first build need help

[Wackojacko]

Hello all,

I am planning to build a pc in the future, mainly for gaming, this is my first build and I'm not yet that we'll known around pc parts and all, so I was hoping you could help me a bit, I would like to build a full tower, I would also like a lot of upgradeability in it, although at first I just want to be able to play current games hoping to max out some of them, I would like to spend between 600 - 800 euros at first (I live in the Netherlands) but any components that are in total that price in your region and dollars is also fine just want some ideas, I can get 1 120g ssd and a 1tb hdd out of my laptop.

Please help me with ideas for parts

For between 600-800 euros/dollars

Any help would be appreciated

Thanks!

(Sorry for the double post have a new phone )

[Megazero]

800 Eur is about 1100USD right? so...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.00 @ Amazon)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($148.99 @ Mac Mall)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($319.99 @ Amazon)

Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $880.93

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-08 11:58 EDT-0400)

My advice: wait for a few weeks so the 4690k come out and change the CPU to that, also it's far from the 1100 USD price point because I dont know about tax and stuff, so if you can change it to a GTX 780 or R9 290x it will be great, if not then this is fine.

And you said you already have storage, so I dont included it.

[Shd0w2]

800 Eur is about 1100USD right? so...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.00 @ Amazon)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($148.99 @ Mac Mall)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($319.99 @ Amazon)

Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $880.93

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-08 11:58 EDT-0400)

My advice: wait for a few weeks so the 4690k come out and change the CPU to that, also it's far from the 1100 USD price point because I dont know about tax and stuff, so if you can change it to a GTX 780 or R9 290x it will be great, if not then this is fine.

And you said you already have storage, so I dont included it.

Try using UK.PCPARTPICKER.COM

Prices are vastly different.

[Silver Knight]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€169.63 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard:  MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€87.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory:  Kingston HyperX Grey 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€68.98 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card:  XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card  (€269.90 @ Caseking)
Case:  Thermaltake Overseer RX-I ATX Full Tower Case  (€104.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply:  XFX XTR 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€70.06 @ Hardwareversand)
Total: €771.36
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-08 18:03 CEST+0200)

 

Try this. I used PCPartPicker for Germany because it's very close to Netherlands

 

I used the cheapest full tower, and it looks quite cool

 

Also, i put here a h87 mobo, but you should go with something like 4590 and h97, if you can find them cheap that is

[Shd0w2]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£152.99 @ Aria PC) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master GeminII M4 58.4 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£36.82 @ Amazon UK) 

Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£90.29 @ Dabs) 

Memory:  Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£56.83 @ Amazon UK) 

Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  (£228.92 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Case:  Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case  (£35.46 @ CCL Computers) 

Total: £601.31

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-08 17:06 BST+0100)

 

Can't overclock, but has nice features.

[Shd0w2]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€169.63 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Motherboard:  MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€87.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Memory:  Kingston HyperX Grey 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€68.98 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Video Card:  XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card  (€269.90 @ Caseking)

Case:  Thermaltake Overseer RX-I ATX Full Tower Case  (€104.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Power Supply:  XFX XTR 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€70.06 @ Hardwareversand)

Total: €771.36

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-08 18:03 CEST+0200)

 

Try this. I used PCPartPicker for Germany because it's very close to Netherlands

 

I used the cheapest full tower, and it looks quite cool

 

Also, i put here a h87 mobo, but you should go with something like 4590 and h97, if you can find them cheap that is

+1 I second this build.

[Megazero]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£152.99 @ Aria PC) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master GeminII M4 58.4 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£36.82 @ Amazon UK) 

Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£90.29 @ Dabs) 

Memory:  Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£56.83 @ Amazon UK) 

Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  (£228.92 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Case:  Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case  (£35.46 @ CCL Computers) 

Total: £601.31

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-08 17:06 BST+0100)

 

Can't overclock, but has nice features.

I hope you know that GBP and EUR is different~

Either way, I know that tax and stuff will make the price sky rocket, so I keep it down to 800USD.

[Shd0w2]

I hope you know that GBP and EUR is different~

Either way, I know that tax and stuff will make the price sky rocket, so I keep it down to 800USD.

I know its different, 600 pounds is 800euros.. about, its more like 739 euros.

Yours is also above budget at 660 pounds which is more than 800 euros.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£152.99 @ Aria PC) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£25.24 @ CCL Computers) 

Motherboard:  MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£105.13 @ CCL Computers) 

Memory:  Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£59.76 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  (£228.92 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Case:  Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£47.28 @ CCL Computers) 

Power Supply:  Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£49.93 @ Amazon UK) 

Total: £669.25

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-08 17:09 BST+0100)

[Megazero]

I know its different, 600 pounds is 800euros.. about, its more like 739 euros.

Yours is also above budget at 660 pounds which is more than 800 euros.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£152.99 @ Aria PC) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£25.24 @ CCL Computers) 

Motherboard:  MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£105.13 @ CCL Computers) 

Memory:  Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£59.76 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  (£228.92 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Case:  Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£47.28 @ CCL Computers) 

Power Supply:  Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£49.93 @ Amazon UK) 

Total: £669.25

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-08 17:09 BST+0100)

You converted 2 times so... Anyway I cant check the price of these in EUR since PCPartPicker of country that use EUR dont have MSI stuff, which I know their real store have since I have build some for ppl over there before, so it just a suggestion.

[Wackojacko]

That gigabyte is a mini atx?font i get more upgrade options with standard atx?

[Wackojacko]

I have an MSI laptop now which I really like but it's well not old but I just want to go desktop so like the mid suggestions

[Megazero]

That gigabyte is a mini atx?font i get more upgrade options with standard atx?

Hmm... not really, depend on the board. Some ATX dont support SLI?Crossfire and even have less Sata compare to MATX. But usually ppl choose MATX or ITX for small build/case. So it's you to you whether you like your computer mid-big size or a really small one.

[Wackojacko]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (€169.63 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Motherboard: MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€87.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Memory: Kingston HyperX Grey 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€68.98 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card (€269.90 @ Caseking)

Case: Thermaltake Overseer RX-I ATX Full Tower Case (€104.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Power Supply: XFX XTR 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€70.06 @ Hardwareversand)

Total: €771.36

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-08 18:03 CEST+0200)

Try this. I used PCPartPicker for Germany because it's very close to Netherlands

I used the cheapest full tower, and it looks quite cool

Also, i put here a h87 mobo, but you should go with something like 4590 and h97, if you can find them cheap that is

Really liking this one, that case is very nice indeed and prices are in euros so probably closest what I will find here.

Thanks!

[Wackojacko]

Hmm... not really, depend on the board. Some ATX dont support SLI?Crossfire and even have less Sata compare to MATX. But usually ppl choose MATX or ITX for small build/case. So it's you to you whether you like your computer mid-big size or a really small one.

I'd want a big size not a small one so

[Silver Knight]

Really liking this one, that case is very nice indeed and prices are in euros so probably closest what I will find here.

Thanks!

Yeah, Germany is rather close to Netherlands, and like i said, try looking into h97 boards

 

That rig should play all the latest games on very high settings on 1080p

[Wackojacko]

Thanks for all the super fast reactions have a bit of ideas now soo

[Wackojacko]

Yeah, Germany is rather close to Netherlands, and like i said, try looking into h97 boards

That rig should play all the latest games on very high settings on 1080p

No

Msi h97 board right? And cool that's exactly what I wanted!awesome

[Wackojacko]

And for like other intensive programs? Like designing and modelling do I need an whole other setup for that?

[Wackojacko]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (€169.63 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Motherboard: MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€87.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Memory: Kingston HyperX Grey 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€68.98 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card (€269.90 @ Caseking)

Case: Thermaltake Overseer RX-I ATX Full Tower Case (€104.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Power Supply: XFX XTR 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€70.06 @ Hardwareversand)

Total: €771.36

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-08 18:03 CEST+0200)

Try this. I used PCPartPicker for Germany because it's very close to Netherlands

I used the cheapest full tower, and it looks quite cool

Also, i put here a h87 mobo, but you should go with something like 4590 and h97, if you can find them cheap that is

But isn't it better to get a single 8gb memory stick for later upgrades?

[Silver Knight]

But isn't it better to get a single 8gb memory stick for later upgrades?

It's better to go dual-channel, it's more stable that way. And that Mobo has 4 RAM slots, so if you go with 2x4Gb dual-channel now, and later you can add more

 

If i was you, i'd stretch my budget and go with 2x8 Gb dual channel

 

And yes, this build should be good for design and modeling, but not the best Of course, it won't be able to do some heavy design and modeling, but for moderate use it should be okay

[Wackojacko]

It's better to go dual-channel, it's more stable that way. And that Mobo has 4 RAM slots, so if you go with 2x4Gb dual-channel now, and later you can add more

If i was you, i'd stretch my budget and go with 2x8 Gb dual channel

And yes, this build should be good for design and modeling, but not the best Of course, it won't be able to do some heavy design and modeling, but for moderate use it should be okay

And if I would go dual 8gb what do you recommend?

[Megazero]

And if I would go dual 8gb what do you recommend?

yes if you plan to go 16GB then 1 8GB stick now and 1 later on is ok.

[Wackojacko]

Yeah, Germany is rather close to Netherlands, and like i said, try looking into h97 boards

That rig should play all the latest games on very high settings on 1080p

I checked all the prices around here and if I got a i5 4590 cpu and h97 mobo my total would be 811 euros

[Silver Knight]

I checked all the prices around here and if I got a i5 4590 cpu and h97 mobo my total would be 811 euros

And if you got 4570 and a h97 mobo, how much would that be, because if the prices are the same, go with 5690, but if 4590 is more expensive, then go with 4570, the difference isn't that big

[Wackojacko]

And if you got 4570 and a h97 mobo, how much would that be, because if the prices are the same, go with 5690, but if 4590 is more expensive, then go with 4570, the difference isn't that big

The shop where I checked the 4570 is more expensive 4570 = 172 4590 = 170