seems the 320.14 Beta driver may have issues with the game. On my paty, I have the 320.00 installed and the game runs just fine. I was tempted to try the 320.14, but after reading about the issues some have, and the driver I have right now seems to be fine with Metro LL, I've decided to leave well enough alone.

Understood,,

Outside of doing "Linus Like" spread sheets and all that jazz, in the Heaven and Vally Benches i saw a Modest increas, ~125 overall points,, with the "Canned" benches, i.e. Metro 2033, Mafia II,, 3DMark Vantage, I saw an average of ~ 100 points,,

Granted its not HUGE,, but it is an improvement. When the 320 Driver is off BETA all this might change.

[LIGISTX]

Before getting a 2nd GTX670, I was running an MSI GTX670 OC Ed + GTX560 Ti combo, performance was not to my expectation......seemed I got better performance just doing PhysX off the GTX670 itself. I asked around, was basically told that a Fermi for PhysX would slow down a high end Kepler. I was like, "You sure about it?", Anyway, removed the GTX560 Ti and ran PhysX off the single GTX670 and was surprised that performace was better......I was taken aback by it. Perhaps drivers then was not up to scratch, I can't say, but the concensus then was that it wasn't a good idea to mix Kepler and Fermi in this manner. Now, running 2x GTX670 with the 2nd doing PhysX as well, it isn't an issue anymore.

 

BTW, let me clarify something, the 2nd card was NOT for PhysX, I wanted to do S3D gaming on my Zamlman ZM-M240W, so obviously a 2nd card would help a lot. PhysX is over-rated imo, adds some enhanced visuals which I can easily do w/o.....and in most games that has hardware/GPU PhysX, I'd disable it in the first place.. Only time I use PhysX is to run benchmark with and w/o PhysX.....like the Metro 2033 benchmark which, btw, resulted in a 2-3fps difference with and w/o PhysX, it doesn't add performance in my experience.. Obviously, it is not the rig in my sig, it's my 2nd rig - FX8350/Asus CVF/16GB RAM/2x GTX670 SLI/64bit Win7 Pro SP1.

 

I've read posts about Metro LL and it seems the 320.14 Beta driver may have issues with the game. On my paty, I have the 320.00 installed and the game runs just fine. I was tempted to try the 320.14, but after reading about the issues some have, and the driver I have right now seems to be fine with Metro LL, I've decided to leave well enough alone.

Interesting that the cards didn't play well together. But I figure a GTX 470 and 460 should play decently well. I will revert back to non beta 320 and see if my issues go away. But I also do notice my physX card gets to about 15-20% GPU usage and 300-350 mem usage, so it has to be taking some strain off my 470... Granted my 470 is overclocked like mad and just more powerfull overall, 15% of a 460 has to be a decent reduction in load.

[GamerDude]

What? I don't think Heaven and Valley has PhysX....you sure? From my understanding of PhysX, you won't see an improvement with it enabled vs w/o PhysX. There should be a drop, mild drop but drop nonetheless, with PhysX enabled, like the Metro 2033 benchmark I'd mentioned.....I've not heard of it improving framerate ingame vs w/o PhysX, it doesn't jell. Any link to show this to be true?

[GamerDude]

Interesting that the cards didn't play well together. But I figure a GTX 470 and 460 should play decently well. I will revert back to non beta 320 and see if my issues go away. But I also do notice my physX card gets to about 15-20% GPU usage and 300-350 mem usage, so it has to be taking some strain off my 470... Granted my 470 is overclocked like mad and just more powerfull overall, 15% of a 460 has to be a decent reduction in load.

You have a GTX470 + GTX460 (PhysX), so I don't see the issue here, it's prolly due to the driver as I've read peeps complaining about bad performance, crashes and such over at guru3d. I'm on 320.00 and Last Light is running just fine, heck, I must have lucked out. Metro LL is also running fine on my main rig in sig. I can even play it @5760x1200 with no SSAA and Advanced PhysX,,,,,everything else On or maxed out, pretty smooth gameplay actually. The GPU gods are kind to me I guess.....

[HemiPhenom955]

What? I don't think Heaven and Valley has PhysX....you sure? From my understanding of PhysX, you won't see an improvement with it enabled vs w/o PhysX. There should be a drop, mild drop but drop nonetheless, with PhysX enabled, like the Metro 2033 benchmark I'd mentioned.....I've not heard of it improving framerate ingame vs w/o PhysX, it doesn't jell. Any link to show this to be true?

PhysX is, ~in my understanding~ an Atribute that puts "Fluid Motion" in Water,, Cloth ,,,Grasses,, Smoke,, and texures,, PhysX Helps in Tesselation as well.

 

Please, i dont claime to know it all,, if i am wrong, Correct me.

[LIGISTX]

You have a GTX470 + GTX460 (PhysX), so I don't see the issue here, it's prolly due to the driver as I've read peeps complaining about bad performance, crashes and such over at guru3d. I'm on 320.00 and Last Light is running just fine, heck, I must have lucked out. Metro LL is also running fine on my main rig in sig. I can even play it @5760x1200 with no SSAA and Advanced PhysX,,,,,everything else On or maxed out, pretty smooth gameplay actually. The GPU gods are kind to me I guess.....

I just tried 320.00 and it still crashed out and stopped using my PhysX card when it got back into the game. Kinda annoying. Not too sure whats up.