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Budget (including currency): 2000 euro

Country: Italy

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: All types of games: from lol to hunt showdown, ark survival ascended. Also programming games and computer multitasking. 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

The pc is for a friend of mine but i'm going to build it with him since i've some experience. He already has a monitor that is fhd 180hz but he  wants to reserve the possibility for a future upgrade with a 2k monitor.

I've already wrote down a possible build for him but i'd like another opinion from someone who knows more than me.

 

CASE: Lian Li Lancool 3 (He likes this one but if you have some suggestion in the same form factor and price range they are well accepted)

CPU: Ryzen 7 9800x3d

CPU COOLER: THERMALRIGHT AQUA ELITE 360 V3

MB: Asus TUF Gaming B850-E wifi

RAM: Lexar THOR Z 32gb ddr5 6000MHz cl36 (Already bought on sale at 330. I read they are good and works well and they where a cheap compromise)

GPU: XFX Swift Radeon RX 9070 XT 16gb

SSD: Lexar EQ790 2TB SSD M.2

PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower GT 850W

 

I'd like to know if there may be some improvement to make the build better, we are open to suggestion. 

Also we recently saw a lot of people buying amd cpu on aliexpress, what do you think about it? Is it a safe option and would you suggest it?

Thanks a lot for your help!

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14 minutes ago, Mid3x said:

Budget (including currency): 2000 euro

Country: Italy

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: All types of games: from lol to hunt showdown, ark survival ascended. Also programming games and computer multitasking. 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

The pc is for a friend of mine but i'm going to build it with him since i've some experience. He already has a monitor that is fhd 180hz but he  wants to reserve the possibility for a future upgrade with a 2k monitor.

I've already wrote down a possible build for him but i'd like another opinion from someone who knows more than me.

 

CASE: Lian Li Lancool 3 (He likes this one but if you have some suggestion in the same form factor and price range they are well accepted)

CPU: Ryzen 7 9800x3d

CPU COOLER: THERMALRIGHT AQUA ELITE 360 V3

MB: Asus TUF Gaming B850-E wifi

RAM: Lexar THOR Z 32gb ddr5 6000MHz cl36 (Already bought on sale at 330. I read they are good and works well and they where a cheap compromise)

GPU: XFX Swift Radeon RX 9070 XT 16gb

SSD: Lexar EQ790 2TB SSD M.2

PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower GT 850W

 

I'd like to know if there may be some improvement to make the build better, we are open to suggestion. 

Also we recently saw a lot of people buying amd cpu on aliexpress, what do you think about it? Is it a safe option and would you suggest it?

Thanks a lot for your help!

Small correction:  2k is NOT 1440p.  It is 1080p.  

 

Honestly, it seems to be a good setup of buying 2 main good items and supporting them with inexpensive yet decent parts.

 

One note, unless he just WANTS water cooling a 2 fan cpu cooler like the Peerless Assassin or similar is just as good with a 9800X3D.  They don't need a lot of cooling power.

 

Tho I would suggest putting it all in Italy pcpartpicker.com to see pricing, which is the other half to determine value.  But looks good so far.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx: Ryzen 7 7800X3D / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / ASRock Taichi 7900xtx OC / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 64GB (4x16GB) / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 1000 / EK-AIO 360 Basic w/ Silent Wings fans / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / LG - UltraGear 45" OLED QHD 240Hz / Mackie CR5BT / SteelSeries Arctis Nova Pro / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502 - https://valid.x86.fr/my9nnr

 

7800X3D - PBO +200, CO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Khaleesi: Ryzen 5 5600X3D (+200, -30) - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200CL16 - Asus Prime 9060XT 16GB - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Frozen Notte RGB 360 White V2 - NZXT H6 Flow RGB White - LG 34" 3440x1440

 

NAS/Plex/Game Server  Ryzen 9 5900XT 16c/32t - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - TeamGroup T-Force Vulcan 64GB 3200CL16 - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + TeamGroup MP44L 2TB (Game) + WD Red Plus 4TBx2 (Plex) - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE - ASUS Prime AP201 - Currently Hosting: Enshrouded x2, Hytale, Icarus, Windrose. Project Zomboid, Dune Awakening.

 

Sage: Ryzen 7 7800X3D (+200, -30) - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.2Ghz - Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360 - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

Extra parts: ASUS 6650XT - Gigabyte 1080Ti - Cooler Master Q300L - Gigabyte 450w PSU - Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 850w

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green. OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel, OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

3D Printing: 

Bambu Lab X1 Carbon, AMS, AMS2 Pro (thank you MicroCenter!)

Other Interesting Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 PHEV Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

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23 minutes ago, Mid3x said:

Also we recently saw a lot of people buying amd cpu on aliexpress, what do you think about it? Is it a safe option and would you suggest it?

For a CPU that is on the low-end, e.g. 7500F, I'd have very little concern. But, buying a 9800X3D? Not for me, mainly because of the warranty situation. Though, if the CPU was retail boxed and serviceable worldwide, from a solid seller, I suppose you could, assuming you're not going to get stung for import/sales taxes. In most countries there's a threshold at which they apply, which I'd be nearly certain a 9800X3D will exceed.

 

23 minutes ago, Mid3x said:

Also programming games and computer multitasking. 

Is this just casual usage? If not, you may want to look into the 270K Plus.

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24 minutes ago, Mid3x said:

Budget (including currency): 2000 euro

Country: Italy

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: All types of games: from lol to hunt showdown, ark survival ascended. Also programming games and computer multitasking. 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

The pc is for a friend of mine but i'm going to build it with him since i've some experience. He already has a monitor that is fhd 180hz but he  wants to reserve the possibility for a future upgrade with a 2k monitor.

I've already wrote down a possible build for him but i'd like another opinion from someone who knows more than me.

 

CASE: Lian Li Lancool 3 (He likes this one but if you have some suggestion in the same form factor and price range they are well accepted)

CPU: Ryzen 7 9800x3d

CPU COOLER: THERMALRIGHT AQUA ELITE 360 V3

MB: Asus TUF Gaming B850-E wifi

RAM: Lexar THOR Z 32gb ddr5 6000MHz cl36 (Already bought on sale at 330. I read they are good and works well and they where a cheap compromise)

GPU: XFX Swift Radeon RX 9070 XT 16gb

SSD: Lexar EQ790 2TB SSD M.2

PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower GT 850W

 

I'd like to know if there may be some improvement to make the build better, we are open to suggestion. 

Also we recently saw a lot of people buying amd cpu on aliexpress, what do you think about it? Is it a safe option and would you suggest it?

Thanks a lot for your help!

Looks like a good setup. It would have been nice to get CL32 or CL30 memory but in these times... I can't say much about that.

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2 minutes ago, KidKid said:

Looks like a good setup. It would have been nice to get CL32 or CL30 memory but in these times... I can't say much about that.

100% in a perfect world, but the nice thing is that X3D cpus are very forgiving with latency.  CL30 or CL36 impacts not at all for a 9800X3D.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx: Ryzen 7 7800X3D / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / ASRock Taichi 7900xtx OC / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 64GB (4x16GB) / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 1000 / EK-AIO 360 Basic w/ Silent Wings fans / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / LG - UltraGear 45" OLED QHD 240Hz / Mackie CR5BT / SteelSeries Arctis Nova Pro / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502 - https://valid.x86.fr/my9nnr

 

7800X3D - PBO +200, CO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Khaleesi: Ryzen 5 5600X3D (+200, -30) - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200CL16 - Asus Prime 9060XT 16GB - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Frozen Notte RGB 360 White V2 - NZXT H6 Flow RGB White - LG 34" 3440x1440

 

NAS/Plex/Game Server  Ryzen 9 5900XT 16c/32t - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - TeamGroup T-Force Vulcan 64GB 3200CL16 - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + TeamGroup MP44L 2TB (Game) + WD Red Plus 4TBx2 (Plex) - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE - ASUS Prime AP201 - Currently Hosting: Enshrouded x2, Hytale, Icarus, Windrose. Project Zomboid, Dune Awakening.

 

Sage: Ryzen 7 7800X3D (+200, -30) - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.2Ghz - Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360 - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

Extra parts: ASUS 6650XT - Gigabyte 1080Ti - Cooler Master Q300L - Gigabyte 450w PSU - Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 850w

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green. OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel, OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

3D Printing: 

Bambu Lab X1 Carbon, AMS, AMS2 Pro (thank you MicroCenter!)

Other Interesting Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 PHEV Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

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42 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Small correction:  2k is NOT 1440p.  It is 1080p.  

honestly, at this point, I think it's probably fine to just let people be wrong

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core OEM/Tray Processor  (€335.67 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool LE360 V2 75.89 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€78.40 @ PC Componentes) 
Case: *Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  (€89.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€103.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €608.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2026-03-31 20:41 CEST+0200

 

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11 minutes ago, OddOod said:

honestly, at this point, I think it's probably fine to just let people be wrong

I'm sure it is, but for some reason that bothers me.

 

Probably because it's numbers and math based, and who I am.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx: Ryzen 7 7800X3D / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / ASRock Taichi 7900xtx OC / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 64GB (4x16GB) / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 1000 / EK-AIO 360 Basic w/ Silent Wings fans / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / LG - UltraGear 45" OLED QHD 240Hz / Mackie CR5BT / SteelSeries Arctis Nova Pro / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502 - https://valid.x86.fr/my9nnr

 

7800X3D - PBO +200, CO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Khaleesi: Ryzen 5 5600X3D (+200, -30) - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200CL16 - Asus Prime 9060XT 16GB - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Frozen Notte RGB 360 White V2 - NZXT H6 Flow RGB White - LG 34" 3440x1440

 

NAS/Plex/Game Server  Ryzen 9 5900XT 16c/32t - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - TeamGroup T-Force Vulcan 64GB 3200CL16 - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + TeamGroup MP44L 2TB (Game) + WD Red Plus 4TBx2 (Plex) - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE - ASUS Prime AP201 - Currently Hosting: Enshrouded x2, Hytale, Icarus, Windrose. Project Zomboid, Dune Awakening.

 

Sage: Ryzen 7 7800X3D (+200, -30) - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.2Ghz - Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360 - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

Extra parts: ASUS 6650XT - Gigabyte 1080Ti - Cooler Master Q300L - Gigabyte 450w PSU - Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 850w

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green. OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel, OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

3D Printing: 

Bambu Lab X1 Carbon, AMS, AMS2 Pro (thank you MicroCenter!)

Other Interesting Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 PHEV Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

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33 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

I'm sure it is, but for some reason that bothers me.

 

Probably because it's numbers and math based, and who I am.

I mean, "8k" is also not 8k, it's 7.68k, it's all just bullshit marketing because "big number better"

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I agree with @dedayog. A water cooler will keep your CPU cooler by a few degrees but it doesn't impact its performance at all, unless the CPU is hitting some really high temperature like 100 C. Water coolers are far less reliable than air coolers; I would strongly recommend you to swap the water cooler out for an air cooler.

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13 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Small correction:  2k is NOT 1440p.  It is 1080p. 

Wow, I always thought they were the same thing because I've seen them used interchangeably. Thanks so much for the correction!

13 hours ago, Dedayog said:

They don't need a lot of cooling power.

Yes I know, we thought that given the small difference in cost, liquid cooling would be cooler (not like fresh cool but like "cool cool")

 

Thanks a lot  for your help!

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13 hours ago, Tetras said:

mainly because of the warranty situation

Yeah that was also my main concearn, I'll probably stick to some more reliable store.

13 hours ago, Tetras said:

Is this just casual usage?

We can say that, we are both studying computer engineering at uni but for now we don't have to do too expensive things on the hardware side. We are experimenting with game and app development and the choice of that cpu is also for a more futureproof build.

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