New PC Build

[Pkai]

Hello guys, i am planning to upgrade my very old PC (i7-6700, Gtx 1070 and 32GB DDR4 Ram) to a future proof PC. I like to get high end specs so that i don't upgrade more often. Budget is around 2,100 USD and i currently have the peripherals but i might upgrade my monitor in the near future to 2k (1440P) resolution with at least 240hz (Current monitor is 1080P with 144HZ).

 

Games that i usually play: Dota 2, CS2, sometimes i play MMORPG titles sometimes and some AAA games every now and then.  

 

Planning to upgrade to:

 

Cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 9800x3D

Motherboard: Asus b850 max gaming Wi-Fi w 

Thermalright AM5 secure frame v2 7000 series

Cooling: Gamdias chione p5-360 liquid cooler

Ram: Patriot 16x2GB DDR5 6000MHZ CL30

Storage: WD 1TB nvme

GPU: XFX Mercury amd radeon 9070XT OC

Case: Deepcool CG580 4F mid tower ITX

PSU: Segotep GM850W gold 80+ Full modular

 

I would like to have some opinions on the build and open to any changes that would help especially regarding the PSU, cooling and case since i am not really sure about them. Please if you want to suggest any changes, then i would really appreciate it if you can pick the changes from this website: https://ezonelb.com/

 

Also, i am not really sure about the setup since it is going to be mixed regarding the colors so prolly it will not be full black or white but still considering it. 

 

Thanks a lot for your time and much appreciated. 

 

 

 

[Why_Me]

10 minutes ago, Pkai said:

Hello guys, i am planning to upgrade my very old PC (i7-6700, Gtx 1070 and 32GB DDR4 Ram) to a future proof PC. I like to get high end specs so that i don't upgrade more often. Budget is around 2,100 USD and i currently have the peripherals but i might upgrade my monitor in the near future to 2k (1440P) resolution with at least 240hz (Current monitor is 1080P with 144HZ).

 

Games that i usually play: Dota 2, CS2, sometimes i play MMORPG titles sometimes and some AAA games every now and then.  

 

Planning to upgrade to:

 

Cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 9800x3D

Motherboard: Asus b850 max gaming Wi-Fi w 

Thermalright AM5 secure frame v2 7000 series

Cooling: Gamdias chione p5-360 liquid cooler

Ram: Patriot 16x2GB DDR5 6000MHZ CL30

Storage: WD 1TB nvme

GPU: XFX Mercury amd radeon 9070XT OC

Case: Deepcool CG580 4F mid tower ITX

PSU: Segotep GM850W gold 80+ Full modular

 

I would like to have some opinions on the build and open to any changes that would help especially regarding the PSU, cooling and case since i am not really sure about them. Please if you want to suggest any changes, then i would really appreciate it if you can pick the changes from this website: https://ezonelb.com/

 

Also, i am not really sure about the setup since it is going to be mixed regarding the colors so prolly it will not be full black or white but still considering it. 

 

Thanks a lot for your time and much appreciated. 

 

That Asus board has a poor power phase design.

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/others/b850-max-gaming-wifi-w/ 

 

Better board.

https://ezonelb.com/product/gigabyte-b850-gaming-x-wifi6e-am5-atx-amd-motherboard-with-x3d-turbo-mode-ddr5-8200mt-s-oc-pcie-5-0-1222-vrm-3x-m-2-wi-fi-6e-2-5gbe-lan-hdmi-dp-usb-c-gen2x2-2/

 

Save on the cpu.

https://ezonelb.com/product/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-ryzen-7-7000-series-8-core-4-2-ghz-socket-am5-120w-amd-radeon-graphics-desktop-processor-100-100000910wof-tray/ 

 

 

[podkall]

2 minutes ago, Pkai said:

Thermalright AM5 secure frame v2 7000 series

don't need this

 

5 minutes ago, Pkai said:

PSU: Segotep GM850W gold 80+ Full modular

750W alternative PSU

https://ezonelb.com/product/msi-mag-a750gl-750w-80-plus-pcie-5-0-gold-full-modular-psu/

 

10 minutes ago, Pkai said:

Cooling: Gamdias chione p5-360 liquid cooler

Better and cheaper coolers:

 

https://ezonelb.com/product/t-peerless-assassin-120-se-argb-cpu-air-cooler/

 

https://ezonelb.com/product/arctic-liquid-freezer-iii-360-argb-cpu-aio-313/

 

 

15 minutes ago, Pkai said:

Cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 9800x3D

Motherboard: Asus b850 max gaming Wi-Fi w 

Thermalright AM5 secure frame v2 7000 series

Cooling: Gamdias chione p5-360 liquid cooler

Ram: Patriot 16x2GB DDR5 6000MHZ CL30

Storage: WD 1TB nvme

GPU: XFX Mercury amd radeon 9070XT OC

Case: Deepcool CG580 4F mid tower ITX

PSU: Segotep GM850W gold 80+ Full modular

Everything else though looks good

 

 

16 minutes ago, Pkai said:

Also, i am not really sure about the setup since it is going to be mixed regarding the colors so prolly it will not be full black or white but still considering it. 

I've seen some decent white part choices

 

https://ezonelb.com/product/deepcool-le360-wh-v2-cpu-liquid-cooler-360mm-radiator-with-frosted-pump-3x-argb-fans-anti-leak-tech-pwm-control-intel-lga1851-1700-1200-amd-am5-am4-white/

 

https://ezonelb.com/product/segotep-dm-850g-850w-digital-gold-power-supply-atx3-1-pcie5-1-ready-80plus-gold-pplp-certified-dual-core-mcu-ai-monitoring-himos-usb-blind-plug-compact-high-density-design-white/

 

https://ezonelb.com/product/deepcool-cg580-4f-wh-mid-tower-case-with-4-argb-fans-270-panoramic-glass-panels-360mm-radiator-support-usb-c-atx-compatibility-gpu-up-to-410mm-psu-210mm-7-slots-white/

 

 

3 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

That Asus board has a poor power phase design.

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/others/b850-max-gaming-wifi-w/ 

Do you need more than 8 phases? HDV-M.2 doesn't:

 

 

 

• ASUS TUF B650M-E has 8+2+1 phases (and the ATX version too)
• Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX has 8+2+1 phases

 

And this is 7950x with 1 hour Cinebench, way more demanding than gaming. And 16 cores.

[Why_Me]

7 minutes ago, podkall said:

don't need this

 

750W alternative PSU

https://ezonelb.com/product/msi-mag-a750gl-750w-80-plus-pcie-5-0-gold-full-modular-psu/

 

Better and cheaper coolers:

 

https://ezonelb.com/product/t-peerless-assassin-120-se-argb-cpu-air-cooler/

 

https://ezonelb.com/product/arctic-liquid-freezer-iii-360-argb-cpu-aio-313/

 

 

Everything else though looks good

 

 

I've seen some decent white part choices

 

https://ezonelb.com/product/deepcool-le360-wh-v2-cpu-liquid-cooler-360mm-radiator-with-frosted-pump-3x-argb-fans-anti-leak-tech-pwm-control-intel-lga1851-1700-1200-amd-am5-am4-white/

 

https://ezonelb.com/product/segotep-dm-850g-850w-digital-gold-power-supply-atx3-1-pcie5-1-ready-80plus-gold-pplp-certified-dual-core-mcu-ai-monitoring-himos-usb-blind-plug-compact-high-density-design-white/

 

https://ezonelb.com/product/deepcool-cg580-4f-wh-mid-tower-case-with-4-argb-fans-270-panoramic-glass-panels-360mm-radiator-support-usb-c-atx-compatibility-gpu-up-to-410mm-psu-210mm-7-slots-white/

 

 

Do you need more than 8 phases? HDV-M.2 doesn't:

 

 

 

• ASUS TUF B650M-E has 8+2+1 phases (and the ATX version too)
• Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX has 8+2+1 phases

 

And this is 7950x with 1 hour Cinebench, way more demanding than gaming. And 16 cores.

8+2 power phase design is meant for 65w cpu's. The OP has a $2000 budget meaning there is zero reason to recommend a board with a 8 phase design.

[podkall]

2 hours ago, Why_Me said:

8+2 power phase design is meant for 65w cpu's. The OP has a $2000 budget meaning there is zero reason to recommend a board with a 8 phase design.

Oh really, then why isn't 8+2+1 phase motherboard failing all core 100% utilization for 1 hour load test on a 16 core CPU that's 170W TDP?

 

 

 

 

Last time I checked 9800x3D is only 8 core CPU, and the OP wants to play games not to run 24 hour AI calculations. There's no reason to pay more for something you will not use. That's why I recommended cheaper coolers.

[Why_Me]

3 minutes ago, podkall said:

Oh really, then why isn't 8+2+1 phase motherboard failing all core 100% utilization for 1 hour load test on a 16 core CPU that's 170W TDP?

 

 

 

 

Last time I checked 9800x3D is only 8 core CPU, and the OP wants to play games not to run 24 hour AI calculations. There's no reason to pay more for something you will not use. That's why I recommended cheaper coolers.

It's a budget board and I know how much you love your budget boards. Meanwhile a 12 phase board or better for that cpu is what should be recommended.

[podkall]

Just now, Why_Me said:

It's a budget board and I know how much you love your budget boards. Meanwhile a 12 phase board for that cpu is what should be recommended.

why?

 

Is a 50$ hamburger with same ingredients and recipe going to taste better than 5$ hamburger?

[Why_Me]

1 hour ago, podkall said:

why?

 

Is a 50$ hamburger with same ingredients and recipe going to taste better than 5$ hamburger?

We're talking motherboards, not hamburgers. There's a noticeable difference from 12 phase to 8 phase. Budget boards belong in budget builds.

[podkall]

1 hour ago, Why_Me said:

We're talking motherboards, not hamburgers. There's a noticeable difference from 12 phase to 8 phase. Budget boards belong in budget builds.

what's the difference? apart from money? and number of phases?

[Pkai]

@podkall @Why_Me Forgive me guys but got kinda lost regarding the board, will any of the 2 boards work just fine or one will be better than the other ? Also, regarding the cooling most probably i will go for https://ezonelb.com/product/arctic-liquid-freezer-iii-360-argb-cpu-aio-313/, better option right ? And is it fine if i keep the current PSU in the build ? https://ezonelb.com/product/upply-850w-psu-pcie5-gold-80-plus-full-modular/ 

 

Thanks again!

[Why_Me]

4 hours ago, Pkai said:

@podkall @Why_Me Forgive me guys but got kinda lost regarding the board, will any of the 2 boards work just fine or one will be better than the other ? Also, regarding the cooling most probably i will go for https://ezonelb.com/product/arctic-liquid-freezer-iii-360-argb-cpu-aio-313/, better option right ? And is it fine if i keep the current PSU in the build ? https://ezonelb.com/product/upply-850w-psu-pcie5-gold-80-plus-full-modular/ 

 

Thanks again!

Good call on the AIO and psu. The Gigabyte board is preferred over that Asus board due to the VRM's.

[Pkai]

1 hour ago, Why_Me said:

Good call on the AIO and psu. The Gigabyte board is preferred over that Asus board due to the VRM's.

Thanks a lot, much appreciated 

[Pkai]

@Why_Me Is this motherboard recommended overall or is there a better option/brand that i should search for ? 

 

[podkall]

6 hours ago, Pkai said:

@podkall @Why_Me Forgive me guys but got kinda lost regarding the board, will any of the 2 boards work just fine or one will be better than the other ? Also, regarding the cooling most probably i will go for https://ezonelb.com/product/arctic-liquid-freezer-iii-360-argb-cpu-aio-313/, better option right ? And is it fine if i keep the current PSU in the build ? https://ezonelb.com/product/upply-850w-psu-pcie5-gold-80-plus-full-modular/ 

 

Thanks again!

Both boards will work fine, one board will just handle 32 core CPU better, problem is 32 core CPU on AM5 doesn't exist yet, so it's kind of a waste if you're just getting 9800x3D and want to run it for as long as the gaming industry lets you.

 

11 minutes ago, Pkai said:

@Why_Me Is this motherboard recommended overall or is there a better option/brand that i should search for ? 

 

They're both fine.

 

2 hours ago, Why_Me said:

Good call on the AIO and psu. The Gigabyte board is preferred over that Asus board due to the VRM's.

You have yet to explain why Gigabyte is "preferred" like what does that mean.

 

Are you saying ASUS board will explode after 5 years of use with 9800x3D? What's the bias towards more phases?

[Why_Me]

14 minutes ago, Pkai said:

@Why_Me Is this motherboard recommended overall or is there a better option/brand that i should search for ? 

 

That Gigabyte board with its 12 phase power design will work fine ^^

[Pkai]

4 minutes ago, podkall said:

Both boards will work fine, one board will just handle 32 core CPU better, problem is 32 core CPU on AM5 doesn't exist yet, so it's kind of a waste if you're just getting 9800x3D and want to run it for as long as the gaming industry lets you.

 

They're both fine.

 

You have yet to explain why Gigabyte is "preferred" like what does that mean.

 

Are you saying ASUS board will explode after 5 years of use with 9800x3D? What's the bias towards more phases?

Thanks again! I think everything is settled up now but not sure yet about the PSU since you mentioned another alternative. Is the  SEGOTEP GM850W PSU bad and should be avoidable ?

[podkall]

Just now, Pkai said:

Thanks again! I think everything is settled up now but not sure yet about the PSU since you mentioned another alternative. Is the  SEGOTEP GM850W PSU bad and should be avoidable ?

The Segotep PSU can work fine, because it should comply with ATX 3.0 specification, because the ad label says ATX 3.1 ready, it should at least be ATX 3.0 level if a deeper test was to be made.

 

On top of that the system won't draw nearly enough 850W to stress the PSU, which is nice headroom for multiple reasons.

 

I only mentioned MSI, because their brand is more solid and wide spread in other regions (they're usually the cheapest quality option from many other brands), so their quality has to be on point.

 

But Segotep will work, I even linked Segotep PSU for white build alternative in my first comment.

[Pkai]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

The Segotep PSU can work fine, because it should comply with ATX 3.0 specification, because the ad label says ATX 3.1 ready, it should at least be ATX 3.0 level if a deeper test was to be made.

 

On top of that the system won't draw nearly enough 850W to stress the PSU, which is nice headroom for multiple reasons.

 

I only mentioned MSI, because their brand is more solid and wide spread in other regions (they're usually the cheapest quality option from many other brands), so their quality has to be on point.

 

But Segotep will work, I even linked Segotep PSU for white build alternative in my first comment.

I see, thanks for the clarification

[podkall]

1 minute ago, Pkai said:

I see, thanks for the clarification

No problem, the biggest concern will be building the PC properly

[Pkai]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

No problem, the biggest concern will be building the PC properly

Thank God the stores here in our country do that on your behalf 

[podkall]

16 minutes ago, Pkai said:

Thank God the stores here in our country do that on your behalf 

that works too, people with experience have less chance doing mistake

[Pkai]

@podkall @Why_Me Hello guys and sorry again if i am bothering but we might be having small changes (i guess they are small). Is it fine if i get this case and this motherboard instead of the ones mentioned above, because we are having some shortage here. 

 

https://ezonelb.com/product/atlas-p2-cg-mid-tower-argb-atx-panoramic-case/

 

https://ezonelb.com/product/asus-x870-ayw-gaming-wifi-w-am5-atx-motherboard-with-1221-80a-drmos-ddr5-8000-mt-s-oc-pcie-5-0-x16-3x-m-2-wi-fi-6-usb4-40gbps-2-5gb-lan-usb-pd-3-0-aura-sync-rgb-silver/

[Why_Me]

2 minutes ago, Pkai said:

@podkall @Why_Me Hello guys and sorry again if i am bothering but we might be having small changes (i guess they are small). Is it fine if i get this case and this motherboard instead of the ones mentioned above, because we are having some shortage here. 

 

https://ezonelb.com/product/atlas-p2-cg-mid-tower-argb-atx-panoramic-case/

 

https://ezonelb.com/product/asus-x870-ayw-gaming-wifi-w-am5-atx-motherboard-with-1221-80a-drmos-ddr5-8000-mt-s-oc-pcie-5-0-x16-3x-m-2-wi-fi-6-usb4-40gbps-2-5gb-lan-usb-pd-3-0-aura-sync-rgb-silver/

That works.

[podkall]

1 hour ago, Pkai said:

@podkall @Why_Me Hello guys and sorry again if i am bothering but we might be having small changes (i guess they are small). Is it fine if i get this case and this motherboard instead of the ones mentioned above, because we are having some shortage here. 

 

https://ezonelb.com/product/atlas-p2-cg-mid-tower-argb-atx-panoramic-case/

 

https://ezonelb.com/product/asus-x870-ayw-gaming-wifi-w-am5-atx-motherboard-with-1221-80a-drmos-ddr5-8000-mt-s-oc-pcie-5-0-x16-3x-m-2-wi-fi-6-usb4-40gbps-2-5gb-lan-usb-pd-3-0-aura-sync-rgb-silver/

that works though not sure why they only have expensive motherboard as cheapest option

[Pkai]

8 minutes ago, podkall said:

that works though not sure why they only have expensive motherboard as cheapest option

Unfortunately there are expensive stuff here that outside of our country are way less priced. Also, options here are kinda limited sometimes. Also, the Gigabyte b850 gaming x motherboard is only like 5$ less but don't know which option would be better, the gigabyte b850 or the asus x870 ayw.